Don't Listen To The Cynics, Matrix Revolutions Was GOOD

[THUNDER HANDS]

**WARNING THERE ARE SPOILERS IN THIS HERE POST**

Not as good as the first, but definately as good as the second one.

Yeah, I missed the old Oracle, and there were definately scenes in this movie that didn't need to be there. But on a whole, this was a pretty cool movie.

And unlike other people, I think the ending was plausable. There's no way the machines were going to beat Smith and no way the humans were going to beat the machines.

A truce was the only plausable scenario.

I mean, how many times in a movie do you ever get the good guy and the bad guy having a truce with eachother?

Now, granted, I'm a huge Matrix fan. If you're not, definately wait to see it on DVD - where you can adjust the brightness on your tv because believe me, this is one dark movie.

But on a whole I'd give it ** 1/2 stars.

If you got the money, see it in the theater, if not wait.

But it gets a :thumbsup: from me.

[DS1]

1. well, thanks for the spoiler warning

:shrug:

[THUNDER HANDS]

2. oops

sorry about that, I figured everyone has probably heard about the ending by now. It's even printed in some papers.

[w13rd0]

4. The whole thing was based on Gnostic philosophy...

...with Neo playing the role of A'dam, the "machine" being the Unknowable God, and Smith being the Demiurge. Of course it was going to end with a union of the Man with the Divine. The theme was repeated so many times in "pre-quakes" throughout the series, it would be hard not to know the ending. Heck, the opening of the first film was the world of the potential communicating with the world of the actualized...as was the opening of the second film.
And the death/rebirth progression of Neo in the first, twice (out of the matrix, then one with the matrix), then the second...

[DrWeird]

3. I disagree.

Although the first one was purposefully cheesy, it didn't ham it up to the point of insulting the audiences intelligence. The score in this film was just plain awful. In some of the scenes, the defense of the dock for example, I felt like I had just paid money to watch Starship Troopers all over again.

I agree that the truce was the only plausible scenario and I was expecting it since Reloaded.

The Oracle was the best part of the franchise, and dealing with the actresses death was insurmountable.

If your going to have an ending that doesn't really resolve any issues (not that it's a bad ending) don't have a big beautiful ugly sunrise at the ending.

[THUNDER HANDS]

5. what issues weren't resolved?

I couldn't think of any.

[DrWeird]

6. Most of humanity being trapped in the Matrix, for instance.

Or why the machines would keep a bargain with a dead man and no threat.

[w13rd0]

7. Well, I think Animatrix ties into that...

...it's instructive to realize that it was the humans who started the conflict with the machines, and the machines offered the solution available that achieved "peace". The machines tried negotiating peace, but the hairless monkeys savagely attacked them, out of fear, and anger that the machines economy was superior to theirs. And in one of the last segments, you see humans trying to unite with machines, and the "changed" machine being the last one standing.

Most of those that had "escaped" the Matrix were inclined to do so, and those trapped in it, or returning to it, were also so inclined. We all choose our reality to a certain degree.

[THUNDER HANDS]

8. at the end of the movie

The Arhitect says they'll be freed. The oracle asks for his word and he says "What, am I human?"

Implying that machines will always keep their word.

Remember, in the Animatrix, the machines were the one's who first wanted to bargain with the humans for their own homeland. The humans turned them down, kicked them out of the UN, and then blocked out the sun to destroy the machines.

The machines then took over..and thus the beginning of the Matrix.