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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 11:58 AM
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I think it's very nice of Prince Charles
to raise another man's child as his own.

Prince Harry:





His mother's paramour, James Hewitt:





I don't see any Windsor in Harry.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 12:00 PM
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1. I know...I can't help but see the likeness...and wonder...
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 02:23 AM
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28. Somebody MUST have run a DNA test, don't you think?
The resemblance IS uncanny, at least in these photos!
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 12:01 PM
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2. I've always believed that Harry was Hewitt's sprog
I wonder if Charles realises this, or just blocks it out? :shrug:
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 02:28 AM
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29. Did she cohabit with James Hewitt at around the time Harry was --
Edited on Sun Apr-10-05 02:30 AM by Radio_Lady
conceived? I believe that any child conceived while Diana and Charles were married -- even one conceived through adultery -- would be considered Charles' child anyway. That's the law here, which must be a follow-on to British common law.

I know there have been cases where DNA tests revealed another father, and the husband has taken the wife to court -- in one case to be absolved from paying child support. Not sure how the law would view this one, however.

They referred to Prince William as "The HEIR" and Prince Harry as "The SPARE" on TV today. I thought that was really tacky! I feel sorry for any child who has lost its mother at such a tender age. If Harry were to lose the only father he has known would be a crushing blow.

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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 02:52 AM
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34. I distinctly remember right after Harry was born that Charles made some
sort of cruel comment about the boy's red hair, and how Charles shunned the boy because he looked more like Diana's side of the family??? (It was on one of those Specials about the decline of the Charles/Di marriage.) At the time I saw the Special, I just thought it was Charles' self-centered nature. But in retrospect...Harry's birth was the point at which the marriage really began disintegrating. And the red hair was possibly much more than a lack of Windsor resemblence.
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 12:01 PM
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3. The wives of Henry the Eighth
should have been so lucky.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 12:02 PM
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4. You mean Charles did the nasty with James Hewitt?!
Edited on Sat Apr-09-05 12:03 PM by HypnoToad
IT'S A MIRACLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:bounce: :woohoo: :bounce:
:bounce: :woohoo: :bounce:
:bounce: :woohoo: :bounce:
:bounce: :woohoo: :bounce:



Edit: :dunce:
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 12:03 PM
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6. huh?
where'd you get that?
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 12:03 PM
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5. I've bookmarked this thread to show my mom.
She's always thought Harry looked him, but we could never remember his to find a picture. x(
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 12:06 PM
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7. If the "Royal Family" is The Beatles, Prince Charles is Pete Best
...or, as our friends across the Great Pond might put it, a "bloody wanker," a "stupid git."



:toast:
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 12:09 PM
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8. Um, that's rather obvious, isn't it?
Edited on Sat Apr-09-05 12:10 PM by terrya
I can see the Windsor in William. He is very much a Windsor.

Not a trace of it in Harry.

Yes, it is quite gentlemanly for Charles to raise him as his own.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 12:11 PM
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10. Yes...
after seeing the wedding pics today, I'm afraid Prince William is going to pull an Andrew - gorgeous as a youth - another horse-faced Windsor as he ages.

But Harry's got looks with some staying power.
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 12:10 PM
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9. Harry looks like the Spencers.
I vaugly remember reading something about dna testing a few years back, and chuck is the dad. Poor Harry.
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 12:13 PM
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12. Even Hewitt swears that Harry cannot be his
son because he didn't meet Diana until 1986. Harry gets his red hair from the Spencers-both of Diana's sisters and her brother have it.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 12:21 PM
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14. a man swearing
a child isn't his? Unheard of!

Heheh...

sorry, I just don't see ANY Windsor resemblance in Prince Harry.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 12:22 PM
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16. Harry's all Spenser
Look at Diana's brother's baby pictures - they could be twins.

Plus, she and Hewitt didn't meet for a couple of years after Harry's birth.

A little research on the timelines, people - this old chestnut was buried years ago.
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MollyStark Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 12:59 PM
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18. And his eyes are blue
Hewitt has brown eyes while Charles and Diana both have blue.

My family has green or blue eyes on both sides for as long as we go back. All of my sisters and I married men with bown eyes and we got all brown eyed children.
While it is not impossible to have a blue eyed child between Diana and Charles, it would be very unusual.
Besides, the close set eyes and narrow bridge of the nose are pure Windsor.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 01:25 PM
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19. His profile is just like the Queen's
He has that amazing Spenser hair, too. Kid's got the hair, while his brother looks to have that deadly Windsor receding hairline any minute now.

Did you notice that William's ravishing good looks are rapidly giving way to that unfortunate Windsor mug?
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Emops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 02:32 AM
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30. "His profile is just like the Queen's" ???
Christ, that's the worst insult I've ever heard.:)
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 02:38 AM
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33. A person with a brown eyes can have a blue eyed child.
Edited on Sun Apr-10-05 02:44 AM by lizzy
The brown eye gene is dominant, the blue eye gene is recessive. So, someone who has brown eyes could carry a blue eye gene. When this person has a child with another person that carries a blue eye gene- A blue eye child can be born. It's not very unusual. You could easily calculate the odds, and they are considerable. On the other hand, it is impossible for two blue eyed people to have a brown eye child.
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MollyStark Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 03:19 PM
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40. Did you respond just to argue exactly what I said?
I said it was unlikely but not impossible. You say it is not unusual, but infact it is. I took college statistics too.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 03:23 PM
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41. I responded because it would not be unusual or unlikely.
Edited on Sun Apr-10-05 03:27 PM by lizzy
The odds of an offspring having blue eyes could be as high as 50 %.
See example 1.
http://www.athro.com/evo/gen/eyecols.html
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MollyStark Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 03:24 PM
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43. wrong
But if you would like to write out the stats I am willing to read it.

