Question for Guinness lovers

[bif]

I bought a case of Guinness a while back. All over the case it said "Imported" and "St. James Gate Brewery." So I bought it as a treat for something like $25 a case. When I got home I looked even closer and noticed it said "Brewed under the direction of the St. James Brewery in Canada. How sneaky is that? Man was I angry. It just isn't as good and it should be about 1/2 the price since it's from just over the border. They've done similar things with Fosters Lager and Ale. I never buy those anymore either. About the only Guinness I'm sure comes from Ireland is the draught stuff in the tall cans. But I'm sure that'll change.any Guinness overs bothered by this?

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

1. Do you mean lovers of Goddess of Guinness, of which I am

one? Or Guiness lovers, as in Alec Guiness, which I suppose he was pretty good in most of his films, but never rose to "love" for me at least.
Or, do you mean, the elixir of life, sustainer of Irish Mankind, the nectar of the Emrald Isle, dark and delicious, thick as oatmeal, and twice as tasty (not to mention better for ya--and it gets you drunk) brew known as Guiness Stout?


Just wondering.

[Johnyawl]

20. Alec Guiness...I suppose he was pretty good in most of his films

me thinks the helmet laws came too late to help you. :D

[GoddessOfGuinness]

24. Awwwwww shucks...

Have a pint! :beer:

[mac56]

2. Nothing new here.

According to their website, Guinness is brewed in 51 countries around the world. A company that size with such a unique and distinct product has got to be concerned about QC: it's their franchise. So relax and enjoy. Don't worry about where it's brewed.

[Dr.Phool]

3. Guess What?

Fosters Australian Beer is also brewed in Canada by Molsen:toast:

[mac56]

4. And Castlemaine is brewed in Colorado by Coors.

nm

[bif]

6. Sure, and Lowenbrau is brewed by Miller

It ain't the same, I tell ya!

[mac56]

8. not any more -

Lowenbrau is now import only. Miller doesn't make it domestically anymore.

[bif]

9. True

It was for far too long. I love the Swiss Lowenbrau when I can get it.

[StopTheMorans]

5. buy Murphy's Irish Stout:)

better aftertaste, much smoother. A quote I read while in Ireland:

"An Irishman is just a machine for turning Guinness into urine; which, as any Murphy's drinker knows, is a superfluous process"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA:) I LOVE MURPHY'S, and I'm actually going to an Irish bar right down the street from where I work in 20 minutes to drink it (sorry, I'm giddy with the prospect of leaving work early:)

[bif]

7. Is the Murphys from Ireland?

Or brewed over there?

[mac56]

11. Beamish is good too.

Also brewed in Ireland.

Domestically, Sierra Nevada makes a good stout.

[StopTheMorans]

12. from Ireland

I was in the brewery, I love it! Try it, it is sooooooooooooo much smoother than Guinness (don't try Beamish, it sucks:)

[mac56]

13. C'mon now!

Give it a chance.

[StopTheMorans]

14. sorry, I saw your post right after I'd made mine:)

no knock intended:) when i was in cork, i actually stayed right across the quay from the beamish brewery, i could see it out my window. I just don't like the taste of it, don't like the finish either. Just MHO:)

[mac56]

16. No problem - More for me!

Though Murphy's is very good too.

[SpaceCatMeetsMars]

10. Murphy's is the best! n/t

n/t

[Robb]

15. Murphy's is dang good

Although sometimes you just have to have a G.

As was said above, don't worry too much about where they brew it. The secrets of brewing a beer that tastes the same at different locations are among the most guarded for brewmasters... and the most difficult to learn. With a brand like the mighty G, have no fear. They know what they're doin'!

:)

[bif]

19. The water is very inportant.

So while it might taste similar, they don't use the same water. Plus, it shouldn't be $25 buck a case if it isn't coming from Ireland. I thing the Guinness in the cans with the CO2 cartriges is amazing. Almost as good as Guinness on tap. I could drink about 20 of them right now.

[Johnyawl]

17. Beer has a shelf life...

...it does not improve with age as wine does. which is why all those companies look for 'local breweries' to license to make their product. The less time in transit, the more time that six-pack can sit on the shelf, before it has to be pulled.

I once had a friend who was a beer & wine salesman, and he explained all that to me.

[chookie]

18. Lots of things make me angry about Guinness

I am a terrible Guinness snob -- having living in Ireland for a number of years, having imbided the stuff fresh in Dublin, having learned how to properly dispense one at a pub, etc.

For one thing -- Americans (the BARBARIANS!!!) chill it here. YUK! For one thing, it is meant to be served at room temperature (albeit Irish room temperature, not Miami's). And they don't know how to dispense it here, or even pour it from a bottle properly -- and yes, it does make a difference.

The bottled stuff is okay; the stuff in the special cans is pretty good -- but if you love the stuff, go to Ireland, where it really does taste like ambrosia. Ain't nothing like the real thing -- and Guinness is one of life's delights that does not travel well from its place of origin.

[luckyluke]

21. Not supposed to be chilled?

So why does the can say to chill for at least 3 hours?

[GoddessOfGuinness]

23. The can is designed

for people who don't want to taste their stout.

Seriously...try it at room temp. It's a totally new experience!

[GoddessOfGuinness]

22. For the most part, I agree with you...

but now and then there's a gem of a pub in the US that knows how to pour a variety of brews, and is respectful of the proper temperatures necessary to fully appreciate them.

I noticed on your profile that you're in PA. If you're in the south-central area, near the MD state line, you might want to check out a restaurant/bar on Rt 15 in Thurmont, MD (about a half hour from PA), called The Shamrock. I've yet to have an "ice cold" Guinness there; and they always apologize that it has to take so long to properly dispense the brew. It does taste better than the widget cans, and waaaaay better than the widget bottles (which recommend that you serve it "ice cold!"...ugh). Shamrock also serves the most beautiful oysters I've ever seen.

I've not yet had the chance to enjoy Guinness on its home turf; and I don't doubt that it'll be a subliminal experience when I do. :-)

[chookie]

25. Thanks for the advise

I am living in exile in SW PA, but drive south a lot, so I will definitely try this spot. It sounds like a worthy shrine for the Guinness devotee.

[Lefty48197]

26. Guiness?

:puke:

I'll take an old Mil anyday.

[Clete]

27. Well as a person, who was fond of the draft, imported from

Ireland, I couldn't imagine drinking Guinness out of a bottle. However, alas, it started making me fat so I had to stop drinking it.

[bif]

28. I've heard that they serve Guinness to patients

In hospitals in Ireland. It's that good for you! Ya gotta love Ireland.