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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:35 PM
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Can someone explain collagen in the lips for me?
Do you find it attractive? Do you think some people take it too far?

We were watching CSI tonight and my husband, who normally never notices stuff like this, said Marg Helgenberger's upper lip was not only MUCH bigger, but lopsided, too.

Here's a website with some before and after shots. Some don't look bad, but it seems the potential for abuse and overload is high:

http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/archives/cat_bad_collagen_in_lips.html

I really don't get it. I mean, I've looked at my face and thought about this or that, but I've NEVER thought "my lips need to be fatter." :shrug:

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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:37 PM
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1. I think it's bloody stupid, personally.
And it usually looks WRONG. COnsidering when this became a trendy aesthetic procedure, one wonders how much of it is inspired by Angelina Jolie envy...heh.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:42 PM
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12. True, now that girl has some FULL lips.
But as far as I know she has always had them.

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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:43 PM
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13. Yep...
genetically lucky. And surgery never lives up to that which is bestowed by nature (just look at ANY set of fake tits).
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:49 PM
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22. Shudder....the fake boobs.....shudder.
:scared:

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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 10:18 PM
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30. I almost have Jolie lips (not too good on males)
her father bit Cosmo Kramer!
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:48 PM
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46. many black men have "Jolie lips"...
... and I really can't guess why that should be a bad thing.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:00 AM
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47. I don't really like MINE, though. Others' I don't mind (what am I saying
the surreality meter seems to be going up)
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:10 AM
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48. surreal?
I'm addressing the remark you made:
I almost have Jolie lips (not too good on males)


and disagreeing with the bit in parentheses. Nothing surreal about that.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:24 AM
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49. I was thinking of myself there
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:51 PM
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25. It was Julia Roberts that launched the whole lip thing.
I still don't get why someone wants to look like they've been punched in the mouth.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:33 PM
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44. like meg ryan
and cher....ugh. they were fine the way they were.
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Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:42 PM
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45. Maybe it's just me, but looking like a victim of domestic violence isn't
something I desire for myself or find attractive in others. :wtf:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:47 AM
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54. I thought it was Barbara Hershey? Regardless,
It is NOT attractive...
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:37 PM
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2. No, I can't explain it.
Sorry.

I guess some people REALLY want full lips. They just look fake as all hell and unattractive. Marg Helgenberger is an attractive woman who didn't need the injections, IMO.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:39 PM
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6. She IS really pretty, I agree.
I don't know why she did that.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:37 PM
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3. When I was younger
We used to call them BL** J** lips. I wrote a cool tune about them..lol.
But anyhow... they don't impress me.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:37 PM
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4. I don't think her lips got fatter,
I think the rest of her face shrank! (Based on the pictures on your linked site.)

Redstone
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:39 PM
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5. You should have seen her on CSI.
It was really obvious. Especially for the normally oblivious Mr. Bouncy to notice.

AND I think she has lost a bit of weight. So maybe it's both. But the right side of her upper lip was noticeably bigger than the left side. It was weird. And she had 'em all glossed up and greasy looking too.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:39 PM
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7. Half of the Women I've seen with Collagen Injections in the lips...
...remind me of Rainbow Trout.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:43 PM
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15. What? I've never seen a rainbow trout with lips,
fat or otherwise.

Redstone
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:47 PM
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19. Ok..A Rainbow Trout with Fat Lips.......In fact..
..a Rainbow trout that had has her lips injected with collagen.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 10:48 PM
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37. OK, now I gotcha.
Redstone
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:53 AM
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55. Sure..Haven't you ever heard of a Trout going to the...
...Plastic Surgeons Of-fish.

Hey..It's the best I can come up with this early in the morning.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:13 AM
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58. Aaaargh. Not bad, not bad at all for early in the day.
Redstone
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:40 PM
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8. No I can't. I've yet to know anyone who finds them attractive either
:shrug:
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:40 PM
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9. once you're over 50, OK
I don't understand why younger women need to fatten their lips. All lip shapes are sexy in youth and early middle age. Gotta admit that when you're a little older, and your lips begin to thin, I can understand why someone would try to restore their former shape.

But, yeah, I don't get younger women trying to make their natural lip shape into something it isn't. Whatever. It isn't a permanent modification so if they want to play with their look, fine.

