Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

What's the deal with Guy Fawkes anyway?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU
 
denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:57 PM
Original message
What's the deal with Guy Fawkes anyway?
I mean really. 400 years ago, somebody failed to blow up Parliament? So what?

140 years ago, 1/2 the US tried to leave and failed after a bloody 4 year war. But we don't celebrate the occasion. We don't celebrate the Whiskey Rebellion either. We especially don't celebrate failed assassination attempts.

So who the hell was Guy Fawkes and why the hell is Britain still celebrating his failure 400 years after the fact? Maybe he was right and Parliament deserved blowin up back then.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Francis Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:00 PM
Response to Original message
1. We celebrate July 4th
Brits do not !!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Byronic Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:02 PM
Response to Original message
2. Damn right!
Britons everywhere should be celebrating Robert Catesby night instead!

Why that good for nothing, pointy-hatted, poor excuse for a fuse lighter Fawkes...grumble,mumble, mumble.....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:04 PM
Response to Original message
3. Dude, it's an alcoholiday.
An occasion for antics and fun, and far too much beverage. I've come to believe people need these at various points in the year and will accept any reason to enjoy them.

We have them in the U.S., too. Think how many who are neither Irish nor Catholic celebrate St. Patrick's Day, or how many who are not particularly Latino who celebrate Cinco de Mayo, etc...

:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TXlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 02:11 PM
Response to Reply #3
8. I hate cinco de mayo
five jars of mayonnaise? All at once?

:puke:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 02:13 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. *throws jars of mayo*
I'm going to have your wife hit you for that one tonight! :P
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:05 PM
Response to Original message
4. This quote sort of explains it all
"Some of the English have been known to wonder whether they are celebrating Fawkes' execution or honoring his attempt to do away with the government."

It's a little bit of "A" and a little bit of "B", all depending on your views on religion and gov't.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:11 PM
Response to Original message
5. Its a good excuse
to light great big fires, drink too much, let off fireworks, drink too much, have a party and drink too much...

Hmmm... maybe we need to start celebrating November 5th in the US too...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:12 PM
Response to Original message
6. They say...
Guy Fawkes was the last person to enter Parliament with honest intentions.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:36 PM
Response to Original message
7. A back handed compliment to him also.
On his capture, he held out for three days under torture (more than enough time for his co-consipirators to escape, the idiots did not but that was not Fawkes fault). Than as he was to be drawn and quarters, he craws up the scaffows and as they tie the noose around him he jumps off the scaffows and breaks his neck. The Drawn and quarerting continued but with a dead body

His death is the reason for the coin, if you were beheaded you tipped the executioner so he did a quick and painless death, in drawn and quartering no such quick and painless death was intended. You were hanged (drawn) till not quite dead, than dropped to the ground where your legs and arsm were cut off (Quartered) and than your guts spilled out. Fawkes hanged himself and thus "earned" the tip for his own quick death. He hanged himself, instead of leaving his executioner draw out his painful death.

Whether youa greed with him or disagreed with him, his actions after his arrest are to be admired and thus it is.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 02:22 PM
Response to Reply #7
11. Interesting. Hadn't heard that stuff.
Everything I read about him talked about the persecution of Catholics in the 100 years prior to the attempt.

I'm not a big supporter of the papacy, but I hardly consider a government run church an improvement.

Interesting stuff.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 02:17 PM
Response to Original message
10. I went to the celebration in the town of Lewis
it was fantastically fun
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BritishHuman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 05:25 PM
Response to Original message
12. Remember, remember...
The Fifth of November,
Gunpowder, treason and plot.

I see no reason
why gunpowder and treason
should e'er be forgot.

King James had his advisors create a children's rhyme so that no-one would forget about it - the first piece of viral marketing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Paul1574 Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 05:26 PM
Response to Original message
13. terrorist or not ?
he was a catholic too lol

oh the irony.....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr 24th 2024, 04:36 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC