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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 11:53 AM
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Lawyers? I was photo'd by "the man" goin thru a red light in a pal's car.
Edited on Thu Nov-06-03 11:55 AM by henslee
This was in L.A., CA. My friend got a notice to appear w/ a copy of my photo. Because he wasn't driving, there is a spot on the form to provide the name/address/ license # of the real driver. He doesn't wants to give that info..."Does he have to?". What if he disputes the ticket by mail (post 300. bond, send copy of his license to prove its not him and explain that he does not want to rat me out)? What would happen? Also, please note, he is not a U.S. citizen but does have a CA drivers license. Yes, I went through the light but it was the safer thing to do at the time. No, he doesn't want to go to court and if I had to, I would just accept the ticket. But we both hate this whole big brother scenario. Any advice?
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 12:01 PM
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1. all right - I'm not a lawyer
but I think it is up to the police to figure out who the driver is. At least that is how it has always been. It would be a dangerous precedent for it to be any other way.

I suppose the car owner might have to show that he wasn't the driver - but even that is pretty weird. Backwards.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 12:03 PM
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2. You deserve the ticket.
If you ran a red light you totally deserve the ticket. Be a good citizen and admit to it.
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ThorsteinVeblen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 12:08 PM
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3. No, that is not true
Running a red light is sometimes the safest thing to do.

For example: 3:30am waiting at a red light that never changes is less safe then running it at a clearly empty intersection.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:33 PM
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10. Same excuse the guy that hit my dad had. n/t
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dreissig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 12:09 PM
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4. Lend Him the Three Hundred
Lend your friend the three hundred and have him say he knows you only by your first name. Why would he lend his car to somebody he knows so casually? It's none of their business.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:12 PM
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8. that ws gonna be my strategy! But then i thought, why be a liar? n/t
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 12:20 PM
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5. Do the RIGHT thing and contest it LAWFULLY. This isn't Ashcroft, this is
just cities trying to make nutsy intersections SAFER.

Post the $300, provide your info, let him off the hook and like I said, DO THE RIGHT THING.

Follow the process, and lawfully protest the citation. If you feel you had to go through the intersection for safety reasons, use the court system to say so, and don't jeopardize HIM for it.

Or, as you mention, just pay it, and clarify it was you.

Do the right thing.
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happydad Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 12:29 PM
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6. Second that motion
Trace has the right idea, and so did Spike. Do the right thing.

My brother did the same thing several years ago while in town driving my car, and got nicked at the infamous La Cienega/Wilshire citation-generating machine.

Don't be a wuss...
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:13 PM
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9. you guys are absolutely right. just pay it. THANKS
Edited on Thu Nov-06-03 01:15 PM by henslee
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kimchi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 12:36 PM
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7. Best to be honest and plead your case.
But I also like the idea of your friend saying a friend borrowed his car and it isn't their business. I'm no lawyer, so please make sure you have your ducks in a row.
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