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and other subversives. We intend to clean them out,
even if it means rounding up every birdwatcher in the country.
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:41 PM
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10. i hate it
i wish people would stop that stuff.
it looks nasty.
freak'n giaganto lips!
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:42 PM
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11. I think it's sick.
But apparently men find it arousing. I wonder what they are imagining.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:43 PM
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14. There isn't a guy on this thread who cops to liking it!
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:44 PM
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16. Can't explain but I'm reminded of a baboon's butt.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:48 PM
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20. Bingo! n/t
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 10:28 PM
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33. ROTFLMAO!.... Damn!!
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:14 AM
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50. HAHHAH!!!!
You nailed it, peekaloo!

:thumbsup:
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:44 PM
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17. It is apparently intended to make attractive women
look as hideous as possible
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:46 PM
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18. When did Courtney Love decide to look like a RealDoll?
Oh snap!
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:48 PM
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21. Women who do that think that guys will think they give good BJs.
I'm just being frank. :D
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:50 PM
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23. Bingo! X 2 n/t
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:50 PM
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24. Must....not......respond.
:muffled mumbling: Cannot be the Sue Johannsen of the lounge. The fun's over.

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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:59 PM
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26. Huh?
I just gave my honest opinion. Hope it won't get your thread locked. :hug:
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 10:13 PM
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27. No, you didn't do anything wrong.
I was about to give MORE honest opinion, but it would have definitely gotten it locked, so I was trying to exert self-control.

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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 10:16 PM
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29. You MUST PM it to me.
You've got my curiosity up. :D
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 10:19 PM
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31. Ha! Like Dookus is gonna let you do that to him ANYway!
LMAO!!!!
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 10:26 PM
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32. Hahahahaha!
:thumbsup:
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 10:15 PM
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28. why not just get a tongue piercing like everybody else?
I'm just sayin

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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 10:41 PM
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34. really?
That's silly. If they turn out not to be good at it, out my house they go! :spank:
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 10:43 PM
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35. I was watching too and I thought the same thing...
Meg Ryan is the same. She's still cute, but the lips are kinda nasty.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 10:47 PM
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36. Sometimes people get a little carried away...


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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:07 PM
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38. Those earspools are cool, though.
But I'm going to report you to the mods for titties in your posts.

:P
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:10 PM
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40. I checked...it's a boy, this time
:P

And the girl in the background is sporting the fuzzy censored appliance that the missionaries installed.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:28 PM
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42. amazing what happens...
... when some folks start free-associating.

Already in this discussion of (white) women who want full lips, we've got intimations of sluttiness, allusions to strange practices in the wilds of Africa, and -- my favorite -- baboon asses.

What next, I wonder?
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:08 PM
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39. full lips are a black characteristic...
... which is very interesting to consider in light of all this vividly expressed disgust with white women who seek to adopt that trait for themselves.

Wasn't someone here saying that such lips remind him/her of a baboon's ass? I'd say that counts as "vividly expressed disgust".
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:26 AM
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52. Full lips can be found in many ethnicities, including Southeast Asian
Filipinos, Malaysians, Cambodians, some Vietanmese.

And there are many whites with naturally full lips, too.

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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:18 PM
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41. I can't explain it
but I've sure noticed a lot of bad examples lately - Shannon Tweed, Whatserface from the Whitesnake videos, and Dolly Parton.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:30 PM
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43. i know, huh?
why can't one just BE THEMSELF????? there's always someone else who LOVES what you are/have, so what's the dealio?
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:23 AM
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51. I'm not in favor of collagen injections, but I think full lips are great
a very attractive feature on women.

More about their kissability than their suitablity for b.j.'s.

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DelawareValleyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:32 AM
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53. Not my favorite web site
They engage in a lot of speculation. There's even a disclaimer on the front page about the claims being the author's opinion. Of course, I don't think every celebrity who denies having had plastic surgery is telling the truth, either.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:06 AM
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56. worse, helgenbergers' entire face looked horrendous
so much so that I missed the lips.

I told my wife: why would an attractive woman do that to herself?
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Phentex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:29 AM
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59. I wondered if she had done more than the lips...
She looked very different.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:17 PM
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60. the only way I knew it was her was the remains of her nose and voice.
her face seemed drawn back, the nose thinned, and the eye sockets reworked, in addition to the lips.

but it was really hard to tell since she was only onscreen for a few seconds. In fact, it took me most of the time to convince myself it WAS her.
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Phentex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:18 PM
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61. She's had a lot less face time recently and
maybe this is the reason why. :shrug:
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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 09:25 AM
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57. Sometimes I have an allergic reaction
And my upper lip will swell up like a balloon, and my lower lip stays normal. Or vice versa. It makes me look like a cartoon fish, no exaggeration.

It is so mortifying to have to go out in public when this happens, because I know people are thinking I'm the victim of a botched collagen job.
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