It is unusual and unlikely, but not impossible.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 03:28 PM
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44. LOL.
Edited on Sun Apr-10-05 03:30 PM by lizzy
Read the attached link. The odds could be as high as 50 %.
"Example 1
Parent 1: Brown Eyes, Genotype: bey2: Brown-blue, gey:blue-blue
Parent 2: Blue Eyes, Genotype: bey2: blue-blue, gey:blue-blue
bey2:
gey: Brown
blue Brown
blue blue
blue blue
blue
blue
blue Brown-blue
blue-blue Brown-blue
blue-blue blue-blue
blue-blue blue-blue
blue-blue
blue
blue Brown-blue
blue-blue Brown-blue
blue-blue blue-blue
blue-blue blue-blue
blue-blue
blue
blue Brown-blue
blue-blue Brown-blue
blue-blue blue-blue
blue-blue blue-blue
blue-blue
blue
blue Brown-blue
blue-blue Brown-blue
blue-blue blue-blue
blue-blue blue-blue
blue-blue

Each child has 50% probablility of brown eyes and 50% probability of blue eyes. On average, about half the children of this cross will have brown eyes and the other will have blue eyes"

http://www.athro.com/evo/gen/eyecols.html
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MollyStark Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 03:17 PM
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39. correction
What I meant to type is that it would be unlikely for blue eyed Diana to have a blue eyed child with a brown eyed Hewitt.
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 06:00 PM
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45. Unless one of his parents had blue eyes.
Both my parents had blue eyes, all of my brothers and sisters have blue eyes, and most of us married brown eyed people who had a blue eyed parent. My little brother married a blue eyed woman. All of the grandchildren have blue eyes, except Mark, who is my youngest brother's step son/adopted son/beloved child. When blue fills 3 out of four squares it dominates. Two of two, usually not.
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BelleCarolinaPeridot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 12:19 PM
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13. Of course they would say that Chuck is the dad lol .
If this was an official report it would say Chuck is the dad , because this would be an even more bigger scandal than anyone could imagine .

So did some take snippets from both Harry's and James Hewitt's hair ?I always heard jokes about someone wanting to do that .
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 02:36 AM
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31. LOL. I don't know what you remember reading, but
there was never a DNA testing done. You would be the only person in the world reading about that DNA testing, cause it simply didn't happen. They would never do it, because of the scandal it would cause.
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 02:43 PM
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35. I don't remember where I read it,
it was awhile ago. Harry is third in line, and if he isn't a Windsor, he's not in line. Personally I don't think it matters to Chuck, he just loves that kid.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 12:13 PM
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11. LOL
:spray:
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MollyStark Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 12:22 PM
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15. He looks like Diana's father
Edited on Sat Apr-09-05 01:00 PM by MollyStark
The spencer family has the red hair and Harry has the Queens profile.
In addition the whole island is inbred. They all look alike among the upper class. There must be 8 or 9 young men that look just like harry in those families. Are they all Hewitt's sons too?
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 02:56 PM
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36. I agree with you. And such speculation leads nowhere,
except to hurt feelings, specifically Harry's feelings..
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Atlas Mugged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 12:24 PM
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17. It's been obvious to me for a long time.
Nice to see someone else acknowledging it.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 01:41 PM
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20. Harry's way hotter than Wills.
Edited on Sat Apr-09-05 01:43 PM by VolcanoJen
And I think Harry, thanks to good hair genes, might just keep it all.

Wills should shave his head, a la Woody Harrelson. Now.

:hug: Hi Doofus! You're always my little love wombat! :hug:

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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 03:08 PM
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23. Hey!
Where you been, ya little sex-weasel?

Yer right, Will's startin' to lose his looks - just like a good Windsor.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 02:20 AM
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27. Will is so Windsor it hurts my sensibilities.
Always thought he was a sexy young thing, then realized he was coming into his inherent horsey looks, but could expect a year or two of decent looks. I rode it out. Neiiiiigh!!

What's up, whore-rodent?
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 02:03 PM
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21. He actually looks a good bit like the Queen
Put a pillbox and some curls around that face and it's her.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 02:06 PM
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22. I'm with you. I've seen
photos of him where he has a resemblance to Charles. Definitely a Windsor.
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 02:59 PM
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37. His smile is pure Prince Philip too
On the photo above.
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MollyStark Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 03:23 PM
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42. Look at their profiles
Except for the chin his is just like hers. He also has that thick wiry Spencer red hair. His Aunt Sarah has the same exact color.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 03:49 PM
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24. its easier to live with such things than admit it to the world
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Bullwinkle925 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 03:50 PM
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25. I've always thought so as well. Would love to know the DNA results.
:eyes:
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Jilly Beans Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 03:57 PM
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26. Yes, I've always noticed the resemblance
If Harry would have been the firstborn, I wonder if it would have been a problem, since then he would be a direct heir to the throne?

What do you think?
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 02:37 AM
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32. holy shit.
wow.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 03:01 PM
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38. These royal gene pools are so f'n close...
this is like picking potato out of a field of potatoes.

He could be the son of a horse for all I know! (or care)
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 06:03 PM
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46. He is by far the hotter brother.
Edited on Sun Apr-10-05 06:03 PM by tjdee
Too bad he seems to be hellbent on causing trouble and being..."the spare". How irritating must that be?
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