The official Ohio State vs Penn State game thread

[sasquatch]

GO BUCKEYES

[n0_data]

1. I predict

Ohio State will beat Penn like sick rats..or not.

[sasquatch]

2. They should beat them like that

For cryin' out loud the 2-6 guy's.

[AWD]

3. Touchdown Lydell Ross!

NICE DRIVE...controlled the ball WELL!

[sasquatch]

4. TOUCHDOWN BUCKEYES!! 7-0 Buckeyes

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :toast: :toast: :bounce: :bounce: :party:



Offense is looking good.

[AWD]

5. Keep in mind....

....our offense has an extra player from here on out.

Chris Gamble.

The weather will not fatigue him as much in November, so he's playing LOTS of downs from now on.

[sasquatch]

7. I think Lydell is running better is all

Gamble will be a great contribution to the offense but Ross is finaly starting to run like he used to. He stoped that damn dancing around.

[sasquatch]

6. Crap! Penn State scores. The score is 7-7

:(

[sasquatch]

8. Damned flats pass Penn State 14-7

:grr:

[AWD]

9. Telegraphed that pass.....

[sasquatch]

10. What the hell is wrong with our defense

:mad:

[Momof1]

11. What the heck is going ON??

How is Ohio losing by 10 points?

[AWD]

15. First time...

This is the most the Buckeyes have been down by since January 1, 2002.

22 straight games without a double-digit deficit.

30 minutes still to play. Go Bucks! get it rolling!

[jmanjman]

12. Don't know what is going on...

But I LOVE it!!! Oh how I hate Ohio State!!!! Go Nittany Lions!!!!

[Momof1]

13. I'm a Penn State fan

But I had totally written them off this year. I can't wait for the 2nd half

[jmanjman]

16. Me too

I basically have written them off for this year but if they can hold on and beat Ohio State and put a severe damper on their title hopes... I guess this season won't be a total loss :)

[sasquatch]

14. Halftime!!!

Thank god:mad: :argh: :grr:

[sasquatch]

17. TOUCHDOWN BUCKEYES score 14-17 with PSU ahead

but not for long:evilgrin:

[sasquatch]

18. Interception!! big turnover for Ohio State

all we've got to do now is take advantage of it and score a TD or at least a field goal.

[ronzo]

19. Good.. keep us posted.

They're showing OU/OSU down here...

[sasquatch]

20. Field Goal score 20-14 PSU

:grr:

[zbird]

21. After an absolutely HORRIBLE missed interference call against Fox.

Go Lions!!!!!!!!

[sasquatch]

22. TOUCHDOWN BUCKEYES score 21-20 Ohio State

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[AWD]

23. 21-20 OSU, 1:20 to play

NOW PLAY DEFENSE!!!!!!

LET'S GO BUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AWD]

24. a 60 yard attempt.....

if he makes this, they've earned it.

[TSIAS]

25. OSU pulled it out

No way the PSU kicker was gonna hit a 60 yard FG.

[AWD]

28. It was damn close

...and this friggin' announcer is talking like his range is 63 yards. The kid had NEVER made any kick longer than 53 yards, and that was 4 years ago.

But the kid scared the hell out of me.

[sasquatch]

41. Hey! That kid's got one HELLUVA leg

I think he should be their kicker for now in if they want to win.

[AWD]

46. He sure should be!

I was pretty nervous heading into that kick.....

[AWD]

26. BUCKEYES WIN!!!! BUCKEYES WIN!!!!!!

PHEW!!!!!

[VermontDem2004]

29. No they didn't

The refs did, it was completely bad call which gave Ohio State another chance. The refs are the real winners, I am sure they made alot of $$ from this game.

[sasquatch]

32. Would you like some cheese to go with that whine?

:evilgrin: That's payback officiating for the Iowa game.

[VermontDem2004]

34. I am stating a fact

The refs gave a HUGE break to Ohio State, it isn't whining, it's the truth.

[sasquatch]

37. Gee thanks Mr. Obvious

I think we all know that officiating sucks in College Football and I think they should have instant replay for sure.

[VermontDem2004]

43. Yes but he blatantly dropped that ball

I could've made that call looking out of my airplane window 600 feet up in the air.

[sasquatch]

71. how do you "blatantly" drop a ball?

I don't think he intended to drop the pass but I could be wrong he could be another Art Schliester and has some debts that neede to be paid. Besides the Penn State guy was on him like white on paper plate and in a snow storm. I think that was pass interference as well.

[VermontDem2004]

78. My point was this

The dropped ball was so obvious that I could've made the call 600 feet up in the air.

[sasquatch]

81. evedintaly not

because the ref that was five yards away didn't call it. The announcer's didn't see it until they got the replay's.

[VermontDem2004]

87. The announcers also yelled the ref was looking right at him

So the refs knew they made a bad call but didn't do anything about it. Plus what I said was sarcasm, my point was the call was so obvious that the refs should've made that call.

[sasquatch]

95. For crying out loud they won!!

GET OVER IT!!

[AWD]

38. That scoreboard I'm looking at says differently

[VermontDem2004]

40. Do scoreboards score bad calls?

Penn State is the winners, I am surprised you are willing to say Ohio State outplayed Penn State and won when you know for sure (if you were watching the game) it was a bad call.

[AWD]

44. Even IF they made the right call....

It would have been 4th down. The next play gained 13 yards for Ohio State. First down, Buckeyes.

Winners move on, whiners cry and cry about the previous play.

And Penn State did NOT win the game, no matter hard hard you blow your nose into that tissue.

Ohio State 21
Penn State 20

[VermontDem2004]

49. Wrong the refs handed OSU the game

Say I was in a contest and instead of winning the $2,500 dollars the manager of the contest just hands it to me. Same difference, OSU didn't win, the Refs gave it to them.

[AWD]

56. Geez, just get a fuckin' tissue

...because your whining isn't going over well.

Ohio State won. After the bad call, they kept going and won. They didn't hand the ball back to the refs and ask for clemency.

ASU would have done the same thing, except it's highly unlikely that ASU would have actually WON the game.

[VermontDem2004]

60. I am not whining I am stating facts

You keep telling me all of this pointless shit that doesn't mean anything, my point is Ohio State "won" off of a bad call you can tell me about all this shit that I allready know (After the bad call, they kept going and won. They didn't hand the ball back to the refs and ask for clemency.) It doesn't take away anything from the point that Ohio State benefitted from a blatantly bad call.

[AWD]

64. Ohio State won

Ohio State won
The refs blew a call
They will be paid the same amunt they always are.
You are sounding insane

These 4 are ALL facts. Get a tissue, blow your nose, and move on.

[VermontDem2004]

69. Ok I am sounding insane?

Get a tissue, blow your nose, and move on? Nice points to make in an argument.

Here are the facts

Ohio State "won" because the zebras gave them free yardage.

[AWD]

73. You sound insane.....

....because you claim they did it for extra money.

[VermontDem2004]

75. Alright whatever

[sasquatch]

79. I hate to tell you this but referee's have made bad calls before

They're made in pro football, college football and High School football. It's going to happen and you can either feel sorry for yourself or suck it up and win the game. PSU obviously just wanted to give up after that and accept the loss.

[VermontDem2004]

80. I know

But MY POINT, OSU "won" because they were given free yardage, it's a fact.

[sasquatch]

83. No they didn't win because of "free yardage" from the referee's

They won because the Penn State defense couldn't keep them out of the end zone. That's why they won.

[VermontDem2004]

85. But Penn State didn't give up what 13 yards

off of a pass "completion". In the end they couldn't keep them out of the endzone but they wouldn't off been in that situation if it wasn't for free yardage.

