Are the concepts of "duty", "honor" & "respect" meaningful anymore?

[Coventina]

Isn't the movie Casablanca a treasured classic because we love the characters for ultimately choosing what is RIGHT to do, rather than what would personally please them?

Are those concepts, in the words of our current administration, now "quaint"?

Just wondering.

[Heidi]

1. You got an "amen" here.

Thanks for posting that, Coventina. It's a lot to think about. I try to do right, not out of fear of the consequences of doing wrong, but because I believe it's the right thing to do and I've seen how "doing right" brings me closer to other right-doing sentient beings. A lot of times this is difficult, because I'm waaaaaaaay fallible and there are other sentient beings with whom I really don't want a closer contact.

But I know how I _want_ to be: "Bushido . . . holds justice, benevolence, love, sincerity, honesty, and self-control in utmost respect."
http://mcel.pacificu.edu/as/students/bushido/bindex.html

[bleedingheart]

2. To error is human, to forgive is divine...

sometimes we do stuff because we want to please others and then we pay the price...

my hubby married the first time to his "college sweetheart"...by the time he knew that she was wrong for him...the expensive wedding was planned, the gown bought and the machinery of the wedding was running at full steam...he felt helpless and followed through with it...10 mos later he caught her sleeping with a mutual acquaintance...

The right thing to do would have been to have walked away before the wedding but I bet that he would have been painted as a cad and a jerk for leaving her....

[tjwmason]

3. They're just reinvented

Duty means shooting at anything that moves (with darkish skin).

Honour means getting pushed out of your position to save the skin of Rummy, Cheyney or Chimpy.

Respect means ignoring gross misbehaviour by the administration.

Now report to the re-education camp to learn these, and more.

**Edit to correct duff rediting on first draft.