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Tue Jun-14-05 09:17 PM
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I AM SO SORRY! Dear Lounge, Please Forgive ME! |
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Listen I believe that all people of all faiths or non-faiths will go to HEAVEN. EVERYONE IN AMERICA and in the world has a right to their religious beliefs including Scientologists.
The Gods are loving Gods that do not force us to believe in them at all. What I hope for is peace among all people. Please forgive me for my ignorance.
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Tue Jun-14-05 09:19 PM
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1. What ignorance is there in the idea that: What Ihope for is peace |
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among all people.
I would suggest that is wisdom.
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Tue Jun-14-05 09:21 PM
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but I didn't think you were one of the bashers to be honest with you.
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Tue Jun-14-05 09:25 PM
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4. In follow-up, I don't care much for religion... |
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from Scientology to Islam to Christianity. I used to attack religion frequently in the past until I realized that in times like these if I am not attack other members of the Democratic party, I need to lay off people's beliefs and let them believe. I have no answers for myself or for them. Case in point, I used to overly-critical with Mormons, but then I found out our Senate Majority Leader is Mormon. So that pretty much made me just keep off other people's religions. I do slip a bit though, but I am trying to break the habit.
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Tue Jun-14-05 09:31 PM
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5. Thank you! No one has to care about religions, but you |
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are good and honest not to be bashing.
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Tue Jun-14-05 09:25 PM
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3. I'm too busy arguing about the stupidity of |
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class warfare to know what you're talking about. So I don't think you need my forgiveness. :shrug:
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Tue Jun-14-05 09:33 PM
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6. Thank you, missb. This was just in reference to a post last night |
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that I will not post here again because it got too flamey.
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Tue Jun-14-05 09:38 PM
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Tue Jun-14-05 09:46 PM
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8. Well, I'm pretty critical of religions in general but |
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I can't be confrontational watching that dancing banana in your sig line!!
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Tue Jun-14-05 09:54 PM
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10. Thanks. It is fine to be constructively critical of some |
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aspects of religion that oppress others, but I was insulting about Scientologists and I am sorry.
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Tue Jun-14-05 09:53 PM
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9. Relax, my dear; Scientology is NOT a religion, so Jesus |
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doesn't particularly care about them, nor does he care if you offended them. (Actually, He doesn't like them very much Himself.)
Remember, Jesus did not care for charlatans. Nor should you. Nor should you worry about offending them; for these are poeple who spend their entire lives in a state of paranoid indignance, and they enjoy it.
Now, my child, it's time you get some rest, with the confidence of knowing that Jesus, good guy that he is, is NOT angry with you, his innocent child.
You havenot sinned.
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Tue Jun-14-05 09:57 PM
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11. Thank you for your kind words. Jesus LOVES everyone. |
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Scientology is a religion that gives some people a sense of belonging. I think every faith has it's oppressive parts. No faith is perfect we are humans not the Gods.
To some people Scientology gives them confidence and hope. I know very little about that faith.
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Tue Jun-14-05 11:42 PM
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20. Don't worry about your comments. |
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I have a family member who is a Scientologist. It's a fraud and a scam, pure and simple. And I don't care who knows that I said that or believe that. It's f*cked up that they can rip people off by demanding that they pay for the same knowledge that they could find on an internet site.
They deserve it.
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Tue Jun-14-05 10:00 PM
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12. Heaven, I'm in Heaven... |
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And I seem to find the happiness I seek... When we're out together dancing cheek to cheek!!
KISS for you...thanks for the dance!
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Tue Jun-14-05 10:04 PM
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13. Thanks! I love that song! |
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Tue Jun-14-05 10:07 PM
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14. You are very welcome... |
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now stop sniveling and blow your nose... You're a great dancer!
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Tue Jun-14-05 10:10 PM
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15. Thanks, but that is my banana, not me! |
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Tue Jun-14-05 10:29 PM
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16. Except $cientology is man-made. |
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God did not invent currency (thank God). Only Man would...
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Tue Jun-14-05 10:34 PM
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17. Thank you!This is a good example of constructive criticism of religion. |
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But MY comments were insulting the other night so I wanted to apologize...
I am not a Scientologist, but America is a free country. Everyone has a right to their religion. If there is any criminal element in a religion the state can help clear it up. Every faith has had it's criminals.
MY comments were not kind last night and I apologize.
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Tue Jun-14-05 11:14 PM
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18. "The Gods are loving Gods" |
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I really hope that is true, cuz i need some extra care right now. My job is still worrying me.
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Tue Jun-14-05 11:35 PM
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Please do keep us informed...We are your friends, and we will support you as best we can...
:hug:
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Tue Jun-14-05 11:44 PM
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22. Hope that gets better for you! Do keep us informed! |
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Tue Jun-14-05 11:43 PM
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Wed Jun-15-05 01:48 AM
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41. Perhaps I misunderstood |
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I was offering shelter from what seemed to me to be some dissing of your OP
:hi:
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Wed Jun-15-05 01:56 AM
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42. Thanks for the umbrella! |
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Wed Jun-15-05 01:00 AM
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23. My friend, as I told you, scientology is NOT a religion |
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It's cult and an evil one. Their main goal is to make lots of money, earthly riches and all that. I told you what happened to my friend. Would Jesus approve of their greed and their cruelty? As Redstone said, I don't think so. elshiva you were right! You are not ignorant! You know more about actual religion than most on this board. So stop apologizing. You have no reason to and, as you can see, everyone here is backing you up on this!:hug:
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Wed Jun-15-05 01:05 AM
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24. It is a belief system. Jesus does not approve of cruelty |
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whether from Muslim or Christian or Scientologist variety. I never said anything bad explicitly about Scientology only that I am Never going to be one and that people like tomatoes...
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Wed Jun-15-05 01:10 AM
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26. Would you please stop being a divider? |
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Why are you trying to turn Elshiva against some of her fellow Americans who are exercising their First Amendment rights?
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Wed Jun-15-05 01:19 AM
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28. I'm not the one engaging in personal attacks. |
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Wed Jun-15-05 01:21 AM
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29. That is right! They are entitled to their religion. |
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Scientologists have their own belief system. Protect the First Amendment!
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Wed Jun-15-05 01:26 AM
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32. You are welcome. Did you get my pm? |
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Wed Jun-15-05 01:37 AM
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Wed Jun-15-05 01:46 AM
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40. Your smilies are always funny, thanks. |
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Wed Jun-15-05 01:12 AM
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27. well if everyone's goin' then I don't wanna go. |
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the whole reincarnation thing is looking better and better. :)
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Wed Jun-15-05 01:23 AM
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30. Reincarnation is also happens, too! |
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Wed Jun-15-05 01:29 AM
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33. You've done nothing wrong, elshiva |
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If you have criticized a religion there is nothing wrong with that. Sometimes religious institutions need to be criticized. There is no institution that is perfect and therefore above criticism.
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Wed Jun-15-05 01:35 AM
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34. Thanks, but I out and out insulted the faith by saying |
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I would not be one and that they must like tomatoes. I AM so SORRY for that!
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Wed Jun-15-05 01:39 AM
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37. I wouldn't be a scientologist, either |
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I'm an atheist! I wouldn't be a part of any religion and I will freely say so. There's nothing wrong with that. Religious and non-religious people get along fine if they are secure in their beliefs.
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Wed Jun-15-05 01:42 AM
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38. That is great, thanks! All I am saying is that Scientology-bashing |
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Wed Jun-15-05 04:32 AM
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43. This was your belief when you started your thread. |
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And everyone supported you, save one bully. You know what you believe. I believe that you were right.:-)
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