the fix is in...(warning...AI spoiler!!!!)

[rppper]

i am sick....bleeeeech!!!!

[LostInAnomie]

1. BUUUULLLLLL SHHHIIITTTT!!!!

No way this is legit. Bo got robbed.

[Maddy McCall]

2. You need to edit this and put it as a spoiler.

Tons of DUers are on the West Coast, and they may not want to know this until they watch it.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

7. I knew the fix was in last night

[DS1]

8. People will never fucking learn this

It's sad, really. It's not that fucking hard.

Fuck.

[Maddy McCall]

12. I know.

No use in watching it now, if you're on the left coast. :grr:

[DS1]

18. Well, I'd say there was no use in watching it ever, but that's for another

thread :-)

[Maddy McCall]

25. It's not just American Idol...

It's any kind of show that has a suspenseful ending. West coasters always get screwed.

So, did you enjoy the Rob and Amber Wedding special? :P

[DS1]

26. Who?

And people do it for Formula 1 races sometimes, and sometimes I don't feel like getting up at 7 on a Sunday morning, then some asshole posts the winner of the race, I bitch, and THEY have the gall to tell me to not surf the internet. :wtf:

[Maddy McCall]

29. That would piss me off.

I don't know what Formula 1 is, but my kid and I have recently started watching NASCAR. I'd be pissed as hell if someone gave away the winner before I saw the race.

[rppper]

20. oops...sorry west coasters.....i was to pissed to think

listen to her warble on....i knew i should have never started watching this bullshit from the get go....but dammit i got hooked on the initial trials....

NEVER AGAIN...SIMON F'N COWELL...NEVER AGAIN .....

[WI_DEM]

3. I am surprised, but I think she is a very good singer

but Bo had more stage magnatism.

[Bread and Circus]

She is nasal twang Bush Country crap...but hey if that's what America

likes, then so be it.

Personally, I like Bo and I will buy his record and go to his concert.

Carrie sucks except when she does country music.

Guess what they have a country idol show, she should have been on that.

[Bread and Circus]

40. She is nasal twang Bush Country crap...but hey if that's what America

likes, then so be it.

Personally, I like Bo and I will buy his record and go to his concert.

Carrie sucks except when she does country music.

Guess what they have a country idol show, she should have been on that.

[Wickerman]

4. Please edit your subject line for the West Coasters

[OKNancy]

5. Yeah Carrie!!!!!!!

[johnnie]

6. Yeah

My world has changed too.:eyes:

[sniffa]

9. way to spoiL

[tishaLA]

10. Thank you for respecting those of us not on Eastern time

[cornermouse]

13. You really want to see Bo with Lynard Skynard.

Fantastic!

[susanna]

27. Oh yeah...

Fabulous!

[Texasgal]

11. Fuck that....

The show sucks... fuckitall!!!!

[Rabrrrrrr]

14. I'd like to say I'm surprised, but I'm not

She's the clueless fucknit who sang the Star Bangled Banner, she has the midwestern all-america girl look, she loves her parents and her pets.

And since America couldn't give a flying fuck whether or not she can sing, or has any talent, of course she would win.

[Texasgal]

17. Agreed,....

Fuck it.. the show is bullshit.

[Maddy McCall]

19. Her voice fucking grates me.

I can't believe she won.

[Bread and Circus]

41. Exactly. When she hits the high notes, I want to run for the other room.

She literally sounds like a bag of shitballs to me.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

60. Her voice annoys the heck out of me too. She never even should

have been in the final four.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

24. Yeah and she sang all the right wing code songs last night

lots of Jesus and jingoistic crap last night

[Rabrrrrrr]

31. Yep, and that's all that matters.

"Yeah, but she's such a nice girl, and I know that because she sang about America and how Jesus loves everyone and killing towel-head filth and how our military is God's right hand."

[Catch22Dem]

33. I love ya, but you're way off

Two of them were written for the show, and sucked. You're right about them, but she didn't pick them. The one song she did pick was about a woman removing herself from an abusive relationship, Independence Day. Not the kind of jingoisic Independence Day you might be thinking of.

I read somewhere tonight she was a page for a Democrat. I read it here, don't know if it's true.

[Orangepeel]

36. she's also not boycotting the Dixie Chicks

so she can't be too much of a fundie if she is one at all.

[Catch22Dem]

38. Yeah, not only did she sing a Chicks song, but it was Sin Wagon

with the line "mattress dancin', yeah I said mattress dancin'" Best part...she did it on FAUX hahahahahahaha. :rofl:

Any fan of the Chicks is a friend of mine.

[LeftyMom]

15. I blame PETA

and thier evil vegan vote rigging conspiracies. I hope President Kucinich launches an investigation.

Oh wait, nevermind.

