Saw a Confederate flag t-shirt in Whole Foods today.

[Bouncy Ball]

This guy had one on and it had this on the back:



When I was in the checkout stand, he was in the one two over from me and I noticed my sacker saw the shirt and motioned to another sacker, then pointed to it (the guy's back was to us). Both sackers made a disgusted face and I said to the sacker "I saw that earlier, I was pretty surprised to see something like that."

He said "Yeah, that's DISGUSTING.....it's like he's advertising racism." (There's no way the guy could hear him, by the way.)

Both sackers were white. I don't know if that's pertinent, but thought I'd mention it.

Anyway, it was weird. Then the other sacker walked over to mine, chuckled and said "You sure don't see stuff like that in here very often." Then he told him the guy made him put ONE item in EACH brown sack. So he had about 20 brown bags when he left, each with one thing in them.

:wtf:

[flamingyouth]

1. That's just creepy.

I hope the asshole enjoys his organic produce. :eyes:

[Fenris]

12. Pesticide-, Negro-free is the only way to be!

:crazy:

[Bouncy Ball]

17. You kill me.

[Fenris]

18. I mean, come on

Whole Foods is such a hippie place to shop...does he not see the irony?

Oh, wait. Answered my own question.

[Goathead]

21. I wouldn't say hippie, I'd say yuppie.

If I can still use that word. Whole Foods is expensive as all get out.

[Bouncy Ball]

23. It's hip-yuppie!

Yeah, I call it "Whole Paycheck."

[driver8]

37. Definitely Yuppie...definitely NOT hippy!

Whole Foods is so freakin' expensive. "Hippies" don't shop in places like that...whatever a hippy is these days.

[jandrok]

2. One item per sack?

Musta been gettin' an early start on collecting wrapping paper for Christmas or somethin'.

[Nevernose]

6. I was thinking garbage bags

He might be an environmentally sensitive redneck.

[jandrok]

9. Nah. Redneck wrappin' paper is a more plausible theory

Either that, or he needed something to put his dirty books in when he took 'em on huntin' trips and such.

Trust me on these theories. I've seen 'em in action.

[Nevernose]

19. *sigh* I've USED some of those theories

I have been, on occasion, one of those rednecks. I keep trying to figure out who those uppity, elitest liberals are, but I don't know many many uppity elitists who aren't Republicans...

[Bouncy Ball]

24. I'm a Democrat with STRONG, recent redneck roots.

We are the BEST kind of rednecks! :-)

[NoPasaran]

41. Possibly a hot date

[pres2032]

3. so the people who call the civil war

the war of Northern Aggression are still alive and well I see.

[lenidog]

11. About 10 years ago we had a minor fuss around here about a

middle school kid who wouldn't say the pledge. When I first heard the story I figured he was maybe a Jehovah's Witness or he had real problems with the policies of the US and this was his protest. In reality when he was interviewed by the local paper he told them the the US was not his country but if the Confederate States of America came back he would pledge his allegiance to them. So they are still around and breeding.

[pres2032]

14. wow, talk about a brainwashing

yikes!

[lenidog]

15. My jaw dropped when I read that

It was one of the times I wasn't a cynic and I was proved wrong.

[mitchum]

26. I guess he longs for the days when he would be staring at the...

ass end of a mule from sunup till sundown.

[Robeson]

27. Good one....

...and so true...:rofl:

[mitchum]

28. It kills me how all of the confederate revisionists think that THEY...

would be sipping drinks on the veranda of their plantation house while watching their "culluds" work the fields. Idiots.

[MountainLaurel]

69. And breeding fast . . .

The facists are out-procreating progressives by a huge margin. Not particularly surprising, between the average education level issues and religious mandates. But feck.

[alarimer]

22. Yes, there's one in my office in fact

He is adamant about calling it that. I want to retort that the South fired the first shot but I am not actually sure if it is true!!

