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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:22 AM
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Can a grammar nazi answer a question for me?
I don't consider myself a grammar expert by no means, but I have a question. When posting a picture and it is yourself and another person, which is proper?
"Here is a picture of my wife and I" or "Here is a picture of my wife and me"
It just seems that everyone always says "blank and I" and it seems to me that it would be "blank and me".
I'm just curious. Thanks
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:22 AM
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1. Me.
:hi:
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:27 AM
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4. That's what I always thought
I see so many people say "I" and I started to question myself. I'm not one for grammar, but the "I" and "me" thing is one of my "peeves".
I even see many of the talking heads on the news use those wrong, and I wonder how they ever got the job as a newscaster.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:28 AM
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6. Perhaps, because ,as children, they showed a remarkable aptitude for
stretching the truth...and ignoring common decency. :7
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:24 AM
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2. 'me' is correct
You'd say 'here is a picture of me', so you add in the other people- 'here is a picture of ______________ and me'. Works for other situations when you don't know whether me or I is the correct word, too.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:24 AM
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3. MrsGrumpy is correct!
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AussieDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:27 AM
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5. "Me" is correct
Another way of looking at it:

"Here is a picture of my wife" and "Here is a picture of me", not "Here is a picture of I"
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:29 AM
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7. If it is a picture with you and your wife, then the answer must be "you"..
:dunce:
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:32 AM
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11. y.u.i. orta...
I don't even have a wife... well....none that I know of B-)
:evilgrin:
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mr blur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:31 AM
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8. ex-English teacher says "me" (nt)
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:31 AM
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9. The reason you are confused is because
Dumbya constantly abuses this rule. "Between he and I" is one of his favorites. Since he is repeatedly shown violating this basic rule without any correction by the press, either orally or in print, we "subliminababbly" absorb this practice.

So.... one more thing to blame on him.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:38 AM
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15. georgie abuses every grammar rule
He is the "Charlie Manson" of the language world.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:32 AM
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10. Here is a picture of my wife and me.
Or.

My wife and I are going to the movie.

See the difference?
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:34 AM
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12. Yes
Like I said, I am not an expert, but the "I" and "me" rule is one I know well. I have seen it wrong so much that I was wondering if maybe I missed some rule that was added lately.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:35 AM
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13. "My wife and I" would be correct when
the phrase is followed by a verb, such as "My wife and I are going to the beach." That's where people get confused, because they've been taught not to say, "My wide and me are going to the beach," and then confuse the grammatical context of "My wife and I"--in this case it's the subject; in the example you cited, it's the object.

Sorry, being the grammar nazi here. And I actually don't know that much about grammar, I just know this stuff instinctively.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:37 AM
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14. Me too
"And I actually don't know that much about grammar, I just know this stuff instinctively." That's how I am.

Maybe people will read this thread and use the correct way. It's one of the only grammar rules that make me flinch when it is used wrong. :)
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:45 AM
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16. What makes me cringe is when someone starts
a sentence with "Me."
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:51 AM
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18. Me be workin' right now.
:7

Yes, "Me" is correct because, as others have pointed out, "me" in the picture sentence belongs to the verb "is."

Supernova <---- editing right now.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:23 AM
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20. Wow, how d'you start a sentence with "me"?
Unless it's baby talk: "Me go potty."

The only legit use I could see of that would be an English imitation of the French habit of starting a sentence with "me":

"Moi, je crois que le president est un idiot."

"Me, I think the president is an idiot."

People use this construction in English sometimes, but I think it's becoming archaic. As far as I know, there's nothing wrong with it grammatically. It 'feels' okay to say, nay?
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:32 AM
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25. how about the cop trying to sound ultra-educated
"Myself and Ofc. Smith proceeded..."
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:50 AM
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17. Terran is correct.
When "my wife and I" is the subject of the sentence, it is in what is called "the nominative" case, so you use I.

When the phrase is being used in a direct object or object of a preposition (such as after "of" when speaking of the picture), it is in the objective case, so you would use "me."

FSC,
diagrammed way too many freaking sentences in Catholic junior high
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 09:01 AM
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19. When a conjuction including the first person pronoun is confusing
Edited on Fri Apr-15-05 09:02 AM by jpgray
Just remove one and see if it makes sense. "Here is a picture of I" doesn't make sense. "Here is a picture of me" does.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:27 AM
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21. here's a good site for grammar reference...
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:27 AM
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22. Take the wife out of the picture and ask yourself this:
This is a picture of I
This is a picture of Me

Problem solved
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:30 AM
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23. Eliminate the words
"my wife and" and you would use "me".... so the convention is that you would still use "me" when you put those words back in.

Besides "me" is an object whereas "I" is a subject. (I think that's the way to explain it.)
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:30 AM
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24. My catholic school-educated mom told me this:
say it as if it was just you. "Here is a picture of my wife and I" OR "Here is a picture of my wife and me." The one that sounds right with you alone is the one you should use.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:02 PM
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26. Solve the grammatical Gordian Knot
"Here is a picture of us."
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