[bigwillq]

16. YIPPEE!

I am so excited!:bounce:

[Catch22Dem]

21. Bo fans should be very glad. Hear me out...

The AI winner is under a 2 year contract where they basically determine every move you make. This is good for Carrie because she'll have 2 years of people shaping her into a performer.

Bo, on the other hand, doesn't need that. Bo's a star RIGHT NOW. He'll be under a 1 year contract, and he'll be free to move on and move up. Don't cry for Bo. 2nd place is much better for him. Is it justified? Well there's a debate, but there's definitely karmic justice here.

Don't hate Carrie though.

[Maddy McCall]

22. I wish he would have bowed out before the final

He would have had street creds as a rocker then. Right now, he's just another plastic AI "star."

[susanna]

42. His street cred is fine with me...?

He wowed me after only watching a couple shows, as I am in no way a regular viewer...I watched for a work pool. Great, amazing magnetism. A honest-to-goodness, soulful rocker after years of manufactured corporate crap. It was like finding water in the desert...well, maybe not that good. ;-)

My consolation is that the voting public saw how great he was to put him in the final two. Maybe his "hippie" hair bothered 'em, I don't know, but they knew star quality up until the final showdown. That, to me, is a comforting thought. Does that make sense?

[cornermouse]

32. Bo didn't have to sing a wimpy song that they would have

cooked up for him either. Bo's got something that Carrie doesn't.

Also did you see that shot of Simon at the end of Bo's performance tonight? He was on his feet, eyes shining (probably seeing mounds and mounds of money made by managing Bo's appearances in his own future).

[LizW]

46. I liked Simon's reaction to Bo

Crabby weirdo that he is, Simon seemed to genuinely like Bo, and respect him. It was nice what he said to Bo last night.

Bo is a professional already, and being on this show is going to boost his existing career into a really big career.

Carrie is a beautiful, beautiful girl, and she fits the fairy tale better than Bo. American Idol is about taking the unknown and making a star.

I wanted Bo to win, but I'm not upset. He'll do great.

[susanna]

47. Oh yeah...that was the funny part...

On his feet dancing and clapping for Bo, but rooting for Carrie (for whose performance he was sitting down). What's up with that? Bo brought down the HOUSE which is why I am sure they put him and L/S on last...

[susanna]

37. I pretty much agree with you.

It's interesting you posted this, because I told my husband last week that "she needs the win; it will make her a much better performer. He doesn't, he's that good already."

I thought she had a lot of guts AND heart, a decent voice, and I'm sure she's real sweet, but everything she sings sounds the same to me. She emotes, but not soulfully. She just seemed kind of plastic, but I guess that's what sells these days...?

Congratulations to her and her fans. As for me, I am SO buying Bo's first CD, no questions asked. Keep in mind that this from someone who really dislikes AI in general, and only tuned in because I caught Bo performing one day and said, "well, now, who is THIS?" ;-)

[BattyDem]

23. I can't stand her!

There's nothing "special" about her - no originality, no individual style - she's generic. :-(

[johnnie]

30. Not like Bo isn't?

She is a 21 year old that has never had a minute of training and basically just walked off her farm to try out for the show. She did pretty good.
Bo is a lifelong musician that is hitting 30 years old this year and is about as good as a million other singers that play every weekend in every city across America on any given weekend night.
I don't understand why people think that "American Idol" is some sort of presidential election, it is a talent contest that is all about "mediocrity". There are a lot of really talented people on this planet, it doesn't end at American Idol.

[Bread and Circus]

43. Bo's phrasing and tone are exceptional and his taste in music

deserves credit.

The guy fucking covered Jim Croche!!!!

Jim Croche is a fucking god in my eyes.

[BattyDem]

50. I agree. Bo chose AWESOME songs!

I really do love his taste in music. Even though he wasn't my favorite AI rocker, I'd still buy his CD. :-)

[susanna]

51. You and me both...

...and he is NOT easy to cover. That kinda blew me away with Bo...he has GUTS.

[johnnie]

54. I agree

He knows his music.

[BattyDem]

44. I'm a Constantine fan, not a Bo fan

At least Con was interesting ... and adorable! :loveya:

I was rooting for Bo over Carrie because it would have been nice to have a rockin' Idol for a change and I do like his voice ... but honestly, I didn't really care one way or the other.