[NoPasaran]

45. They did

Tradition has it that the Virginia "fire-eater" Edmund Ruffin was given the "honor" of firing the first shot in the bombardment of Fort Sumter in Charleston Harbor. Ruffin had the decency to shoot himself at end of the Civil War rather than submit to "Yankee rule". Too bad more of our present-day confederate apologists don't follow his example.

[alarimer]

76. I thought that was true

But I am sure he would just say they were provoked.

[driver8]

38. I knew a guy from Alabama who used to say, "The South will Rise Again"

I used to tell him, "Yeah...because shit floats."

Note**
The above comment does not in any way reflect my true feelings towards the south. It was simply a comment to piss off an ignorant person.

[JohnnyBoots]

55. It was actually," The war of Southern stupidity"

[Hand]

65. Huh? Oh! You mean...

The War Against Confederate Treason, aka The War to End Southern Slavery. Geez, why didn't ya say so?

:evilgrin: :patriot:

[LynzM]

4. That makes my brain hurt

That's too much disconnect... Ow. Wow. Yeah, :wtf: is right!

edited because apparently I can't type tonight...

[Ellen Forradalom]

5. The sense of victimization

that such Southern "heritage" gear conveys is appalling. I think it's the same sense of grievance that fundies have. They have an ugly self-pitying persecuted-majority mentality.

[Bouncy Ball]

7. AND he was truly really scary looking!

LOL. (But he was, really.)

Yeah, heck I've noticed that in the entire republican party those freaks aren't happy unless they have an enemy or think they are being persecuted somehow.

Democrats used to think of republicans as opponents, but republicans think of Democrats as ENEMIES, so we have had to adjust our thinking as well.

It's kind of sad, really.

[gollygee]

8. Talk about revisionist history

:crazy:

[ikojo]

10. Wow! Were you in St Louis?

It almost would not surprise me to see such a shirt at the Whole (Paycheck) Foods store, except that it probably would not happen since WF is in suburban St Louis. Anyone wearing such a shirt in these parts would probably hear about it from a few customers.

[Bouncy Ball]

16. No it was the Whole Foods in Arlington, Texas.

[AlCzervik]

13. Somethings going on, and it aint good.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3495087&mesg_id=3495087

I talked to my neighbor about it a little while age, he's a police officer and he told me there is a task force for hate groups and that activity has increases quite a bit over the past 2 years.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

34. That's not surprising

considering the hatefull asshole who's occupying the WH.

[Spider Jerusalem]

20. The only answer to that is this bumper sticker I used to have....

[Bouncy Ball]

25. The only thing that would make them more pissed off about that is

if I had one that said "WE lost, get over it!"

That would burn them up! :rofl:

[Starbucks Anarchist]

29. Speaking of strange bumper stickers...

I saw an old pickup truck today that had several bumper stickers for The Clash, Fugazi and other anti-establishment bands.

But in the middle of all those stickers was this:



The irony almost made my head explode.

[fujiyama]

36. I saw a pick up

with a Bob Marley sticker and next to it a Bush/Cheney sticker.

Strange people out there.

[Goathead]

30. The odd thing is, that is the Confederate States Naval Jack

Flown on ships during the Civil War. It is not the "Stars & Bars"

[MercutioATC]

31. Here's the T-shirt to wear to Whole Foods next time you go....

http://www.northernsun.com/cgi-bin/ns/19773.html

[blue neen]

32. Can you believe there are actually people in this part of Pennsylvania

who have Confederate flags hanging in the windows of their trailers?
Pennsylvania? The land of Gettysburg and Yankees and the Underground Railroad?

I guess a racist is a racist no matter where you're from!

[lenidog]

33. There used to be a guy that ran around here with a bumper sticker

that said "Don't blame me I voted for Jeff Davis"

[fudge stripe cookays]

39. Jeff Davis?

The "president" who was so scared of being caught that he wore a dress? THAT Jeff Davis?

Pussy.

Not you dear, the strange gentleman.
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[Bridget Burke]

42. Sam Houston's opinion of Jefferson Davis....

"He is as ambitious as Lucifer, cold as a snake, and what he touches will not prosper."

