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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 05:29 PM
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Poll question: KISS. Classic rock gods or capitalist swine?
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 05:30 PM
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1. Moron Detectors
They do me a favor.
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 05:31 PM
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2. Well....
Gene is a Repube...but hell I grew up with this crazy shit...Rock 'n Roll!!
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 05:52 PM
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17. The fact that Gene is a repuke...
And considering what is known about him and his sexual predelictions, should tell you just about everything you need to know about repuke go-getters.

This whole thing with fundies is only marketing, nothing more. Just like KISS.
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 05:57 PM
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22. Umm hmm...
yes, those Knights In Satanic Society....sure sounds Skulls and Bonish to me.
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crimson333 Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 06:02 PM
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27. I always heard him say
That he thought republicans were better during war, and he voted Democrat in peace time.

but unlike you from what I can tell, I have never met the man.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 05:33 PM
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3. I had a Kiss lunchbox when I was a wee one. Scared the crap
outta my teachers. I might as well have had an upside down pentagram carved into my forehead.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 05:33 PM
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4. I applaud their success
Even though can't stand their music and think there wasn't a good musician in the bunch. But they had the showmanship.

I was at their Oklahoma City concert when a very young Vince Gill and his bluegrass band Mountain Smoke was the opening act. They had to leave after just a few songs. Lucky they didn't get killed. :-)
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 05:36 PM
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9. Holy CRAP...Vince GILL opened for KISS?
I'm a Vince Gill fan...although it saddens me that he is a Chet Atkins influenced (and Chet Atkins caliber) guitar player who should release an all-instrumental album and forget the country PAP he favors...

...but that's sort of like the time that Hendrix opened for The Monkees, isn't it?

:silly:
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 05:40 PM
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10. Oh Yeah it was wild
Of course, we didn't know it was Vince Gill at the time. Just a bluegrass band. Years later he became famous and told the story about it.

He is a great picker. If he wasn't handsome and a decent singer he could have been great. You know, like Roy Clark :-) (I smile but I think Roy Clark was a god of stringed instruments)

Garth Brooks was at that concert too. But he was just a kid like me at the time. :-)
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 05:51 PM
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15. Vince seems like a decent enough guy...
...and he WAS in Pure Prairie League, one of the greatest and most underrated "country rock" bands of ALL TIME.

HOWEVER, I STILL want that "all instrumental" album.



:toast:
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 06:12 PM
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32. Garth Brooks admits to being a KISS fan.
He did a version of "Hard Luck Woman" for a KISS tribute album a few years back.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 06:21 PM
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37. Yeah, I had that on cassette... it was called "KISS My Ass."
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 06:21 PM
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38. I liked Garth's version of the song.
He sounded completely different from his country star sound.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 05:34 PM
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5. When I was 20, they were cool
At 50, I'm horrified.

Who still likes 'em? Jezus.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 05:45 PM
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14. My husband.
Edited on Wed May-11-05 05:46 PM by Left Is Write
But even he isn't as ardent as he was as a youngster.

He sold a bunch of his old memorabilia and "collectible" stuff, but he still likes to listen to his old albums.

Edited to add - he also says that Paul Stanley is a supreme asshole.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 05:53 PM
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18. Trust me when I tell you:
Gene makes Paul seem like a saint.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 05:53 PM
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19. Supreme, YES, but second only to GENE...
Ask your husband to read THIS book:



...and let me know if he still wants to talk about Paul Stanley being an asshole.

:toast:
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 05:57 PM
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23. I can't stand Gene Simmons. Not one little bit.
My husband is basing his "Paul Stanley is an asshole" opinion on having met the man. I don't believe he's met Gene, but he'd probably readily agree that he's a jerk.

Any man who brags he can "take" every other man's girlfriend or wife is a liar and a braggart. And a jerk. I wouldn't let that scuzzball touch me even if his entire body was covered in latex.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 06:07 PM
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29. Gene Simmons kept Polaroids of his "conquests"...
...and it makes me think of The Eagles' song "King of Hollywood," about a sleazeball looking through his "scrapbook" of "fallen angels."

Gene is ambitious, yes. Successful, yes. Scum of the earth, YES.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 05:35 PM
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6. All sizzle, no steak
Edited on Wed May-11-05 05:36 PM by Sandpiper
And they don't even have sizzle anymore.

Except to 45 year old adolescents.

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newfaceinhell Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 05:35 PM
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7. Both!
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 05:36 PM
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8. anyone whose act requires 50 pounds of Scary Clown makeup...
...probably sucks.

KISS are third rate, at best. The only song of theirs that I can listen to is God of Thunder, and that's only because of my phobic fixation with lightning.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 05:41 PM
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11. Most overrated rock act EVER!
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 05:42 PM
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12. Both, but a little more of the latter.
I like their hits, and "Alive!" and "Destroyer" were decent albums, but their music compared to any other hard rock band in the 70's was nothing. It was all about the showmanship and not about making good music. Ever.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 06:12 PM
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33. I don't think ANYONE who grew up in the 70s can argue with "Destroyer"...
...it was produced by Bob Ezrin, who crafted hits for Alice Cooper, Lou Reed, and Pink Floyd (among others).

The first three KISS studio albums sold like CRAP.

"Alive," the double live album was a MONSTER.

Ezrin's job...which he performed with flying colors...was to capture the raw immediacy of KISS live in a studio setting.

I feel that "Detroit Rock City" is one of the greatest rock & roll songs OF ALL TIME.

KISS deserves credit, but they COULDN'T have done it WITHOUT Ezrin.

And now you know why I offered the choice "Everything after Destroyer is CRAP..."

...because it IS.

This album WAS, and IS, a classic:



:toast:
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crimson333 Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 06:18 PM
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36. I always liked their first album the best
but I loved Destroyer
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 05:44 PM
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13. They are the Kings of Merchandising. Gene Simmons is, at any rate.
Anything and everything by them, about them, for them, is for sale.
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General Zod Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 05:52 PM
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16. If it wasn't for the make-up, they would have been just another bar band
God knows how they made it big.

I do like Ace Frehley's "New York Groove."
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rebel_yell Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 05:54 PM
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20. the image overpowers the music
which is mediocre anyways
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 05:55 PM
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21. I'm from Detroit, ground central for the Kiss Army
And I know that they're whores.

That ought to tell you something
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crimson333 Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 06:00 PM
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24. In the words of Henry Rollins
kiss was visionary the complete package
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 06:00 PM
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25. suckiest band in history
don't even care about the rest
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 06:01 PM
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26. see post number 1
:D
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 06:03 PM
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28. Give me the original Alice Cooper band any day
But yeah, I admit to liking some of KISS's stuff, mostly for the nostalgia factor at this point. :D
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crimson333 Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 06:08 PM
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30. I always think of Kiss when I see you name
even though I think I read flamingyouth stood for something else,

but all I think " My flamingyouth set the world on fire..."
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 06:09 PM
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31. That's funny - I know a lot of people do
I actually took my name from the 1923 novel and silent movie. But yeah, I know the KISS song of the same name. :D
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crimson333 Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 06:14 PM
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34. I spent a great many hours listening to Alice Cooper
To this day I love cold ethyl, but after I got out of high school in 86 I stopped for some reason. I wish I still had my old records
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 06:17 PM
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35. Oh YEAH. Alice Cooper...
...THESE albums:











I moved to California when Alice's star was on the rise.

THESE albums...as well as the Rod Stewart / Ron Wood stuff on Stewart's solo albums, and with Faces...made up the soundtrack of my LIFE.

I SALUTE your EXCELLENT taste.

:toast:
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