after watching the frst matrix movie, I ask myself

[Zech Marquis]

:wtf: did they do by screwing up the second movie's first hour? Revolutions does seem to be much better, but Reoaded was a lost opportunity. They could have shown what happened to Agent Smith--like he was recompiled with no skills, only for him to turn against the machines, go rgoue, and start making his won world.

Oh well, perhaps I can make my manga with some matrix influence in it--it IS a live action anime movie (The Matrix, that is)...

[vi5]

1. I fell asleep during that second one....

It was way too space ship sci-fi. I like sci-fi that is more at least rooted in reality like the first one was. Just a parallel way of explaining the every day. This one was like a star wars or star trek sci fi which I hate. Unless the second hour got better.

I'll admit this 3rd one looks much better.

[Gman]

2. Back to the Future II, The Empire Strikes Back, Matrix Reloaded

are all part II's of trilogies that were not as good the first or third. These come to mind off hand. I'm sure there's a few more.

[theemu]

4. Empire?

Surely you jest. Empire was the best film of the entire series. As one theorist put it, "All Jedi has was a bunch of muppets."

[Ohio Dem]

5. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom is another part 2 that doesn't ...

measure up. Raiders of the Lost Ark and The Last Crusade were good movies. I didn't care for the second one at all.

[WilliamPitt]

7. Empire was the best of the three

Period.

[RainDog]

3. The second Matrix was a load of crap

...which I am sorry I wasted my money to see.

I hated the pretentiousness of so much of the first Matrix anyway...the first thirty minutes were worth the cost of the movie.

I am really, really sick of movies which posit the idea of a (usually white) male as 'the one." --whether it's Luke Skywalker or the Terminator.

It's a mastabatory male fantasy which is spewed onto the movie screens over and over again.

Then hacks justify it by claiming it taps into a "universal" consciousness...as though the history of the world and the control of religion by males is "natural." ...and thus American cinema regurgitates the same crap year after year.

The idiocy of that underlying concept make any claims that The Matrix was so intelligent bogus to me.

The second movie, with the priestly robes, with the interminable fight sequences which substituted for any substance, were a sad reflection on the power of money to corrupt.

Bound was a much better movie than either the first Matrix after those first thirty minutes, or any part of the second one.

I will have to hear extraordinary things from sources I trust before I waste any money on movie tickets and expensive popcorn with this next Matrix movie. I'll probably catch it on dvd someday otherwise.

David Lynch's Mulholland Drive was a thousand times better than The Matrix, with a much smaller budget and less ego fucking.

[jafap]

6. a slight correction

"The one" is not about rule by "males". It is about rule by an alpha male (the ONE) and a beta male (Morpheus - the One-Lite).

Also, Terminator is not the same as Matrix. John Connor is perhaps the one, but the story is not about him. It is about his mother, and incidentally his father who gives his life to save "the female one" who is the mother, trainer, and inspiration for the guy who will save the human race from the machines that men made which are destroying it.

[soleft]

8. I didn't think LOTR II stood on its on ground as a movie

It was clearly a middle chapter and I kept waiting for it to be over so we could get to something interesting.