When Abraham Lincoln was elected president of the United States, the clamor of discontent in Texas prompted Houston to call a special session of the state legislature. Adamantly opposed to secession, Houston warned Texans that civil war would result in a Northern victory and destruction of the South, a prophecy that was borne out by future events. The Secession Convention, however, convened a week later and began a series of actions that withdrew Texas from the Union; Houston acquiesced to these events rather than bring civil strife and bloodshed to his beloved state. But when he refused to take the oath of loyalty to the newly formed Confederate States of America, the Texas convention removed him from office on March 16 and replaced him with Lieutenant Governor Edward Clarkqv two days later. Reportedly, during these traumatic days President Lincoln twice offered Houston the use of federal troops to keep him in office and Texas in the Union, offers that Houston declined, again to avoid making Texas a scene of violence.

www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/view/HH/fho73.html

[fudge stripe cookays]

44. Yep,

Sam Houston-- one of the truly great Texans. I knew he did not like the thought of secession, but had not heard that whole story. Thanks!

Last summer, my first trip taking 45 from Dallas to Houston, was the first time I'd ever seen the honking HUGE statue of him in Huntsville. It's quite impressive!

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[Bok_Tukalo]

50. The first time I saw that was disconcerting

I was riding along looking at the tops of the trees when this giant head appeared. Took me a second to realize what was going on.

[fudge stripe cookays]

52. He's quite tall, isn't he? n/t

[lenidog]

46. That wasn't the worst of it

the other bumper stick said "If I had known they would have been this much trouble I would have picked my own damn cotton."

[fudge stripe cookays]

51. Holy CRAP.

There are no words.
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[lenidog]

61. That was some of his more charming traits

I talked to a couple friends of mine after I saw the car and told them what they said. They were police officers and KNEW instantly whose car I had seen. Not only was the guy a racist but a local fence and a con artist. Top top it off his driving record at the DMV was 6 pages long and the only reason he was still driving was because of a loophole in the in PA's license laws. His license had been suspended originally for 10 years.

[fudge stripe cookays]

64. Lovely.

You keep thinking things can't get any worse, and yet they do.

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[lenidog]

68. LOL I think he hit bottom when they told me about one of his scams

During one of his driving sprees he had a bad single car accident and ended up having a part of his foot amputated. Now we live a couple hours drive away from Atlantic City so the local bus companies run tours. For 30 bucks they would drive you there and give you a roll of quarters. He would go on this tours leave his prostehtic leg behind and use his wheel chair. He would then sit on the boardwalk and pretend since he was the right age to be a Vietnam vet that lost his leg in the war and panhandle. He kept that up for several years until there was a unit convention of real vets that ran into him.

[ContraBass Black]

72. What?

Officer, my brakes failed. I swear. :evilfrown:

[lenidog]

73. I bet good money that his car was perpetually vandalized.

[Bouncy Ball]

35. I can believe it, but it's weird.

[tigereye]

59. well there is an Appalachian aspect

to some parts of Pa. I grew up with people who had those Confed. flag stickers on their trucks. Never made any sense to me... maybe they still identify with that "rebel" aspect of it.

I know I have never seen a Confed t-shirt in the Whole Foods here.

[DelawareValleyDem]

66. Which part?

I've seen a few by me in Bucks County

[MountainLaurel]

70. Are you in Pennsyltucky?

Which is what in college we referred to that great expanse of southern PA from about York over to the WV border. My j-school advisor was a reporter there for many years, and had some incredible stories to tell.

[graywarrior]

40. I see Bus/Cheny stickers all over cars in the Whole Foods

market in Sarasota. It's just wrong. I thought Bushies shopped at Publix.

[GOPisEvil]

43. I, uh, er...WTF?!

My head ---> :nuke:

[miss_kitty]

47. Friday, I was behind a big wheel truck with several odious sentiments

expressed all over it.