[sasquatch]

92. Are you a Browns fan BTW?

Jesus it never ends with you does. Hell the Browns would've been in the playoffs if it wasn't for a bad call a couple of years ago. Does that count as Browns win? No it was counted as a loss because they were a few points behind when the game was over. Where the Browns fas pissed? Yes and justly so. Did I think it got out of hand afterwards? Yes Do I think the owners and GM should apologize? 60% yes/40% no. You understand now.

[VermontDem2004]

96. No not a Browns fans

But I thought you were a Bengals fan, but I just say forget it, what happened is over with and I just made my point and people misunderstood it. Things just would've been alot different if the refs made the right call but this is just an argument that college football should have instand replay. I remember the one year before instant replay was brung in to the NFL there was bad calls up and down the league, the Cardinals lost 2 games due to really bad calls in the last seconds, I remember sold out the cardinals were hosting the Cowboys at home and Plummer throws a fade to the back of the endzone, Sanders catches it in mid-air but was pushed out of bounds and you know by NFL rules that if you are inside the endzone but the player pushes you out of bounds while you are in mid-air it is a catch. But can we please just forget this argument, what happened is over with.

[sasquatch]

99. I am a Bengals fan

but I also like the Browns except whe they play the Bengals. I feel like this because they were named after Paul Brown and he founded and owned the Bengals up till his death. After his death he gave it to his good for nothing son that spent 14 years doing everything he could to destroy the Bengals.

[VermontDem2004]

100. Sounds like the Cardinals

Bidwell(don't know his first name) was a successfull owner with the Cardinals, they have been to two NFL Championships and won 1 and were very good team in the early 70's but then his son Bill Bidwell took over after his death and nothing but 25 years of failure, of course they had a few great seasons but nothing more, he trades developing players before they reach their potential and sign over-the-hill NFL greats which is basically a recipe for disaster.

[sasquatch]

52. Would've, Should've and Could've don't mean shit pal!

I hate to break it to you but almost only counts in horseshoe's and hand grenade's. If anyone is to blame it's the Penn State defense yes the Buckeyes got a first down on a bad call but, the Penn State defense gave up after that and let the backup QB score on them. That's why they lost, they gave up. Good teams can overcome bad officiating like Ohio State did against Iowa.

[VermontDem2004]

55. There were 2 bad calls on the final drive which OSU benefited

The facts are the refs made alot of $$ off of the OSU "win".

[AWD]

58. Oh, so now it was about money???

Wow. You're starting to look insane.

Just get a tissue, suck it up, and move on. Ohio State won. Say it with me and move on.

Ohio State won.

[VermontDem2004]

72. There you go with the tissue point

You don't think refs bet on games? You hear about coaches and players all the time so why not the refs? Nothing is insane talking about the issue of gambling and college football.

[Ohio Dem]

84. The line was 7.5 or 8, depending on who you bet with.

OSU won (yes, won) by one. Even if the refs deliberately blew the call, Ohio State still didn't cover. So you're saying that the refs were trying to get OSU two touchdowns on the play? That's the only way the refs cover their bet.

[Ohio Dem]

88. Washington State just forced a fumble, but the refs blew the call

and ruled it an incompletion. USC kicked a FG. If USC wins, they didn't win. Right?

[sasquatch]

30. He is it me or does it seem that....

Tressel unuasuly struggles against Penn State? Maybe he's a little intmidated by Joe Pa.

[VermontDem2004]

31. Tressel struggles virtually against every team

But then the magic pixie dust kicks in the 4th quarter and Ohio State ends up pulling it off.

[sasquatch]

35. They're a fourth quarter football team

Plus it's only his third year he's done pretty damned good with a team that according to John Cooper "didn't have enough talent to win".

[AWD]

36. But he WINS.....he WINS

Tressel wins

THAT is the fact

[sasquatch]

27. WE WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Nice job McMullen

[VermontDem2004]

33. That was a bad fucking call

I hate it when the refs do something that favors the other team. I wouldn't be posting ASU WON!!!!! in this thread if they got a huge break Ohio State did.

