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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 04:46 PM
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Dallas vs Washington Game Thread
Edited on Sun Nov-02-03 04:46 PM by Cush
Washingron leads 6-0, Coles with a TD, extra point blocked.

Redskins just had it 3rd and 1....and they run a pass play. And what happens? Ramsey gets sacked for the 3rd time....and its still the 1st quarter!
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 04:57 PM
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1. Cowboys offense looks horrible
The Boys are lucky they have a great defense or otherwise they would be behind big.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 04:59 PM
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2. Dallas looks like Washington
Turnovers, penalties, etc
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 05:18 PM
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3. You know
Washington would be a lot better off if the NFL went from 4 downs to 3. Washington always allows the opposing teams to convert on 3rd an long
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 06:00 PM
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7. Send them to the CFL...LOL
The CFL only uses 3 downs, and I think overall a more exciting game.

But I am pulling for my beloved Redskins to pull through this one.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 05:26 PM
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4. this is more like it
Edited on Sun Nov-02-03 05:30 PM by Cush
Dallas has it 4th and goal and lines up for a FG, Wash gets called for a Personal FOul before the frggin snap

DAllas gets it first and goal....TD Dallas
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 05:55 PM
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5. Ramsey hit again
and looks like he has an injured hand
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 05:59 PM
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6. How many times will the Boys drop the ball in the second half?
I predict 10 times, gawd their recievers are looking embarrasing.
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 06:16 PM
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8. Is there a person on this planet that takes longer to learn then Spurrier?
YOU HAVE TO PROTECT THE QUATERBACK YOU DUMB MOTHER FUCKER! GET IT THRU YOUR FUCKIN HEAD!
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 06:17 PM
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9. Tell that to the offensive line
I am sure Spurrier has been stressing that but the blame goes on the offensive line.
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 06:26 PM
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10. Um no.
Offensive line cannot pickup blitzes on it's own. You have to keep guys in the box, that is why you have fullbacks and tightends.

Every team in the NFL uses extra blockers......except spurriers redskins.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 06:30 PM
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11. I have been watching the Redskins and their running backs cannot pick up
blitzes and it's not just the game, all the way to the Jets game and Trung Candidate could never pick up blitzes(he is not playing today) but not just with the Skins, but with the Rams and the Arizona Wildcats in college and their other rbs can't either. Plus alot of times when a team blitzes it leaves recievers opens, a qb should know the recievers routes in his mind and get rid of the ball before they get to him. Alot of the blame goes on Ramsey for holding on the ball too long, I am watching this game because it is the only NFL game on right now in this area.
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:25 PM
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35. Now why do you think that is?
When players are out of position all the time who's to blame?

The Coach.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:34 PM
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54. But alot of times the Cowboys
do overload blitzes which is impossible to stop but can be countered by a quick pass or a draw play and it is Ramsey's job to get rid of the ball, alot of times I seen him hold on to the ball to long and not step up in the pocket.
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:36 PM
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57. Quick pass or draw play? Who calls those plays?
The Coach.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 06:35 PM
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12. TD Dallas
Dallas leads 14 - 6

This team is pathetic
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 06:35 PM
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13. Lots of time and the 'Skins are only down by 8
By no means they are pathetic but they could be doing much better.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 06:47 PM
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14. um
I've watched them all year, they've been doing the same shit week in. week out.

THey'll show glimpses, but overall, they are pathetic
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 06:48 PM
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15. Nah
If they were done by 20 I would say they are pathetic, but down by 8 to a 5-2 team is not bad but they could be doing better.
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 06:50 PM
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16. THEY'VE GOT FOUR TAKEAWAYS
Edited on Sun Nov-02-03 06:50 PM by Neo Progressive
THEY SHOULD BE LEADING, NOT DOWN BY EIGHT.

