DU musical gurus: Anyone have any suggestions for angry political rock?

[prolesunited]

I will admit that I'm a musical moron. I recently "discovered" Rage Against the Machine (I know, where have I been.) and "Township Rebellion" and "Renegades of Funk" are among my new faves.

I guess I've just been feeling quite angry and raw lately so I'm looking to broaden my musical horizons. What would you recommend for a cathartic release?

Remember, angry AND political. Thanks!

[ikojo]

1. The new CD by NOFX, the War on Errorism, is pretty good...

how many songs reference Noam Chomsky?!!

[wyldwolf]

2. Electric Youth...

Debbie Gibson.

Just kidding!

[prolesunited]

4. Hey

I'm not THAT much of a musical moron. ;-)

[theemu]

3. Godspeed You Black Emperor!

There are no vocals, and yet Godspeed, a collective from Canada, puts out some of the most politically moving post-rock ever written in twenty minute epic crescendos.

Start with 'East Hastings' and then try anything off Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennae to Heaven or Yanqui U.X.O.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

54. What about Slow Riot for New Zero Kanada

Me likey.

[La_Serpiente]

5. NOFX has bene staunchly anti-war and anti-Bush

here is their website:

NOFX Website

Here is their CD:



Here is their new CD:

[qwertyMike]

6. Rage Against the Machine

[Leftist78]

40. I second that

[DebJ]

7. Jefferson Airplane "Volunteers of America", and

"We Can Be Together".....advise from my boyfriend

[Deja Q]

8. A song comes to my mind, "Bad Influence" by the B-52s

Clearly gay themed, but it's sufficiently angry.

[LTR]

9. A couple

Consolidated

Public Enemy

[proud patriot]

10. NOFX.. System Of A Down...

Tool ... Megadeth .. Limp Bizkit
also QueensRyche's Operation Mindcrime
was a reaction to the Reagon and Bush sr
years and is a must for any political music
collector .

also even if you don't like hip hop you'll
love the new Paris' CD Sonic Jihad for it's
political content .

arcane1 will know more .

[prolesunited]

11. I think he's still recovering from Halloween

He's been MIA. ;-)

Thanks for the suggestions! :hi:

NOFX seems to be a clear choice. I'll definitely start there. I hope they have it on iTunes.

[proud patriot]

13. NOFX is more punk than metal, it still Rocks though .

:hi:

[Redneck Socialist]

12. Bruce Cockburn

Folk/Rock but he seeths with righteous anger. If he wrote nothing other than "If I had a rocket launcher" he would still be one of the greatest out there. I can't think of anyone else who ever wrote a song about the IMF before either.

[RandomKoolzip]

24. Oh god! "The Trouble with Normal!"

what a great song!

"the Trouble with Normal is IT ALWAYS GETS WORSE!"

That song makes me pump my fist in the air like few others.

[nickgutierrez]

58. System of a Down is great stuff

Radiohead: "It's just business/ Cattle prods and the IMF/ I trust I can rely on your vote" -- from Electioneering.

System of a Down is solid.

A Perfect Circle takes a surprisingly strong liberal political stance (see "Pet", "The Noose" off of their latest CD).

I bought a couple of CDs by Sage Francis, who is a pretty good hip-hop artist (and I don't listen to hip-hop normally) from Amazon yesterday -- I can't wait for those to get here.

Of course, there's Audioslave, which consists of the members of Rage Against the Machine, but with Chris Cornell of Soundgarden at the helm rather than Zack de la Rocha; it's a major shift musically, a bit of a shift lyrically, but it's still very political, and very powerful.

[DBoon]

14. Dead Kennedys

the patron saints of angry political rock.

WOuld also suggest some early stuff by the Minutemen - "Buzz or Howl Under the Influence of Heat" comes to mind

[corarose]

16. Second vote for the Dead Kennedys

:kick:

[BigMcLargehuge]

19. third for the DK

buy USED copies of their albums, and only buy the ones on the Aleternative Tentacles lable.

Don't feed the Brandon Cruz and the scabs!!!

[Forkboy]

43. Another DK backer here

can't go wrong.

[jayfish]

55. Don't Forget Your Namesake.

Lard.

