joeybee12
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Mon May-02-05 11:02 AM
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Anyone one know anything about Dual Citizenship? A friend told me |
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that since my paternal grandparents came over from Lithuania, I would be able to get dual citizenship--US and Lithuania. The idea would be so that I could have citizenship in an EU country, which would allow me to work in Europe much more easily. Anyone know anything about this? My friend said he was planning on doing this a few years back and was going to go this route. I can't find anything on the Lithuanian Consulate site about this.
Thanks!
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Mon May-02-05 11:11 AM
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about Lithuania. For those with that connection to Ireland, it is possible .... but the process has recently become more difficult. Contacting the Lithuanian embassy is probably your best bet. (There are books for the Irish-Americans that are available; might be the same deal for you.)
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Mon May-02-05 11:13 AM
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2. Thanks...I had read that the US looks down on it now...can't see |
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why anyone would wanna be a citizen of two countries when we're so friggin' great!
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Mon May-02-05 11:14 AM
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3. My cousins & aunt has dual citizenship from Canada |
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My aunt was born here, and married a Canadian and that is how she got her dual citizenship. She then had 2 kids, one lives there, and the other one lives here, both with dual citizenship as well.
They cant vote, nor run for office, but they can hold jobs and go to school, but cant get financial aid from here.
If that was the case, I'd be triple citizenship.. US, Poland, and what was Yugoslavia since my great-great grandparents came from there.
I think it only applies if you were either born here or one of your parents is from another country. Not 100% sure tho.
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Mon May-02-05 11:17 AM
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I was born in Germany. My dad was in the military at the time and stationed near Frankfurt. I spent the first four years of my life in Germany. Does that mean that I'm also a German citizen?
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Mon May-02-05 11:19 AM
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Just going off of what my Aunt and cousins have. It sounds like you would, but then you were probably were considered born on US land (US base) but what the hell do I know. Contact the German embassy.
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Mon May-02-05 11:22 AM
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That would be so cool. I don't know a bit about the language and customs, though. I was too young to pick up on any of that.
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Mon May-02-05 11:27 AM
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10. Only if you were born in a German hospital, OR |
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your parents had the US hospital issue a German birth certificate.
My daughter was born in an Army hospital in Germany, and we chose the US certificate. She is not a German citizen.
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Mon May-02-05 11:29 AM
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12. Thank you for the info |
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My birth certificate is American, so I guess I don't qualify for German citizenship. I do believe that I was born in a military hospital.
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Mon May-02-05 11:35 AM
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Mon May-02-05 12:09 PM
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23. Germany doesn't allow double citizenship |
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either you are German or not. for example: if I would marry my American bf adn get the American citizenship I have to give up the German. If we have kids they have both citizenships till they turn 18, then they have to decide.
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Mon May-02-05 05:18 PM
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32. that is not quite correct |
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Under certain circumstances dual citizenship is possible. There is no right to dual citizenship in Germany (thanks a lot, Roland Koch :puke:), but it does exist. Especially American/German is not impossible. Unlike Turkish/German ;-) .
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Tue May-03-05 01:11 AM
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thanks.
And Roland Koch is responsible for that???? ARGH ... why do i have to live in Hessen?????
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Mon May-02-05 11:22 AM
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7. My hubby just activated his UK citizenship |
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kind of amazing ... you live your whole life in the US and then by a quirk of parental fate, you get an EU passport and become a citizen of a country you've only visited three times.
We're keeping ours as a "just in case the US collapses" sort of thing.
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Mon May-02-05 01:38 PM
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30. Tell him welcome to the British from me |
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He needs to start drinking tea and hating king george - I'm guessing that he does at least one already.
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Mon May-02-05 11:23 AM
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8. i looked into dual citizenship |
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My mom was a Canadian citizen when I was born. But at least in my situation , I didn't qualitfy because it was my mom and not my dad who was a citizen. Weird.
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Mon May-02-05 11:27 AM
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11. Yeah, my friend said it had to be on my father's side...even though |
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I claim the same lineage from both parents!
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Mon May-02-05 11:36 AM
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I knew Britain did that, but I didn't think Canada was so archaic.
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Mon May-02-05 11:48 AM
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21. And you know, you can only be as sure of your paternal lineage as your mom |
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Edited on Mon May-02-05 11:48 AM by miss_kitty
is :evilgrin: So I don't know what the Canadians are thinking there-you can only be sure of the distaff lineage.
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Mon May-02-05 11:26 AM
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Lithuania joined the European Union along with 9 other European countries in May 2004. It has changed its citizenship law with effect from 1 January 2003 to allow people who were citizens of Lithuania before 15 June 1940, and three generations of their descendants, to regain Lithuanian citizenship without having to give up their existing nationalities. Lithuania does not have a specific Citizenship-by-Investment Programme but its Citizenship Law does permit the naturalisation of people who have invested money in the country and benefited the economy and created jobs there without them having to meet the normal requirements. Please click here for more information. http://www.henleyglobal.com/m-citizenship3.htmhttp://www.henleyglobal.com/lithuania.htm
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Mon May-02-05 11:30 AM
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13. Thanks--that's what I'm looking for! |
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Might as well head over to a place that already went through its Dark Ages!
