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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:15 PM
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Apple Computer really trusts its customers. I mean, ~really~ ~trusts~
its customers. They're *gasp* *cough* *wheeze* suddenly being so irrational, I can't *sputter* *hack* *gulp* believe this.

They're releasing a new mouse, right. But it's not just any old Apple innovation. Following me? It's got...
























two buttons :wow: :think: :nuke:



























ON THE SAME MOUSE! :crazy:


















Of course, it's not wireless...





























They wouldn't want to you lose it :P

http://www.apple.com/mightymouse/
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:17 PM
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1. WOW!
That's totally radical of Apple to offer TWO BUTTONS. On the same mouse.

I can't believe they didn't do that fifteen years ago, when it became necessary.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:18 PM
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4. That would be such a rash thing to do.
What kind of reckless manufacturer puts some many options on such a little device?

DOUBLE your FUNCTIONALITY!

:swoon:
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:17 PM
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2. Apparently you can also squeeze it.
That will come in handy when you find out that all the software you want to use runs in Windows.

Stupid Windows.
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kedrys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:17 PM
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3. I'm gobsmacked.
:P
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:18 PM
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5. TWO BUTTONS??
what will the poor mac users do? ;-)

Unlike any other mouse on the market, Mighty Mouse was designed specifically to work with Mac OS X Tiger. Up-to-the minute information on Dashboard is only a click away. Viewing, hiding and selecting your windows via Exposé is just as simple. And because Mac OS X Tiger makes Mighty Mouse programmable, you choose where every click takes you.


What's next MacOS X running on INTEL???
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:19 PM
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6. Poor mac users wouldn't be able to afford Tiger
so I guess they're fucked.

What's this? You have to UPGRADE to use an Apple product! Who do they think they are, Microsoft????
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:20 PM
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8. Every Mac User knows someone at a university right?
Universtiy Discount !!

The main reason to stay in grad school longer, so you can afford mac hardware! :)
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:31 PM
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23. Heh, I got the Tiger upgrade for free
I just begged some customer service guy on the phone and told him I was going to college :shrug:

He even threw in a mouse for free
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:20 PM
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7. OMG! Maybe this means third-party vendors will start to be able
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 01:21 PM by Rabrrrrrr
to make components for the almighty Apple?!

Apple on AMD?!

non-Apple hard drives?

Affordable second-party hardware additions?!

HOLY SHIT!!!!

Apple might be giving up its personal monopoloy and allowing its products and user base to.......GASP!!!!.......... GROW?!?!?!?!
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:27 PM
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14. You need to get out of the 80s - there are plenty of 3rd party peripherals
for Macs. Logitech etc etc etc

and I hate to break it to you - an IDE or SATA hard drive is an IDE or SATA hard drive. As is a firewire or USB hard drive.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:32 PM
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25. Well, I'll be darned.
It's about time!
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:39 PM
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38. Crazy isn't it!?!?!
EOM
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #5
11. well...
actually yes. the next gen of Macs will have Intel inside



david
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:24 PM
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13. Whats next, an affordable MAC ?
Yep, and if they would only apologize to the web designer community for Safari, then we'd be getting somewhere! :)
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:20 PM
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9. Get a PC!
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:21 PM
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10. What an unPC thing to say!
I'm calling the PC police on your platform insensitivites! :)
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:23 PM
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12. Not as good as my mouse
THREE buttons, a scroll wheel+button, wireless, laser tracking
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:27 PM
Response to Reply #12
15. Mines got buttons for forward and backwards, faster scroll up,
taskbar popup, push on the wheel and I move the mouse to go up and down.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:43 PM
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43. Mouse Wars :)
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 01:44 PM by Moochy
My MX 518 Logitech is better than all y'all mouses.

In fact, my mouse calls your mouse out. }(

whaddya gonna do about? are you a man or a 1 button mouse!?!?
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:50 PM
Response to Reply #43
49. I've got a mightly 7 with options! I've got the 700!
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:27 PM
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16. Ohhhh nooooo!!!!
What's next?