Jay

[Forkboy]

69. oh yeahhh

doh :)

[prolesunited]

15. NOFX available on iTunes

Songs from the following albums:
Heavy Petting Zoo
Liberal Animation
Pump Up the Valuum
Punk in Drublic
Ribbed
S&M Airlines
So Long and Thanks for All the Shoes
White Trash, Two Heebs and a Bean

I can buy the whole album or cherry pick the songs. Apparently they don't have the new one yet.

Any help in narrowing down the list.

[ikojo]

66. the wonderful thing about iTunes is that you can

request music. I don't know how successful you will be in getting NOFXs latest CD but at least that option is there.

[mitchum]

17. MC5 Angry. Political. Rock.

[durutti]

18. Here are Some

Antischism
DRI
Dead Kennedys
Crass
MDC
Napalm Death
Zounds
Angelic Upstarts
Disrupt
Discharge
Crucifix
Propagandhi
MC5
Nausea
Ministry
The Clash
Beastie Boys (later stuff)
Fugazi
Public Enemy (not rock, but still great)

[DancingBear]

20. "When I'm Gone" - Phil Ochs

Not angry per se, but an incredibly powerful song, as is most of his stuff.

Man, I wish he was still around.

[Lizz612]

21. Paris

I don't like rap that much, but if you want angry!
Guerrilla Funk "What would you do?" is free for down load. I think they spliced some Bush speeches at the begining, damn scary.

[RandomKoolzip]

22. whoops! posted twice. sorry!

[RandomKoolzip]

23. The Minutemen.

D. Boon was possibly the best political lyricist since Dylan, and he was an angry mofo. Check out "Vietnam," "This Ain't No Picnic," "Working Men are Pissed," "Felt Like a Gringo," "History Lesson," "Political Song for Michael Jackson to Sing," "Courage, "The Price of Paradise,"etc. etc.

Plus some more....
The Liars are a new band from New York who had a cool, pissed off political song on their last album called "Grown Men Don't Fall in the River Just Like That."

Gang of Four
The Pop Group
Manic Street Preachers have had some great angry anti-corporate songs in the past.
The Jam: "Funeral Pyre," "Going Underground," "Just Who is the 5 O'clock Hero?" "The Great Depression," "Bricks and Mortar," "Pretty Green," "In the City," "Scraping Away," I could go on, just go and get all their albums!

There was also a supposedly amazing British band in the late 60's called Third World War who apparently were angry communists who rocked like the MC5 and shaved their heads long befor punk rock. I've never been able to find any of their albums, though....

Oh, and also the New Bomb Turks...especially the tune "Grounded Ex-Patriot" off of the "Drunk on Cock" EP. I'd be a dick if I didn't mention this fine rock band...

[oustemnow]

72. ah yes, I second the vote for the Minutemen

great politics, excellent musicianship and, for a three-piece band, mind-bogglingly diverse.

Start with Double Nickles on the Dime; after you've picked your jaw up off the floor, explore some of their earlier stuff (there was a good compilation of their earlier stuff called My First Bells a number of years ago. DOn't know if it's still available, though.

[prolesunited]

25. Thanks all!

Lots of choices here. I appreciate the help.

:yourock: angrily, of course

[Bossy Monkey]

26. X, Hey Zeus

especially Country At War. Also Under the Big Black Sun and for that matter, the rest of their catalogue.

[thebigidea]

27. some loser

http://www.terminalproduct.com/noisespew.html

who does this guy think he is?

[vi5]

28. Crass is about as angry and as political as it gets.....

Not exactly easy listening.

If you want something supremely harsh listen to His Hero Is Gone.

[Forkboy]

44. Crass is crass

hard to listen to at first but they grow on ya...sort of like a fungus :)

[Loonman]

29. Agnostic Front

"There's no Justice, there's just us"

[vi5]

36. AF is pretty right wing if they are anything....

I love that band but don't take them too seriously from a political perspective. I know the excuse that their most RW album (Cause For Alarm) was written lyrically by Pete Steele from Carnivore and Type O Negative. But still based on a lot of interviews and on-stage banter I would say they are a definite right wing band, although not the nazzis they often got accused of being.