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Mon May-02-05 11:31 AM
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14. Funny, I was just looking at something about this. |
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Mon May-02-05 11:40 AM
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18. Hey--great minds think alike--thanks for the link! |
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Mon May-02-05 11:36 AM
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17. Each country has its own rules. |
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Italy is known to be lax in that respect, i.e., one greatgrandparent will get you a passport (provided you produce the documentation for all links in the chain). I got a Spanish one, but then BOTH my parents were Spaniards.
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Mon May-02-05 11:44 AM
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20. Have you foudn that it comes in handy? Have you been to Spain and |
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Mon May-02-05 12:12 PM
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24. Lots of times. No visa to visit the USA either. |
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Although I don't know if that changed since the last time I went there (pre-9/11)
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Mon May-02-05 12:16 PM
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25. I'd be willing to be that it has changed...lots more unneccessary rules |
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Mon May-02-05 11:41 AM
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19. Every country's citizenship laws are different. |
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Edited on Mon May-02-05 11:43 AM by ihaveaquestion
The US doesn't recognize dual citizenship. If you're a US citizen, then that's what you are, period.
Other countries do recognize dual citizenship and the second one can be the US.
I know a few specifics about Germany and Greece because my kids were born there.
Germany - My daughter has both a German birth certificate and a US consular birth certificate. She is considered a US citizen by the US (end of conversation as far as the US gov't. is concerned). Germany doesn't recognize dual citizenship, but my understanding is that when she was 18, she could have made a choice to apply for German citizenship, but she didn't do so (she lived in Germany only 2 months) and I don't know what the process would have been. She's 25 now and she may not have this option anymore.
Greece - My son also has both Greek and US Consular birth certificates. He is a US citizen according to the US gov't (again, end of story there). Greece has a unique view of his citizenship however - They recognize dual citizenship and have no problem that he is a US citizen, however, he is also considered a Greek citizen whether he likes it or not! He was born in Greece and that's that! This could have it's advantages - for example: the last I heard, only citizens can own property in Greece. One huge disadvantage to this is: mandatory military service, which he would be drafted into if he should visit Greece before the upper age limit of the draft. Pretty weird!
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Mon May-02-05 11:56 AM
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22. Be sure to keep him home! |
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Mon May-02-05 01:20 PM
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He's been told - Under NO circumstances is he to visit Greece!
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Mon May-02-05 12:55 PM
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26. Actually, US does recognize dual citizenship... |
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As long as you're US to begin with, anyway.
I emigrated to Canada in 1990 and became a Canadian citizen in 1994. Canada makes no renunciation requirements for your former country, so I still retain US citizenship, passport, voting, etc. Last time I went through customs when visiting the US, I used my Canadian passport; the customs guy ran my name through the computer as usual and observed, "Oh, you're a US citizen, too." (Some others apparently get rather nasty about this and give you a nice long lecture about what a traitorous swine you are.)
I'm not sure if the US still requires that you renounce your former citizenship if you become a naturalized US citizen--probably do. However, that doesn't particularly affect how your native country looks at you. Many, if not most, simpy igore the US's renunciation requirement and keep you on the books unless you formally renounce at an embassy, consulate, or wherever. I imagine that at least some would tell you, "Sorry. No renunciations allowed. Your ass belongs to us whether you like it or not."
Anyway, my case is probably one of the simpler examples. It can get really complex if you're born abroad or your parents have mixed citizenships.
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Mon May-02-05 02:07 PM
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31. When my husband obtained his US citizenship in June, 1999 |
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he didn't renounce his Irish citizenship. It wasn't required or requested. The only thing he had to do that morning in Federal Court was turn in his "green card".
In fact, we're in the process of renewing his Irish passport which expires later this year because I've decided to request Irish citizenship through him.
When he travels he takes both his American and Irish passport with him. He needs the American one leaving and entering the US, but when he arrives in the Dublin airport he gets to use the EU line, which is always much shorter than the non-EU passport line.
BTW if any Americans married to an Irish spouse want to claim Irish citizenship, the paperwork has to be in Dublin by November of this year. The Irish government changed the requirements and after November, 2005 they are going to include a residency requirement for non-EU citizens. Contact your local Irish consulate for more information.
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Mon May-02-05 07:48 PM
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I guess that policy must have changed, then--not that it would have made a heck of a lot of difference. If Ireland still regarded him as a citizen, he'd still be an Irish citizen one way or the other.
Time was, if you took on foreign citizenship, served in a foreign army, or even just voted in a foreign election, you could automatically lose your US citizenship--and that was definitely enforced. I know that changed quite a few years ago. I think Israel was always an exception, however.
I've been known to pull the passport switch trick occasionally in the past, but these days I'm disinclined to risk it when entering the US--might wind up at Gitmo, and I'm only half joking! :scared:
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Mon May-02-05 01:08 PM
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27. The last two girls I dated |
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their fathers were both from Canada originally. Peculiar now that I think about it.
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Mon May-02-05 01:16 PM
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28. I think it depends on Lithuanian laws... |
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I have Irish and US citizen ship by registering as a foreign-born Irish citizen. I was entitled under Irish law since my grandfather was Irish-born.
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Tue May-03-05 01:27 AM
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35. A friend of mine from high school I believe held dual |
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citizenship at one point in time. He was born in Brazil to American parents who moved back after he was born. I think that he had to drop his Brazilian citizenship after a while(I cannot remember the reason why). I should find out what it consisted of paperwork-wise sometime.
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