A CONTROL PANEL IN MAC OS???
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:31 PM
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22. You windows users really need to get out more.
Support for 2 button mice has been built into Mac OS for a while. I use a logitech mouse and keyboard w my Mac.

I believe Mac OS had "control panel" before windows.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #22
31. we windows users are just yanking yer iChain
:)
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:56 PM
Response to Reply #31
52. oh I know, I am having fun too. . . EOM
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:35 PM
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32. See, my friend,
not "control panel" to fix the colors of your shiny thingies on the desktop, but to assign hardware IRQs and such. :rofl:

I love puter wars.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:59 PM
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53. I use my mac when I work;if I want to assign IRQ's I'll use my windows box
:toast:
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:28 PM
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17. Ive had a two button mouse for my Mac for a LONG TIME
Logitech, and support built into Mac OS for a long time for 2 button mouse.
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:29 PM
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18. How about a wheel?
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:30 PM
Response to Reply #18
20. mine has all of the above
:shrug: two buttons, wheel... it's a logitech as well
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:32 PM
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26. Dupe.
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 01:33 PM by Crazy Guggenheim
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:32 PM
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27. I've got a Logitech too! I know they work with Mac.
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:29 PM
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19. I'll admit to owning a two button Mac mouse...
they've always had them available, I don't know why this is "news".

YEAH I OWN A TWO BUTTON MOUSE FOR MY MAC - Y'ALL CAN SUCK IT.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:30 PM
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21. Who made it?
That's the point
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:32 PM
Response to Reply #21
24. Logitech
why?
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:33 PM
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28. This is Apple's first two-button mouse
I know other companies made two-buttons, but Apple were really stupid to be so stubborn, and even lock out lots of their users from lots of functionality out the box.

that's why we point and laugh ;-)
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:34 PM
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30. That's what I thought they meant; Apple's mouse.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:36 PM
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33. control-click = your precious second button
no one was locked out



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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:38 PM
Response to Reply #33
36. That sounds as backwards as Linux .........
:popcorn:
Here we go .......
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:39 PM
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39. LOL n/t
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:51 PM
Response to Reply #28
51. Ohh, gotcha
haha, it is fairly funny that Apple JUST came out with their own two button.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:33 PM
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29. You windows users really need to get out more.
If this is your idea of FUN!

For example, I don't remember getting all crazy will Bill Gates finally added 2 monitor support to Windows a few years, given that we had it in the early nineties.

Anyways, have fun!

:toast:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:37 PM
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34. Windows has had 4 monitor support since 2001
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:41 PM
Original message
Yes and macs had multi monitor support since the Mac II (1987?)
EOM
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:43 PM
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44. Yet, that is also more than a couple years ago
I'll admit to drooling all over the Mac II, but that was back when the amount of software available for both wasn't separated by such a grand chasm.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:49 PM
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48. I have never had trouble finding a mac software package
Sure there may be twenty gazillion drawing packages for windows. However freehand and illustrator work great for me.

I have never had trouble finding a mac app to do what I want.

(games is the only place I see a real difference. But my work computer is not for games).
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:44 PM
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45. But Apple didn't have much for software either. But better than
what Linux is now .......

:popcorn:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:45 PM
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47. Yes, indeed, Linux does lick the dog's bollocks
:-)
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:00 PM
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56. Watch the new thread I'm going to start! Oh shit!
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:01 PM
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58. You are bad bad bad. . .I cannot wait. . . .
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:01 PM
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57. All I need is one good application, not a kazillion crappy ones. . .
But that's just me I guess. . .
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:38 PM
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37. Whee! fun :)
I admit that its humorous to see Apples marketing around the mighty mouse.

"one button looks with two button functionality" :)
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Tikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:37 PM
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35. Geez then he'll scream at me...click right...then...click left.....
...whatever...Whenever he wants me to look up something on the Not-The-MAC.

