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Seneca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 11:25 PM
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Are you part of the antiwar elite??? I am.
Edited on Wed Oct-22-03 11:51 PM by Seneca
I don't know sometimes whether to laugh, or go into a fit of blind rage at the idiotic spew that emanates from the almighty sphincters of the whore punditocracy, especially the Moonie Whores at the Washington Times.

Diana West, in the typically smug and fucktarded way of fascists, calls the Democratic candidates, and by extension, all those who opposed the invasion of Iraq, the "antiwar elite". :eyes:

Being antiwar is a very bad thing! We're ELITE. One of those loaded words the fascists love to pile on when their own bullshit gets too steamy to shovel and desperation for cover kicks in.

In this column I linked below, I can't even count the fallacies and boneheaded assertions. The same old tired rationale, "if you opposed the war, you love Saddam". Then she calls we elitists self-contradictory because we acknowledge the indisputable truth that Saddam was a vicious despot. Never mind that her alleged chain of logic would call for Bush to invade the rest of the sovereign nations with dictators in charge. Or her poo-pooing of multilateralism as a NECESSITY in U.S. affairs (when she attepmts lamely to shame Clark), OR that she contradicts herself by noting how wonderful it is Turkey is sending troops (ha! I'd love to see her smirk choke when she saw that they are having second thoughts), or Japan is ponying up (it is called blackmail, you Moonie elite!)

Ah, the simplistic dichotimies of fascist newspeak.

Read, all you fellow masochists! Then join me in the Lounge for some beer. Reading this kind of crap makes me thirsty. :-)


Link and some text:
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/1003/west1.asp


Bad news for Democratic candidates
The problem with the antiwar elite — and by that I mean most of the Democratic presidential candidates and their assorted liberal "wise men" — is that political attacks on the president's war on Islamic terrorism won't always be enough to satisfy them. It's just a matter of time before taking shots at the president (Howard Dean), nixing the White House's $87 billion funding request to stabilize Iraq (John Edwards, John Kerry, Dennis Kucinich), and penning essays for The New York Review of Books entitled "Iraq: What Went Wrong" (Wesley Clark), will seem evasive at best, even obstructionist. Soon, the burning question Democrats must answer will be not what they think is wrong with George W. Bush's policy, but what they, as members of the antiwar elite, would do in his place.

and...
This rationale seems to be enough for some people. In a slurpy paean to Wesley Clark, Yale's Harold Bloom declares in The Wall Street Journal that because Gen. Clark saved tens of thousands of Muslim lives in Bosnia and Kosovo, he's the man for our times. (Given that George W. Bush saved that many Muslims and more by deposing Saddam Hussein, perhaps the Yale lit light should reconsider his endorsement.) Bloom also declares his anti-Saddam bona fides: "I trust it is clear that I am not deploring our deposing of Saddam Hussein, though its motivations remain obscure."


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GACK! :nuke: :puke: :grr: "Animus towards Bush" indeed! He is FUCKING EVERYTHING ALL TO HELL!!!!!! GODDAMN RIGHT WE HAVE "ANIMUS"!!!!

Ok, gimme a beer! :beer:


Note to mods: I thought I was in GD, but you can make the call on whether it should stay here or be moved. If it stays here, it's closer to beer. If it moves, the GD-only crowd can get their 2 cents in too. :-) Sorry, and thanks! D'oh.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 11:28 PM
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1. Had us elitists been listened to 340 US soldiers would still be alive
As well as 7000 Iraqi civilians (though I don't expect their side to care about Iraqi civilians).

My conscience is clear and I will stick my finger in her side's face and say, "we told you so"
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 11:29 PM
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2. I'm starting to get pissed
Edited on Wed Oct-22-03 11:30 PM by La_Serpiente
If Americans re-elect Bush, then the blame lies on the populace that voted for him. They are responsible for their own destinies, not President Bush. If they want to head down a path where we will be doing massive reconstruction projects without the help of the UN, then it is their fault. And don't tell me that we are there to liberate them, oh no. It is only the next step of the Neo-US Empire.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 11:46 PM
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5. They're not terribly different from
the crew that supported Hitler, are they?

As long as they're singing "God Bless America" they must be true patriots and not greedy war-mongers, right?
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 03:33 PM
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13. Americans can't re-elect Bush
We didn't elect him in the first place!

"it's not the people who vote who count, it's the people who count the votes"
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 11:37 PM
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3. Of course you're an elite. With your name?!?!?!?!
:)

Nothing like being on the side of the angels, is there.
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alexwcovington Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 11:44 PM
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4. Naah. I'm a member of the antiwar gutter trash.
Dirt. Poor.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 02:57 AM
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6. Somebody Seems to Think So
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 03:08 AM
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7. I'm Hosting a $2000-a-plate antiwar dinner at the Petrolium Club
Cough it up, Seneca! This is great! We've finally been promoted from jobless, patchouli-wearing morons to...ELITE! Woo-Hoo! I'm going to the mall to celebrate my newly ascribed fortune.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:13 AM
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11. Exactly! Who has W raise $50 Million from anyway?
Oh the hard working Joe's who are told not to wear ties when sitting behind W so it looks like a more working class crowd.

PuhLeeeeease! How many college professors ar ethere anyway? That is a sizable group? Didn't Newt and Phil Graham teach college courses?

THIS'ELITISM' TAG IS CLASS WARFARE!
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Seneca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 08:46 AM
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8. an elitist kick
eom
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 08:54 AM
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9. Proud elitist here.
A Gulf War veteran elitist, at that. Most of these war, war, war, rah-rahs have never heard a shot fired in anger. They love war as long as someone else is doing the fighting. They can kiss my patriotic ass!
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Seneca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:08 AM
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10. I always appreciate the insight of a real vet!
This screed is just the latest "You all are just Bush-haters and out of touch with America" propaganda piece.

Dissent is now just another trait of the liberal elite, and conformity is once again championed by 'right-thinking Americans'. :puke:

Conformity and Jingoism: The Only Real American Values!
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:27 AM
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12. Pisses me off, Seneca.
My in-laws are B*sh idolators. Total reich-wing Asskkkroft-kissers. They constantly laud the Bushies for their 'wonderful job' in Iraq. My father-in-law is fairly wealthy. He accrued his fortune in a country he has never lifted a finger to defend. And he's got three sons sucking the cream of financial success who have also never served in uniform. I wonder how goodbellythinkful he would be of the Chimp if even just one of his sons had been killed in Iraq. But it doesn't matter, does it? Dying in a war is for poor people, right?
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 03:43 PM
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14. I'm more elitest than all of you put together.
I TOLD you so. :)
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Seneca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 07:30 PM
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15. flog me!
:D
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moof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 07:49 PM
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16. Is "civilized" to pedestrian a term for non-violent people?
or does this interfer too much with the ruling class wanting to think of themselves as civilized ?
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