[AWD]

39. The refs blew a call....

...what, was OSU supposed to hand the ball back and say "sorry, we didn't catch the ball."

ASU would do the same thing...keep quiet and go on to win.

Find me a team that would give back that catch and THEN we'll talk.

[VermontDem2004]

42. I know ASU would've done the same thing

I just wouldn't be typing ASU WON!!!!!!!!!! because I don't personally accept wins off of bad calls.

[AWD]

45. Wow, what an amazing person you are

We should all bow down to your awesome morality.

[VermontDem2004]

47. Yes you should

I did not know morality meant anything in this discussion, my point is how in your mind do you think OSU won? Ref made a bad call and OSU beniffeted.

[Ohio Dem]

50. They had more points when the clock ran out.

That's how I think they won. What standard do you use?

Sheeesh.

[VermontDem2004]

54. I use a standard of judging a game from all views

Like when the reciever blatantly dropped the ball and the refs "missed" it. I look at all factors, you just look at the scoreboard.

[AWD]

59. I keep looking for the standings....

...the ones thatread "Wins - Losses - Wins in which the refs gave it to you"

I can't find them. Maybe they only exist in your mind.

[VermontDem2004]

63. They don't have to create standings for that

But on a mind level you know OSU was handed the ball game to them.

[AWD]

77. No, Ohio State had ONE PLAY handed to them

They won the game because they pushed the ball over the goal line three times.

I'm pretty sure that3 TDs were not handed to them.

[VermontDem2004]

82. So free yardage in the final drive wasn't a factor?

[Ohio Dem]

66. I saw Will Smith get held on a big PSU gain.

A blatant hold. Even those announcers (Cunningham is a big OSU hater from way back) said he was held. If that last field goal would have been good, I wouldn't be on here claiming that Ohio State actually won because of a bad no-call from the officials (PSU scored later in the drive).

Why wouldn't I be claiming an OSU victory? Because if the field goal would have been good, Penn State would have had more points. That's how you determine the winner in a football game. It's not a really complicated process.

Edited the title line because I can't type or something.

[AWD]

68. No, there's new rules

...apparently only the LOSERS can whine. And if the refs are not robotically perfect, NOBODY wins.

new rules.

[Ohio Dem]

76. Thanks for clarifying.

I don't like it when I don't get the memo when the rules change.

Next thing you know, you'll see a thread saying that the refs screw Penn State in an effort to force them from the conference. Well, maybe it's just that they were bribed. :eyes:

[AWD]

51. OSU won because they picked up more points

You play by the rules. If the men who enforce the rules blow one, you don't go back to that point and start over.

You play on, and you win or you lose. Ohio State played on and won.

Would you like to go back through every game in the history of football and revamp everybody's records based on the referees?

I'm SURE the Big Ten will release a statement during the week stating that it wasn't a catch. But they will NOT take the win away from Ohio State.

they WON, and it STAYS a win. Period.

[VermontDem2004]

57. That isn't my point

My point is OSU benefited from a bad call, you can tell me all this pointless shit that don't mean nothing but OSU "won" off of a really bad call.

[AWD]

61. OSU won

OSU won
The refs blew a call

Both CAN exist in the same universe.

[VermontDem2004]

65. I KNOW

You keep telling me pointless shit I already know. This can exist in the same universe too

OSU won
off of a bad call

[AWD]

70. Thank you!!!!!!

OSU won

Thank you for FINALLY admitting it.

We BOTH have been saying the same thing.

OSU won.
The refs blew a call.

Find me the asterisk in the NCAA standings, or go away.

[VermontDem2004]

74. There you go with more pointless shit

MY POINT WHICH IS HARD FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!!!

The refs gave OSU free yardage and OSU benefitted. They will not put an asterisk in the standings and I never said they would so quit putting words that I never said.