I'm a dallas fan, and couldn't be happier spurrier is the skins coach.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 06:53 PM
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17. I know
Dallas D held them though. I think 3 out of the 4 times they turned it over in Redskins territory and the one time they turned the ball over in Cowboys territory the Redskins scored. But the Redskins need a QB but I don't mean the Redskins should go after someone else, Ramsey is still young and could improve, Spurrier has only been the coach for 1 and half years so it could take awhile for Spurrier to get the players he wants and once he does judge Spurrier from how he does when he has the players he needs.
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 06:56 PM
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18. 'scuse me
Parcells has been in dallas 1/2 of a year, dallas is 5-2, leading their division, and they keep saying parcells doesn't have his type of players on this team.

Parcells is a better coach than Steve, but let's be real, he's not like infinitely better.

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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 06:59 PM
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19. I agree Parcells is a better coach
Spurrier has only 1 1/2 years of NFL experience and plus the Cowboys have a very talented secondary and recieving core with solid players all around. Scuse me but Parcells has the players to succeed.
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:03 PM
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23. John Fox has been coaching in the nfl for the same amount as spurrier
Carolina is 6-2, and Carolina has the runningback spurrier had last season. Carolina's defensive line is phenomenal, however, the skins linebacking crew is the most talented right now, plus spurrier has a pretty good receiving corps too. You know what the difference between Fox and Spurrier? Fox is a good coach on a shitty team. Spurrier is a shitty coach on a good team. Spurrier is the problem. It's not Ramsey, it's not the linebackers. And as I write this TOUCHDOWN DALLAS.

Here is why spurrier is a shitty coach:

The redskins backup has never EVER thrown a pass in a regular season game. They cut rob johnson, and fucked up their signing of danny wuerful. Oh yeah, the skins didn't dress a third string qb.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:10 PM
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27. Not true
John Fox was an assistant coach for several years in the NFL, Spurrier came straight from the NCAA. Carolina is a shitty team? Rotflmao, they had a great defense even last year. Plus with the signing of Stephon Davis just made them a better team, plus were where you when the 'Skins were 3-0? There is still lots of games to be played in this season and by no means the season is over with. I did not say the linebackers were the problem, they have a great linebacker crew and Ramsey STILL NEEDS TO IMPROVE AS A QB, he is only a second year player and still has many years to improve and fit Spurrier's system. As I write this Ramsey just overthrew wide open Coles, just think if he would've caught the ball which just proves my point. Ramsey is their only flaw but can still improve.

The redskins backup has never EVER thrown a pass in a regular season game. They cut rob johnson, and fucked up their signing of danny wuerful. Oh yeah, the skins didn't dress a third string qb.

What does that have to do with anything? Ramsey doesn't get injured and alot of the transactions taken plus are due to the GM, not the coach. Like TJ said, wait till Spurrier gets the players he wants then judge him.
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 06:59 PM
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20. and bailey is shaken up
God must hate Washington. I suspect because Bush is president. If Bush gets kicked out next year, in 2005 the skins might do well ;)
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:01 PM
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21. TD Dallas
21 - 6 DAllas
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:02 PM
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22. Still plenty of time
But the way the 'Skins offense is playing it looks more like trying to come back from 31-6 then 21-6.
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:04 PM
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24. are you biased
against dallas or something? :-P
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:11 PM
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28. My comment you replied to could be determined as being
biased against Washington. I stated their is plenty of time left, if that is being biased then I don't know what isn't being biased.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:10 PM
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25. Well, there is always the showdown back at home
There is always hope if the Redskins can't come back. The Boys will have to be in DC, and it won't be pretty.

Meanwhile, I am wondering what is gonna happen next week when they play the Seahawks? I heard Matt Hasselbeck's (Seattle QB) kid brother is a backup QB for the Redskins. I hope there won't be a "Brother Act"....
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:13 PM
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30. he was the fifth string qb
for philly last year. Tim Hasslebeck has never thrown a pass. If Ramsey keeps getting hit like this, he'll eventually get injured.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:10 PM
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26. Another game about to be lost
I really thought that this year would be different. Why can't our team ever win?
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:13 PM
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29. Because Snyder sucks
I always gave him the benefit of the doubt, but he's clearly killing the team. Too bad you can't fire the Owner

If he hired a friggin GM, maybe things wouldn't be so bad....
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:14 PM
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31. Yeah
I know. I see him as being the problem.
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:24 PM
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33. I wish he would fire Spurrier
I've had it with this coach, he blames his players, and it's his fault the team is bad.

