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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:09 AM
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Cinco de Mayo-a day to celebrate liberty and freedom

http://www.vivacincodemayo.org/history.htm

The 5th of May is not Mexican Independence Day, but it should be! And Cinco de Mayo is not an American holiday, but it should be. Mexico declared its independence from mother Spain on midnight, the 15th of September, 1810. And it took 11 years before the first Spanish soldiers were told and forced to leave Mexico.

So, why Cinco de Mayo? And why should Americans savor this day as well? Because 4,000 Mexican soldiers smashed the French and traitor Mexican army of 8,000 at Puebla, Mexico, 100 miles east of Mexico City on the morning of May 5, 1862.

The French had landed in Mexico (along with Spanish and English troops) five months earlier on the pretext of collecting Mexican debts from the newly elected government of democratic President (and Indian) Benito Juarez. The English and Spanish quickly made deals and left. The French, however, had different ideas.

Under Emperor Napoleon III, who detested the United States, the French came to stay. They brought a Hapsburg prince with them to rule the new Mexican empire. His name was Maximilian; his wife, Carolota. Napoleon's French Army had not been defeated in 50 years, and it invaded Mexico with the finest modern equipment and with a newly reconstituted Foreign Legion. The French were not afraid of anyone, especially since the United States was embroiled in its own Civil War.

General Zaragosa ordered Colonel Diaz to take his cavalry, the best in the world, out to the French flanks. In response, the French did a most stupid thing; they sent their cavalry off to chase Diaz and his men, who proceeded to butcher them. The remaining French infantrymen charged the Mexican defenders through sloppy mud from a thunderstorm and through hundreds of head of stampeding cattle stirred up by Indians armed only with machetes.

When the battle was over, many French were killed or wounded and their cavalry was being chased by Diaz' superb horsemen miles away. The Mexicans had won a great victory that kept Napoleon III from supplying the confederate rebels for another year, allowing the United States to build the greatest army the world had ever seen. This grand army smashed the Confederates at Gettysburg just 14 months after the battle of Puebla, essentially ending the Civil War.

It might be a historical stretch to credit the survival of the United States to those brave 4,000 Mexicans who faced an army twice as large in 1862. But who knows?

In gratitude, thousands of Mexicans crossed the border after Pearl Harbor to join the U.S. Armed Forces. As recently as the Persian Gulf War, Mexicans flooded American consulates with phone calls, trying to join up and fight another war for America.

Mexicans, you see, never forget who their friends are, and neither do Americans. That's why Cinco de Mayo is such a party -- A party that celebrates freedom and liberty. There are two ideals which Mexicans and Americans have fought shoulder to shoulder to protect, ever since the 5th of May, 1862. VIVA! el CINCO DE MAYO!!


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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:15 AM
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1. This is a cool story.
Edited on Thu May-05-05 09:15 AM by kick-ass-bob
I'm so glad that everyone loves Mexicans today, and are lining up because they want to speak spanish. And not harrassing those trying to work for a living here in the US.

I hope it's not needed, but here is the :sarcasm: for those who are impaired in this category.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:17 AM
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2. Actually I am signing up to re-take Spanish
A basics course is being offered at work (every Wednesday for 12 weeks) and I am going to see if I can work that out with my boss.

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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:19 AM
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4. and I am borrowing those learn spanish tapes
from the library this weekend. Do they work?

:thumbsup:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:27 AM
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6. ¿Donde esta la Biblioteche?
Okay that and the numbers are all I remember from 7th and 8th grade Espanol.

I don't know but obviously, for me anyway, they can't hurt.

Ooh ooh I remembered another one.

¿Donde esta la casa de Pepe?
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:31 AM
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7. that's better than remembering only
"hasta la vista, baby"


Along with the tapes, I'm watching Dora the Explorer.
Surely I'll be an expert in 3 weeks.

:crazy:

¿Donde esta el bano?

(what's the code for the tilde n?)
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:41 AM
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8. I try to focus on solving the riddle on Dora's show
another language is usually too much to handle on Saturday mornings.
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:49 AM
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11. hey though - my daughter can count to 10 in spanish
better than she can in english. She sometimes skips '7' in english but always includes it in spanish.

Thanks Dora!
:P
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Jessica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:19 AM
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3. Just this morning ...
I got a phone call (I work for the state) from a guy asking about state legislation that was recently vetoed that would've declared English as our official state language. I told him it failed & he was quite pissed ... said, "These damn Mexicans are taking over Pocahontas County."

Idiot freeper. :grr:

It's hard for me to be professional in those situations.
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:20 AM
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5. I can't wait for us (non-hisp) whiteys
to be in the minority. Some of us just really need to feel what it's like.
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dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:44 AM
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9. September 16 I believe is independence day for Mexico
"las dieciseis de septembre" is how I always used to hear it growing up.
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dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:48 AM
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10. Plus, I am going to recommended this thread btw....GR8 history...
I think we at DU should all read...:)

Thanks
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 10:14 AM
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13. It is a really good story
Wow thanks
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:54 AM
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12. Rockin good stuff, underpants!
Gracias!

:yourock:

y Feliz Cinco de Mayo!

:bounce: :woohoo: :party: :woohoo: :party: :woohoo: :bounce:
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Celeborn Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 10:14 AM
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14. Que Viva Mexico!
Que Viva Benito Juarez! Feliz Cinco de Mayo!:party:
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 10:16 AM
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15. Yeah, but, it means little in Mexico
In Mexico, 5/5 barely rates notice. The September anniversary is their July 4th. The popularity of Cinco de Mayo in the US is inexplicable, other than as an excuse to sell beer.
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 10:21 AM
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18. I guess it's kinda like the St. Paddy's day phenomenon
It's a religious holiday there but a drinking holiday in the states
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dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 10:52 AM
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22. Yeah. I often tell friends....
that the Irish and Mexican (I am mexican-american) are one in the same.
Highly emotional catholics who love to drink!
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 10:57 AM
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23. Being an Irish-American...
I can agree with that sentiment
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 11:58 AM
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25. Agreed
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 11:52 AM
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24. Huh!
Interesting observation!
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Celeborn Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 10:29 AM
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21. Yeah,
I think only one state in Mexico celebrates Cinco de Mayo and that's the state where the battle took place.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 10:17 AM
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16. lets party!!!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
:woohoo:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 10:19 AM
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17. CERVEZA!!!!!!!!!
:beer:

I named my Bradley (had to start with a "C") that in Germany
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 10:23 AM
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19. It's my birthday, too! Time to break out the margaritas!
Happy birthday to me, happy birthday to meeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 10:26 AM
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20. Yaaaaaaay HAPPY BIRTHDAY
:woohoo:
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 11:59 AM
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26. My Mexican buddy has a French last name
Not all the French died, some of them had families.

However, there is some discrimination against the French descendents in Mexico, I'm told.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 12:25 PM
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27. I'm Scotch-Irish
So basically someone way back in my family was sent from Scotland to Ireland to kill off the Catholics and they stayed. Now about the Italians and the Moors.............
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