I went back to using this because it cradles comfortably in the palm of my hand...no more wrist pain...




Tikki
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:39 PM
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40. And for $50, it's a bargain!
:eyes:

IBM developed the same thing but made the 360 degree but ergo-friendly for the thumb... ergo-friendly indent or mini-trackball, it's still a uninspired load...
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:41 PM
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41. So what?
APPLE INVENTED THE MOUSE!*

*Apple claims not subject to factual accuracy.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:41 PM
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42. !
:rofl:
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:45 PM
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46. And the GUI, too!
"Xerox? Who's Xerox?" - Steve Jobs
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:51 PM
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50. Apple paid Xerox
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 01:54 PM by emulatorloo
http://www.mackido.com/Interface/ui_history.html

<snip>

Jobs was so hot on the concepts of UI, and the living Demos he say, that he, later, negotiated a deal with Xerox. He gave Xerox a large sum of stock in Apple (worth Millions) if he could come back, and bring some programmers -- to inspire them more on the concepts of GUI. This was like a one-day tour. This was agreed to by Xerox, and so by no stretch of the imagination could this be called "ripping-off".

PARC was a research center -- meant to inspire development. But they did not really develop products (in the commercial sense), they developed ideas. Saying that Apple learning some of the base concepts and then applying them was "ripping-off" is like saying that Air-Bags are ripping off Newton -- because Air Bags work because they adhere to some of the laws of physics first expressed by Sir Isaac. A silly silly argument. Knowledge builds on knowledge. Xerox didn't see Apple as competition, that is why they let them in -- but they charged Apple, since Xerox believed that their research had value.

Apple was creating a product, and so they hired some of the same researchers from Xerox, to be brought to Apple to work on the Mac and Lisa projects. Those researches state quite clearly that the goals and implementation were quite different between Xerox and Apple. The following is an exchange between two of those researchers, and should give you an idea of how much the Mac contributed to the concepts of UI -

<snip>
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:59 PM
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54. That explains why Xerox sued Apple, then, I suppose. ...
for infringement of copyright and theft of intellectual property...(dismissed, happened at about the same time Apple sued Microsoft on similar grounds).
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:03 PM
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59. sounds like one of those 'frivolous' lawsuits GWB warned us about!
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:04 PM
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60. No more frivolous than Apple's, I'd say...
but then you seem to be a bit too much of an Apple partisan to appreciate the irony...
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:07 PM
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63. Hey, I just like computers; and I like my Mac better than my Windows Box
and I have good reasons for it. And I do get tired of misinformation/FUD about the Mac.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:13 PM
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67. What misinformation?
I haven't been disseminating any. And I'm moderately familiar with the Mac. I just don't think that it, or Apple as a coporate entity, are perfect or even all that much better than the competition.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:23 PM
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68. that "apple stole from xerox"
when apple paid in stock and was invited by xerox and xerox invested in apple.

I have no idea why xerox sued, apparently per wilkipedia their lawsuit was dismissed on a technicality.

If you like your Windows Box, great! I like mine too, but it is not my go to computer when I want to get work done or enjoy computing.

Yes all corporations suck. Gates and MS suck a lot. . .



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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:00 PM
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55. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
does it DO anything or just so Apple users can be like the cool kids :D
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:04 PM
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61. dunno, read about it here: (And it is PC Compatible!)
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:04 PM
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62. I don't know, but the press release does talk about audio feedback
Left. Right. Left. Right. Left. Right

it's a training aid, and if you buy Tiger, you can reprogram it to say East, West, East, West...
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:08 PM
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64. How about "That way!, no this way!"
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:10 PM
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65. The deluxe stereo version lets you download your own noises
so you can pretend to be watching Wimbledon while you're at work

The Women's match, however, costs 10 dollars to download. I can't imagine why.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:11 PM
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66. LOL
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 02:11 PM by emulatorloo
fun thread. . .
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