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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 09:32 PM
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who else is in deep to the irs?
$10K. :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 09:36 PM
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1. 7 k
Edited on Mon Apr-11-05 09:38 PM by libhill
But, worked out a wage garnishment plan, paid off two back years already. Too bad I'm not rich like Willie Nelson. They'd forgive me most of it.
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 09:45 PM
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5. Taxes are the price
we pay for a civilized society. Quitch'er bitchin'.
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 09:53 PM
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6. Taxes are
Edited on Mon Apr-11-05 09:53 PM by libhill
The price working people pay, to keep them bombs an' high tech weapons rolling off the assembly lines. The rich come off smelling like a rose- particularly under a Repuke mis - Administration.
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 07:45 AM
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15. Can't have socialism
without taxes.
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 02:53 PM
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28. We don't have socialism
We have fascism -
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 10:07 PM
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12. where do i sign up?
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 07:51 AM
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16. There's taxation and there's ridiculously over complex taxation
2 very different things.

The British tax code has been moving in the American direction for a few years now Gordon Brown (the chancellor) has a phenominal mind and can actually understand it all - the problem is that nobody else can.

This just feeds the accountancy profession.
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 08:31 AM
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21. Well, elect different people
to Congress. Wait, no, that doesn't work

They all 'grow' in office. Getting fat off the workers. Dems and Repubs alike.

No matter what they tell you at voting time, they gotta feed the beast once they're in office.
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 08:35 AM
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22. Quite
but that does not make the system any less vexatious.

There's nothing wrong with complaining about a dodgy system.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 08:48 AM
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23. mine is simple
it is a deliberate plan to soak people like me. the upper middle, wage earner, no place to hide. no credit for me 3 kids, only 3/4 of my deductions allowed. i wouldn't mind, i swear, if it weren't for knowing that i am paying more than a lot of millionaires, and most oil companies.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 07:55 PM
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35. they are the price most CORPORATIONS often DO NOT PAY
ever hear of negative net effective tax?

in other words a rebate, which is what most corporations get, in addition to legislation, eminent domain, price gouging, etc.
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:58 AM
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42. Well, the
individiual consumer will pay all the corporate taxes in the end, anyway.

Still, the complication of the tax code is, in and of itself, unfair. Eminent domain for private parties is unfair.
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Mr. Flibble Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 09:38 PM
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2. How do people end up owing so much?
Always give them extra by declaring no deductions; the chances of getting something back is likely and it compels you to live within your means (unless you get a shiny, pretty credit card like I had. :dunce: )
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 09:44 PM
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4. hit a bad spot in the code.
partly under withheld, but hit the spot where deductions go away. no child credit, deductions reduced. got a bonus that was under withheld. all added up.
personally, i hate to get refunds, especially now. make them wait for that money.
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 09:57 PM
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7. Likewise -
Make too much money, didn't withhold enough, too poor to take advantage of Bushcos tax break, too well off to get any other types of deductions, that help lower income people. That translates to fucked.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 08:18 AM
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18. this phasing out deductions crap sucks
that's about half my bill. sock the middle is the name of the game.
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 03:06 PM
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31. Repukes
Edited on Tue Apr-12-05 03:10 PM by libhill
Have to hit the middle, so the rich can pay minimum taxes - that's the name of THEIR game. That's why I'd vote for -shudder- even Nader and the Greens, before I'd vote for a stinkin' Repuke.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 08:24 AM
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19. Ours went up $1,000 from last year-bad spot here too
My wife made a little more money but we don't own a home yet and the child is on the way (July) so we owe ~$2,800 this year.

I guess we aren't living the 'Murkan dream the right way.
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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 09:39 PM
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3. $1200 this year,
but I have been on a payment plan for about 9 years.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 09:59 PM
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8. I think somebody's trolling for a finder's fee!
B-)
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 10:03 PM
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9. huh?
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 10:05 PM
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10. I said, "I think somebody's trolling for a finder's fee!"
B-)
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 10:06 PM
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11. haha
i can read, i just have no idea what you are talking about.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 10:08 PM
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13. Sure you don't.
}(
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 10:10 PM
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14. do you have some reason to accuse me
of whatever the hell you are accusing me of?
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 02:54 PM
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29. No
Heh heh. B-)
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 07:53 AM
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17. Me.
But here we just call them the Inland Revenue.
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ImpeachBush Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 08:30 AM
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20. $1700
Thanks to the damned contract position I had to take after being out of work for 6 months. I'm so glad that the company decided to hire me fulltimer permanent 6 weeks earlier than I expected.

This is the FIRST time I've not gotten a federal refund. Thanks for the tax cuts, Shrub. Meathead.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 08:56 AM
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24. You're not trolling for a finder's fee, are you?
Just kidding.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 09:05 AM
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26. nah
i turned in Floogeldy, and that settled up my debt. i'm all good now.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 08:59 AM
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25. 4800 - - bite me bush
And I have a loophole hungry accountant.

To top it all off, I'm more in debt now than ever.

Christ - this year burns.

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movie_girl99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 09:13 AM
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27. we would have owed
but both bought new cars and the sales tax thing saved our butts. We broke even, didnt owe and didnt get anything back.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 02:56 PM
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30. Taxes are at the accountant right now
But it will be a chunk-o-change :cry:

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masaka___ Donating Member (181 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 03:13 PM
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32. There's always the option of war tax resitance.
You're morally justified.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 03:18 PM
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33. 30K
Royally, completely bites.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 07:52 PM
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34. ok, you win
were gonna hafta see what kind of payment plan we can get. to be honest, i am happy to keep it out of *'s hands.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:56 AM
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40. But I didn't want to win.
Hubby's company mistakenly underwithheld. How bad does that suck?
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 03:16 PM
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44. very hoover-like
at least this was our own "mistake" sorta.
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 08:01 PM
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36. OMG!
:wow:
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 08:03 PM
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37. my friend just paid $90K
Edited on Tue Apr-12-05 08:06 PM by amazona
I saw the check. But I think it means he had a very, very good year to owe that much.

P.S. In fact, I think he was trying to impress me!

The conservation movement is a breeding ground of communists
and other subversives. We intend to clean them out,
even if it means rounding up every birdwatcher in the country.
--John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-72


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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 09:04 PM
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38. i think you are right
is he a hit man for the bfee?
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 12:01 PM
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43. We just paid $2400
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 12:02 PM by China_cat
and no we are not having a very good year...in fact we are making only about 2/3 what we were making 5 years ago when we got a $1700 refund.

Oh, the $2400 is ON TOP of what was taken out in withholding taxes.

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WMliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 09:14 PM
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39. $98
:rant:

Nah, not really. I don't mind paying taxes. I'm usually able to keep it within $100 either way.
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:16 AM
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41. Just wait until they privatize collections
As I understand it, the best people have been run out, leaving the sadists, the lame, and the over-worked. Underfunded and understaffed, struggling with archaic and patched systems, the solution will be to privatize, proving yet again that big governement doesn't work and the marketplace is a miracle. Plus, it could pay for itself if we just sell the data. What a deal.
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