I understand the distrust towards "real ID"

[JAbuchan08]

but national ID's seem to work in European countries. Pretty much everyone over there has to carry papers, right?
Would it really kill us to have a standardized national ID?

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. Yes.

This is America. We don't play that shit.

It will be abused.

[JAbuchan08]

2. Yeah... but... the Europeans have standardized ID's

I realize there's a lot of potential for abuse. So, instead of having all our information linked to one card it could be spread among multiple documents.

[EC]

3. And they are all different sovereign countries

we are one. It would be a bit different if each state were a country with different rulers and societies and laws...

[tjdee]

4. What do they not know about us right now that they need to know?

Carrying so many papers is fucking ridiculous with all the internets and databases they have today.

Whatever they need to know about me can be found out through my driver's license and my ss #.

I've not seen any evidence that they need MORE info from people.
It's a little too Nazi Germany for my tastes.

[aeolian]

5. We already HAVE the european model

We have 50 soverign states issuing their own standard ID's. The EU has 25.

ReadID is the equivalent of a EuropeID. I don't think either side of the Atlantic would really go for that.

[JAbuchan08]

6. Oh, Ok. maybe I should consider changing my user name to callowyouth

Maybe I accidentally became a fascist. I didn't mean to, seriously.

[mark414]

7. it's the principle of it

i personally wouldn't have that much to worry about, so generally the logic that follows is "so if you don't do anything wrong what's the big deal?"

the big deal is that it is another example of government becoming more controlling over the lives of the citizens that they are supposed to represent.

the founding fathers were afraid of big government for exactly these reasons. it is unnecessarily intrusive into the lives of citizens.

[El Fuego]

8. We already have to use SS numbers and our state issued drivers licenses

which are already a kind of unofficial national ID. So I don't see how a national ID card is a stretch. I guess there is some Orwellian hysteria about it.

[Redstone]

9. I don't give a red rat's ass what they do in Europe;

it ain't happening here.

At least not to me. Nobody has my fingerprints now, and they're not getting them anytime in the future, either.

Redstone