"The Second Amendment protects the rest!" as if he's concerned about the rest. The thing his truck had in common with your guy-in Texas, were SEVERAL Confederate flag stickers that were in different shapes-like guitars and stuff. In WA State. In the area where there have been a couple cross burnings and a mixed race couple's house was totally trash was racial epithets and shit. Just north of Seattle about 15 miles or so.

[barb162]

48. It's amazing 140 years after the end of the Civil War, isn't it

[JohnnyBoots]

57. The Red states should be called Grey states, same line as 1865

[Pacifist Patriot]

49. *sigh*

I don't know what to say.

[pdx_prog]

53. If he was in Whole Foods with tha on

He was obviously lost....lol

Usually these guys are your Wal-Mart supercenter types...lol

[JI7]

54. maybe he was doing an experiment

trying to see what type of reaction he would get including in "liberal" places like whole foods. and it included doing weird stuff like one item in each bag.

[Done]

56. The T-Shirt is not entirely incorrect.

Terrorism is not a “group”; it is a tactic. Terrorism is when you use violence against “soft” targets to advance a political or military objective. Terrorism was not invented by the people of the Middle East. We’ve used terrorism on a number of occasions. There were acts of “terrorism” committed against the Indians. There were acts of “terrorism” by both sides during many of our wars.
In the run up to the Civil War, many abolitionists had grown tired of trying to end slavery by peaceful means, so abolitionists like John Brown began to use a tactic that today would be called terrorism. Was this the correct and right thing to do? Yes, since it did help to end slavery which was the world greatest atrocity.
It is true however, that the abolitionists raids were a major battle cry in the south. This means that yes, right or wrong; many confederate soldiers were motivated by what we today would call a war against terrorism, although they did not use the word terrorism at the time.
The American Civil War was perhaps the first “War on Terror”. The confederate soldiers believed they were fighting a “War on Terror”, when in fact; the wealth powers that be were using them to support slavery. Today our soldiers believe they are fighting a “War on Terror”, when in fact the wealthy powers that be are using to help continue our dependence on petroleum. See the connection?

[JohnnyBoots]

58. The more things change......

the more they stay the same.

[MadHound]

60. So hell, why didn't you call him on it?

The more you let this sort of shit go by, the more entitled these assholes think they are.

More than once I've confronted these fools, and left them in a stammering puddle. Of course it probably helps that I'm 6'5 and strong. But still, when you're in some place like Whole Foods, you've got numbers on your side.

Maybe it's just me, but I can never leave these sort of fools alone. They have the right to wear such ignorant shit, but I've equally got the right to call them on it.

[fudge stripe cookays]

71. Forgive me, but you have not met our dear Bouncy.

I have. And I know she's a helluva Democrat, but also a petite flower.

Here in Texas, we have to pick and choose our battles. When it comes to dealing with large, frighteningly fucked-in-the-head rednecks, sometimes you have to ask yourself how much danger you could be putting your ife in if you do. They DO carry here.

And especially if she had Little Bouncy with her. I would never want her to be putting herself in danger to make a point.

We definitely have the right to call them on the bullshit they're spouting, but we can't do it in every situation.

Capisce?
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[RevolutionaryActs]

62. Ew. Just ew.

:puke:

[deutsey]

63. I prefer this one:

[GOPBasher]

67. "Fighting terrorism"???????????

Hmmmm. Somehow, I don't believe fighting for the right to keep slaves is fighting terrorism.

[Paganini]

74. I had a creepy encounter a few years ago

I was playing with a Blues band in a bar in Laurel Maryland and there was a group in the audience that had KKK inspired T-shirts. The only one I remember well was this dirty fellow with a shirt that read "The Original Boys in the Hood" and had a picture of hooded KKK member. Being that the band consisted of an Italian immigrant(me)and three Jews, we were a little unnerved.

[Book Lover]

75. Benvenuto a DU!

So it's OK for the racists to enjoy Black and Black-inspired music, as long as they still hate them, I suppose? Never did understand that kind of cognitive dissonance...