STOP With The Free Website Requests!

[matcom]

Look. Stop this bullshit with soliciting FREE graphic/web design projects for your "prestigious" web site. Its bullshit. Your no fucking better than the bastards outsourcing jobs or pushing CAFTA.

You want some college student to make his "name" working on your web site? Great. Solicit on college campuses.

If you want a professional, do NOT have some kind of open-ended "contest" requiring professional web developers to submit ideas to you for YOUR use. This shit takes a TON of time if done properly. If YOU don't know what you want it to look like, we would be HAPPY to provide mock-ups provided you PAY FOR THE TIME AND EFFORT.

If you have SPECIFIC requirements for YOUR site, INTERVIEW numerous web developers and SELECT ONE. If OUR price matches YOUR budget, and you LIKE what we have done previously, HIRE US. If we don't match, DON'T HIRE US! :grr:

YOU want a $50 "mock-up"? pay me $50 and i'll give you what you are willing to pay for. Don't know what you want and have $1,000 to spend? I'll give you something better and even apply that price to the final product.

Your obscure request "specifics" are going to fucking change half way through anyway so WHY BOTHER? WE have the expertise to do the work but damnit, we should be PAID for it. Our name in 1 point font at the bottom of your home page isn't going to pay the bills OR feed our families and the 4 or 5 HOURS MINIMUM we spend trying to impress YOU is a fucking waste. If YOU don't know what you want, neither do WE. Do a fucking GOOGLE search and TELL us what you like.

Don't waste my/our fucking time. I/WE aren't interested. If Skinner HIMSELF requested this crap I would RAIL against even the likes of DU. So don't think for ONE MINUTE this has to do with preference to web sites.

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[bicentennial_baby]

1. c'mon, tell us how you REALLY feel

:P

:hug:

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. I understand how you feel

some people think that "anyone" can do webpage design, so why pay for it? Or they think it is only worth a little bit-they have no clue how long it takes to code a page.

[tk2kewl]

3. the old adage still applies

you get what you pay for

[Fenris]

4. Amen. Thank you.

:thumbsup:

:toast:

[Crazy Guggenheim]

5. Well said!

[sandnsea]

6. I don't know what set that off, but..

THANK YOU.

I should copy that and end it to a bunch of clients, except I'm afraid I wouldn't have any clients when I got done! lol.

'Could you move this over here, and lighten this color, and the text on that graphic is a smidge too high. Wha, that costs money!?!'

sheesh.

[biscodawg]

7. Recommended

well put.

edit: spelling hurrrr

[DS1]

8. Kicked, Nominated, and Amen'd

:toast:

Fucking Amateurs. Oh, I think skip designing a content management piece I'm working on and instead spend my hours on a project that ~might~ provide me ~some~ dollars, for a fucking blog.

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[matcom]

24. btw your thread was NOT locked

moved to another forum. try your reading skills

[JimmyJazz]

26. I think name calling is against the rules. Don't think you are

going to come into the lounge and post this crap and have people side with you, 'cause it ain't gonna happen. Now, matcom is perfectly capable of defending himself in this thread, but I just want to put my two cents into it to let you know that you might want to consider toning it down a bit yourself. IMHO, of course.

[lala_rawraw]

27. search DS1's comments to me over months and months

Then tell me to tone it down, k?

[JimmyJazz]

30. Stop the name calling and grow up.

'k?

[lala_rawraw]

33. sorry, but had to lose it... every once in a while

Someone just pokes a bit too much and you lose it, so I am sorry if I offended you, that is for sure or anyone else. I am not in any way sorry for my reaction to someone who makes it a priority to take down many people at DU and for no reason, including a good friend of mine who was very ill. I am simply fed up with this attack mode that is the MO of the right and I hate to see it here. Sometimes I just get pissed and I assume sometimes others do to.

So growing up I might be able to do, but sometimes having enough of BS is not something I can promise. But I do, again, apologize if I have offended you.

[DS1]

35. Since you're so fond of the 'learn to read' response

I suggest you go back and reread everything that happened with Andy, before you lump me in with the people that actively worked to hurt him.

:hi:

[DS1]

32. Did someone say something?

.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

9. Recommended.

[emulatorloo]

10. You just made the greatest page ---

I think your rant is resonating. . . .

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[matcom]

12. in red

:eyes:

[DS1]

13. H1 is my friend

or was that div class td span strong superbig?

I forgot

[matcom]

14. can you also Sepia all our photos?

thanks

[DS1]

15. You want torn paper borders, or that shiny peeling away metal look?

I hear that's hot.

[matcom]

16. can you make our logo dance across the screen?

i need it by 4pm if possible. the President of the company wants to see how it would look

[DS1]

17. Ok, and this time I'll remember to comment all my code

so his son can take over once I'm done with the mockup

[emulatorloo]

18. but please - no plug-ins -- no one is allowed to download Quicktime

[DS1]

19. Oh, we don't use those plugins, we use real html like java applets

They're speedy, and work everywhere!

[emulatorloo]

21. I'm sorry - we're worried about security - and we only use Microsoft

technology -- java just wont work for us.

[DS1]

34. Excellent! Microsoft lets me use page transitions

Page transitions ROCK! You can do wipes and fades JUST like George Lucas does with Star Wars!

[yvr girl]

20. Are free email campaigns out of the question then?

;-)

[Pobeka]

25. You liberals sure do piss and moan.

If you were a good little liberal you'd do it for free.

:yoiks:

[Elidor]

28. Post Withdrawn

Out of sheer disgust at how this thread has devolved into pointless nastiness.

[Book Lover]

29. Testify, brother!

[Misunderestimator]

31. Maybe you could just show me how to create one myself?

:rofl:

[ghostsofgiants]

36. Matcom...

I love you...in a totally platonic-dude-on-the-internet kind of way.

[JimmyJazz]

37. Are you sure you want it to be platonic. He has a GREAT ass.

IMHO - of course :P

[ghostsofgiants]

38. Hmmm...

It IS a nice ass...

[Schema Thing]

39. yeah, but think what an impressive piece you could turn out for a

photographer. Think of all the ad people who will see your name in 2 pt type. Yes TWO point type, my entrepreneurial good fellow.

When can we get together and hash out some ideas? I'll buy lunch.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

40. Won't happen.

[Moderator]

41. Lock

Point made