[Abaques]

39. Agnostic Front aren't nazis

But they sure aren't left wing. Their lyrics are pretty right wing as is their on-stage banter.

[vi5]

42. Yep, that was what I was trying to get at......

I've read interviews as well where they espouse some pretty conservative viewpoints. I dont think anything more offensive than what I hear at the dinner table with old school new york italian liberal or left wing angry political rock.

But if you remember the 80's they were always accused of being nazis, as was any band or artist who espoused anything other than a left wing party line.

[Zomby Woof]

30. Propagandhi

Get their album "How To Clean Everything". Best tune: "Stick The Fucking Flag Up Your Goddamn Ass, You Sonofabitch".

[prolesunited]

31. Judging by the title

I don't know how much angrier or political you can get.

Interesting, informative Web site as well.
http://www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/propagandhi/news.shtml

[Screaming Lord Byron]

32. Manic Street Preachers.

Come on, Glam-Rock Lefties ahoy!

[durutti]

67. They're Heroes in Cuba

When they played there, they were given a warm reception & introduced by Castro.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

68. They're probably the only people who would play Cuba

When Fidel met them, he asked if the show would be louder than war!

[prolesunited]

33. Anymore suggestions

before I compile my list and go shopping?

[Rich Hunt]

34. Gang of Four

http://www.trouserpress.com/entry.php?a=gang_of_four

[Abaques]

35. The must buys for new angry political music....

Boysetsfire

Get both After the Eulogy and Tommorw Come Today. Both are filled with angry, intelligent, and vital politically charged songs.

Really, really good stuff.



Other newer acts I would check out would include Anti-Flag (any of their stuff) and System of a Down.



For older stuff, check out the MC5 (the originals), the Dead Kennedy's, Black Flag, NOFX, Bad Religion (best lyrics), Propaghandi, Avail, Downset, Earth Crisis (alittle heavy handed, but definetly angry), older KMFDM, and Public Enemy (best hip-hop/rap group ever).

[Colin Ex]

37. I second Bad Religion.

Keep an eye out for "Recipe for Hate" and "The Gray Race."

-C

[Kolesar]

38. "London Calling" by the Clash is "the gold standard"of angry politcal rock

The Clash was a definite influence for a lot of 1990s alternative music bands. London Calling from 1980 was just a brilliant album.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

41. Yeah, "London Calling" is the greatest double album ever.

That's right. Better than the White Album and Exile on Main St (but only just). Go on flame away. Bwah hahahahahaha.

[TheBlob]

50. London Calling came out in 1979

Never the less it was still ranked as the best album of the 1980's by Rolling Stone.

Shows how good it was!

[Screaming Lord Byron]

52. There's no other rock album with such a kaleidoscopic scope.

[Rooktoven]

70. Sandinista--

London Calling may well be the greatest Rock album made, but I think Sandinsta is when they reached their political apogee.

Consider--

First the material-- Washington Bullets (Nicaragua), Police on My Back, Someone Got Murdered, The Call-Up (concerning joining a war), etc...

Then you have the fact that they insisted that this be a three record set and it was sold at a 2 album price.

The Clash are the KINGS of political rock (we miss you Joe)

[Screaming Lord Byron]

71. The annoying thing about Sandinista is

that if they had stuck to a double, not a bloody triple album, it would have beaten London Calling.

[oustemnow]

73. think of the third disc as an oddities/outtakes collection.

on that level, i't really entertaining, and weird.

[Kolesar]

76. the critics made such a balleyhoo over Springsteen's double album

The Clash released the greatest double album of all time, London Calling. Then Springsteen came out with a double album that the press and the promoters slathered praise over shamefully: "Bruce is such a talent that it takes two discs to contain all of his genius" (Nebraska or the River (?)). So the Clash, who were also on Columbia Records, decided to one-up the Boss by releasing a triple album--that will show them!

Sides 5 and 6 are pretty lame, I admit. I only listened to them a few times because I had taped the whole album. They sound like they were thrown together in a big hurry.

Rock and Roll lore, gotta love it.

[ornotna]

45. I don't know about angry

but there's alot of anti war songs here. http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/000628.html

[Dancing_Dave]

46. "99 Barrels" by Cyber Tribe

Brand new angry political rock from Boston. It's at the top of the playlist at
http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/395/break_the_bogus_911_coverup.html

Why did Bush just hang out with those elementary school kids on 9/11?
He HAD to have known what was going on.

99 Barrels of Oil on the wall...

[Forkboy]

47. Against All Authority

also early Chumbawamba (Never Mind The Ballots or Pictures of Starving Children Sell Records).I know people think they're a one hit wonder but their early stuff is absolutely incredible.

and The Ex.

Here's a sample of Chumbawamba's lyrics.After reading the mysogeny thread I think you'll appreciate this one.

Ah-men

A visionary pause in the cycle
When she refused to buy or sell
When the daughters of perfect wives
Said there must be more than sacrifice
Needed more than symbolic change
More than silent wasting away
In factories and sterile marriages
He was God, she was powerless
With a brick for every year of life
She set out for the house of lies
The old boys' club under siege
His lordship cowered under his seat
Called for brandy and reinforcements
Blasted away at every movement
Close to breaking down the door
Past thick blue line and stupid laws
Black Friday left her bruised and stubborn
One brick from winning the struggle
Rapunzel hacked at the ivory tower
Asquith quickly rose to the hour
Appealed to patriotism, oily smiles
Gave nothing, called it compromise
Gauging the situation perfectly
Said ladies, ladies, listen to me
Nineteen fourteen, we're on the brink of war
Pick up a flag, drop your cause
Your targets are counter-revolutionary
Take my hand in democracy
Here's a piece of paper
You're officially free
Here's a list of instructions
For you to obey
And here's sharp knife
To cut your own throat
Small sacrifice in return for a vote
Whispered word in Pankhurst's ear
Visions of the first woman peer
Led women down the garden path
And into the arms of the enemy
Jail and force-feeding, waster martyrdom
Sold her songs for the national anthem
Slotted the smile back neatly into place
Served refreshments
At the end of the race
All demands reduced to a joke
X marks the plague, abandon hope
Butlers still pouring brandy for the rich
Excuse me pass me the privilege
A woman's voice, the state's idea
Same vested interests, same dirty deals
Currie and Williams immersed in the times
Examples to keep the rest in line
Currie and Williams two of a kind
Examples to keep the rest in line
Absolute power
Absolute power
Ladies, ladies, listen to me

[jenm]

48. David Rovics

his song: Reichstag Fire

(He's got the seething part down, if you ask me. )

Also Bruce Cockburn, his Stealing Fire album.

[KeepItReal]

49. Geto Boys CLASSIC: "F--k a War"

On the "We Can't Be Stopped" album.

Look it up...

"I ain't getting my leg shot off -
While Bush's old ass is on TV playing golf"
- Geto Boys

[GOPisEvil]

51. Chuck D and Public Enemy

OK, so they're rap, and not rock. It's angry and political. :D

[jayfish]

53. Corrosion Of Conformity.

The LP "Blind" should be right up your alley.

Jay

[Jack The Tab]

56. "Paid Vacation" by the Circle Jerks....

Very, very appropriate for our "war on terra"

[Screaming Lord Byron]

57. There's always post-1997 Primal Scream

They're pretty vociferous

[Tikki]

59. Molotov...

eom

[Iverson]

60. Randy Newman: Political Science

Bruce Cockburn and Rage Against the Machine also offer good choices.

[Lisa]

61. Steve Earle

His latest CDs have his thoughts on the war situation on the liner ...

[Redneck Socialist]

63. Wow, how did I forget him?

Great stuff.

62. start with the CLASH

the Clash
Bob Marley -- someone tried to assassinate him for his views
Peter Tosh
Chuck D & Public Enemy
the Minutemen
MC5
Gang of Four

some already mentioned some of these, but worth repeating

[rucky]

64. Fugazi

[arcane1]

65. SKYCLAD!

:bounce:


Paris is another good choice, that is currently kicking my ass

[Cleita]

74. Most of the songs in the late sixties were very political.

There was Joan Baez, Bob Dillon and so many more that I can't remember.

75. quintessential American band

Creedence Clearwater Revival were quite political & are one of those few bands who were so political who got consistent airplay. hendrix did also, but not his political stuff.

[Hammie]

77. Offspring