Tell me the truth if you were Patrick Ramsey would you keep playing? I would refuse and simpley state the FACT, I AM NOT PLAYING IF YOU REFUSE TO PROTECT ME. I wouldn't destroy a future lucrative career because my coach is a hard headed asshole.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:26 PM
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37. Firing Spurrier isn't the answer
The Redskins have gone through coaches every year that he has owned the team. It needs stability.

They need to give Spurier at least one more. Otherwise, by shifting coaches every year, you are not going to have a team that is consistent enough to win.
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:28 PM
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44. Who would you rather keep? Spurrier or Ramsey?
As a LONG time skins fan I know it's damn near impossible for us to find a good QB. Now we have one and our coach is on a mad mission to get him killed.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:29 PM
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50. I know
But changing coaches every year is not the answer because then you have a new system. You have to get used to a new system, develop it, and again start over.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:26 PM
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38. Like I said the running backs and fullbacks of the Redskins
Edited on Sun Nov-02-03 07:26 PM by VermontDem2004
cannot pick up on blitzes, maybe Spurrier should put on a helmet and play OL for the Redskins. Alot of times Ramsey held on to the ball too long and didn't step up into the pocket, the blame is definately on the offensive line.
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:28 PM
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47. Yes you said that but you are wrong.
They don't pick up blitz's beacuse they don't practice it. When players are out of position it the coaches fault. ALWAYS.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:31 PM
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52. Not really
Alot of times players miss their assignments and get chewed out during film study, it is the players fault they miss assignments and how do you know they don't practice it? Are you a Redskins assintant coach? Plus yes Trung Candidate (who isn't playing) had problems picking up on blitzes all the way back to college, Stephen Davis was good at picking up blitzes but Snyder released him.
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:37 PM
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60. Where is the tight end? How about 2 tight ends? 2 Backs?
Where are the paterns the PROTECT YOUR QB and stop teams from blitzing you?
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:24 PM
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32. ramsey is injured now
go hasslebeck
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:24 PM
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34. This is just sad
nt
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:25 PM
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36. Ramsey's back in
and Talyor Jacbos drops it
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:26 PM
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39. Ramsey needs to sit out and refuse to play
Until Spurrier is fired.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:26 PM
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41. lol ok
:eyes:
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:26 PM
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40. yeah
4th down now.
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:27 PM
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42. why the fuck
when it's 3rd and 8, WOULD YOU THROW A FUCKING 2 YARD PASS?
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:28 PM
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46. Lots of coaches run draw plays on 3rd and long
Mike Shannahan is one example. Sometimes a 2 yard pass will result in a much longer gain.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:27 PM
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43. Converted Crucial 4th down
Edited on Sun Nov-02-03 07:27 PM by jiacinto
nt
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:28 PM
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45. TD Washington Redskins
nt
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:29 PM
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48. Plenty of time left
Redskins can still do it.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:29 PM
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49. 2 pt conversion is good
7 point game
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:30 PM
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51. good, i need dallas to give up 14 points in my fantasy league
my opponent has dallas' defense, and i had tampa's so now he can't kill me with defense.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:33 PM
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53. It's over
Big run. 2 minute warning.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:34 PM
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56. yup
Typical, Washington scores, Defense blows it on the next Series
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:36 PM
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58. Why can't our team ever win a game?
nt
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:36 PM
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59. they suck?
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:40 PM
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62. They sure do
They had a good season and now are slated to not even come close at making the playoffs. Another losing season for the Redskins.

It gets so old.
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:34 PM
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55. HAHA
Edited on Sun Nov-02-03 07:34 PM by Neo Progressive
47 YARD RUN BY TERRY GLENN
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:38 PM
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61. I mind as well get used to losing seasons
I guess that another season is going down the drain. Why can't this team win something for once?

I am tired of waiting year after year for a good Redskin.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:47 PM
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63. Another season gone
I am just so saddened.
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