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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 05:50 PM
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Anyone else sort of disappointed in "Kingdom of Heaven?'
Edited on Sun May-15-05 05:51 PM by KoKo01
I thought it would be better than it was. There were maybe 10 Memorable Lines in the whole movie that made me happy I paid my money for popcorn/drink/admission.

I liked the battle scenes and thought the cinematographer was excellent...lots of little details making the time frame authentic. But it didn't have the dialog I expected. And, it didn't have "CONTEXT," IMHO... It seemed that it didn't get the "hard message" out "historically" and I wondered if it was because Ridley Scott was "tiptoeing around the Bushes?" :shrug:

It kind of made me sad because I remember movies that were much more hard hitting back before and during "McCarthy Era" that would have had context and dialog which would have really influenced opinion or really have entertained "thinking people" much better than this movie did.

It was a movie that could have said so much but in the end didn't deliver to me. Good technicals on the battle/blood and violence/costumes and era...but not much else.
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Hatalles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 05:58 PM
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1. I really enjoyed it.
Maybe it's because I don't have that experience with watching older "hard-hitting" film but I thought the issues "Kingdom of Heaven" dealt with and how they related to our time were presented well enough.

However, I thought the romance between Balian and Sybilla was a waste of time... and I felt the defense of Jerusalem was a bit overdone -- I've read Saladin's forces were usually much smaller and the Hollywood-esque ingenuity of Balian's defenders made Saladin look a little more like a general who employs the 'overkill' strategy in battle.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 06:00 PM
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2. You're review is about what I would expect from the movie.
I suspected the battle scenes would be spectacular, but the plot, acting, script, would be mediocre to embarassingly bad.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 06:04 PM
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3. I enjoyed it,particularly the line
where someone close to Orlando Bloom's character says (I am paraphrasing here), "I thought I was going to war for to liberate Jerusalem but all I went to war for was wealth."
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C_eh_N_eh_D_eh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 09:17 PM
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6. It was Jeremy Irons' character who said that.
Or maybe both of them, at different points. Most of the dialog wasn't very memorable.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 06:16 PM
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4. It was pretty good, BUT
it makes me wonder just how many more medevial battle flicks there will be before someone comes up with the next movie trend. Swordplay and epic battles were cool in Lord Of The Rings, but now it's getting old.

There was a lot in Kingdom that reminded me strongly of Gladiator-- the thing that stood out the most was the increasingly frequent emotion shots of Eva Green that had no real direct connection with the storyline. It's something my brother used to call a "pregnant pause".
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 09:09 PM
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5. lol's there were many "pregnant pauses" in that movie in dialog...
Great Action....low on dialog with "screen shots" of faces more important than dialog or interaction between the individual characters in what should have been a the "telling of a story" rather than just the telling of a "battle." IMHO...anyway.
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