[sasquatch]

97. Gee, will you let it go!!

Look there are something's that you're going to have to come to grips with=



*We've got a unelected, bloodthirsty, moron in the White House.
*Up is UP and Down is Down.
*Officials make bad calls.
*Most importanly thoughOHIO SATE WON THE PENN STATE GAME

I hope you've got it by now :)

[VermontDem2004]

98. I think I already did

See post #96 or #97. I know all about the top 3 so quit talking to me like I am a child, but my point is OSU benefitted from a bad call but if you disagree with it ok! I just want to talk about something else and wish I never brung it up.

[Ohio Dem]

48. A win is a win.

But that game shouldn't have been that close. That's why they play 'em, though. Think Ohio State was looking ahead a little? I do, no matter what they say.

Way to go Scott McMullen!!

[AWD]

53. No, they weren't looking ahead

Penn State just played the best game of the year for them.

Quite simply put, that big target on our backs that goes with any team defending a National Championship is a bitch. Penn State saw it, and took aim.

And we drove the final drive with our backup QB and our backup RB. Ross got hurt on the first play of that final drive, remember.

[sasquatch]

62. Good news!! Georgia lost so we're movin' up in the polls

:bounce::toast:

[AWD]

67. No, Georgia won!

It seems that the refs spotted the ball poorly on a play in the 3rd quarter, so Florida DIDN'T win.

If the refs are not robotic and perfect, EVERYTHING is tainted and NOBODY wins.

New Rules, so I'm told.

[sasquatch]

86. LOL...I guess I missed the memo on that

;)


It was beside George W Bush's proof that Saddam was behind 9/11 in the mail. Oh damn I guess I'll just have look harder from now on.

[Darth_Ole]

89. AWD, you completely and totally missed VermontDem's point..

The reason that this play is controversial is because OSU is driving late in the game and if that call is ruled correctly, OSU is facing 4th Down.

He meant PSU *should* have won.

OSU is just lucky. They are a lucky team. Ever since last year, they've been competitive because they benefit from missed calls, they catch lucky Hail Maries, and opposing teams do things like drop winning touchdowns. OSU hasn't earned a whole lot.

[Ohio Dem]

91. No, AWD would concede that OSU got lucky.

So would I. "Should have lost" and "Did in fact lose" are two different things.

That's all I'm sayin'.

AWD, feel free to clarify your own position. I don't mean to speak for you on this.

[AWD]

94. No, they were lucky every single play

You know when Miami had it 1st-and-goal at the one yard line? Miami players tripped on 4 straight plays. Ohio State didn't tackle anybody, they just got lucky when the players fell down.

When we intercepted the ball on the last play against Michigan? Will Allen was actually trying to tie his shoes and the ball fell into his hands.

37-yard pass against Purdue? There were 10 defenders on Jenkins, and they ALL caught the ball. But the refs rules a TD, and then went back and changed the game footage.

Penn State last year? Gamble didn't intercept that TD. He meant to run the otherway, but got confused and we won by mistake.

Illinois last year? We TRIED to get sacked on third down, but Krenzel's 13-yard run was an accident. he thought he was out of bounds. Pure luck.

No, we've never earned a damn thing. All luck. Pure and simple.

[AWD]

93. *Lucky* doesn't win you 22 out of 23

You HAVE to be good to win that many games.

Hail Marys are not usually 37-yard passes (that's how long the Purdue TD was). I know you want to believe it...but a 37-yard-pass into one-on-one coverage is NEVER called a Hail Mary. It's called a "forward pass".

They've been competitive because they are indeed a good team. How many fucking games does a team have to win to get respect anyway?

And we've earned every win, because we WON every game.

[VermontDem2004]

90. I didn't say the refs were robotic and perfect

But anyone could've made that call, it wasn't like a play were a player fumbled while his knees were inches away from the ground and the refs could've made a mistake. The OSU player dropped it immediately the second the ball hit his hands.