If you're a Carrie fan ... I'm happy for you. :toast:

[johnnie]

53. Not that I am a fan

The thing is: I have been playing, writing, recording and producing rock for 20 odd years. I have many friends in the business and I'm not too shabby on what I do.
I picked Carrie to win it the day I saw her on the auditions. American Idol is a "pop music" show and that's all it is.
I would have loved to see a "rocker" win it, but rock is an attitude and not to be accepted by the masses.
I live 10 minutes away from the Rock Hall of fame and have yet to go there. I don't think true rockers should give a shit about talent contests and acceptance.
I think Bo was OK, just not an "American Idol". That's all. I was in favor of either winning because if it was Carrie then i knew I picked the right one from the get go and if it was Bo then I would have been glad that my "forte" got a lot of attention., It was a win/win for me either way..lol.
It's just a show:)

[susanna]

57. Thank you for that insight...

...you know your genre! That's how I felt; I told my husband I wanted Bo to win, but I knew he probably couldn't. He was too untamed, too "rock star" for the masses. I'm glad I was onto something only an insider should know. ;-)

edited because sometimes I don't spell very well

[Democrat 4 Ever]

48. Everyone has an opinion. I thought Bo was a two-bit, wannabe

rock star from the very beginning. He tried so hard to "act" the part of rocker bad boy but just couldn't carry it off. It didn't help that he couldn't sing, dress, talk or even carry a tune in a bucket with a lid on it. To me he was a SNL parody each week playing with that dern microphone stand. And each week I was sure he was gone. I'm not a country music fan (and hell, I, for sure, can't carry tune in a bucket...) but Lynard Skynard is much better without that dude - Bo couldn't even warble through a country classic without detracting from it. Couldn't believe he got past the second round. So many other people were so much more deserving.

Is my opinion more valid than yours, of course not, just different stokes for different folks. I just think you were very harsh on the winner and thought you might not like to hear that some people think your favorite wasn't all the great. Always amazes me on these "reality" shows everyone is convinced the "fix" is in when their particular favorite doesn't win. Apparently there were millions who thought Carrie did a fantastic job. Did I vote for her, nope. Didn't vote for anyone, but I definitely thought she was the much better of the two.

And no, it didn't have a thing to do with either one of their looks. She could sing and he couldn't. JMHO

[springhill]

58. You are full of crap..............

You just didn't like him. It had nothing to do with his singing ability. Now, maybe you don't like his style, but your total dissing of his talent rings totally false with me.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

61. You missed the point - everyone has different tastes. I truly

meant everything I said about Bo. His voice was pitchy, there was no volume, his weak vocals, and he pranced around in a silly affect that any minute I thought he was going to strip down to his skivvies and launch into a Tom Cruise "Risky Business" prance. I do not know the guy so the only thing I can base any of MY opinion on is HIS performances. Truly think the guy is no singer. Performer, maybe. That said, will he be successful? Probably. There are plenty of "singers" today who are extremely popular and successful that have absolutely nothing to do with whether they can sing or not. The current crop of "pop" stars have limited singing ability but extremely successful press agents - so Bo will fit right in. I have nothing against this guy, I don't know this guy but what I saw wasn't "star" material. I can't imagine any recordings he will do in the next 2-3-5-10 years will stand the test of time. Flash in the pan with a mike stand.

Carrie, I don't know. She has a long ways to go before coming a star but at least she is starting with the ability to sing, only she and her "handlers" can try to get the full potential out of her voice or she can go back home to Oklahoma and live her white bread, puppy dogs and country life.

We are never going to agree but please don't try to tell me how I think about anything. Of course my opinion rings false to you - it is totally antithetical of what your opinion is but it is just as valid as your support of Bo. You think he can sing, I don't. No major live altering crisis here, just two people who don't agree.

[cornermouse]

59. Carries sings well and people think "that's nice" and move on

to the next performer without pause.

Bo can grab people's attention and pull them to their feet. That's the real difference.

[Orangepeel]

28. 1) not fixed; 2) a good thing

Bo is much better, but I'm sure Carrie got more votes. A teenage girl of my acquaintance voted for her 40 times. I'm sure teenaged girls across the country did the same thing.

Besides, did you want Bo to be forced to release that awful "Heaven" song? Blech.

[Catch22Dem]

34. My point exactly

See my post above. I pretty much said the same thing. Bo's WAAAAY better off not winning. No fix, my daughter voted A LOT. Teenage girls with their cellphones are much more prone to vote over and over and over than typical BO fans.

[Orangepeel]

35. GMTA!

:D

[Catch22Dem]

39. Damn straight :)

[Bread and Circus]

45. Word on that. That "inside your heaven" song is total shit.

[susanna]

52. Oh, so it's not just me...

that song makes NO sense at all; it's just plain freaky. It really says nothing at all very sweetly, IMHO.

So it was an AI-inspired song? (Forgive me for my stupid questions, I'm not a normal AI viewer but tuned in for Bo the last few weeks.)

[Bread and Circus]

55. It has all sorts of Bible references to it. I love Jesus (the man) but

the song freaks me out.

I think Jesus would have voted for Bo though. :)

[susanna]

56. And HE would know another original, you'd think.

;-)

[fluffernutter]

49. blech is right.

i'm so glad he's not stuck having to sing what they want, where and when. i'll buy his CD when it comes out, can't say the same for Carrie though.