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Wed Aug-03-05 08:13 AM
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DUers, I'm sick of the "suicide threats" on DU. |
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Dammit, it's not funny, nor is amusing, to post such comments. It's quite insensitive, to be honest.
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Wed Aug-03-05 08:14 AM
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1. ((((((((((((Maddy)))))))))))) |
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:33 AM
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Wed Aug-03-05 08:16 AM
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2. i'm sick of a Lot of things on DU |
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suicide threats might be number 4 on the List.
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Wed Aug-03-05 08:19 AM
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3. is there a sniffa top ten list available? |
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just wondering what all might be wrong
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:27 AM
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27. If your mother or father had committed suicide... |
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I'd wager that it might be up there around number 1.
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:50 AM
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57. She did, and it IS number one. |
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Not only am I sick of them, too, I'm sick of snarky comments such as the one to which you replied.
*whine* gee, what else might the pc police be worried about? aren't we DUers a sensitive lot? *whine whine whine*
When it comes to suicide, you're god damned right it's wrong to joke about it, and yes, I AM sensitive. 30+ years later I am over it, I have forgiven her, but I remain sensitive and empathic to others.
If you can't say something in this vein that won't hurt someone, shut the fuck up. You don't know what the fuck you're doing.
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:55 AM
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62. my comment was snarky? |
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:57 AM
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63. I just re-read the thread - no, Sniffa, it wasn't, and I apologize. |
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I got my undies in a bunch and went off at a wrong angle. I was getting ready to edit my response when I saw this - I am sorry.
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Wed Aug-03-05 10:00 AM
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i wasn't beLittLing maddy, just voicing my dispLeasure at some recent events on DU, this incLuded.
i aLso didn't reaLize how my written version couLd/wouLd come off otherwise. doh!
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Wed Aug-03-05 08:19 AM
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4. How do I miss these things? |
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I haven't see them... but it certainly does sound insensitive.
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Wed Aug-03-05 08:22 AM
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Wed Aug-03-05 08:24 AM
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11. just look for the lock. |
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Wed Aug-03-05 08:25 AM
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Wed Aug-03-05 08:48 AM
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14. It's not just that thread. I see it tossed around on DU all the time. |
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For those of us who have dealt with, or who CURRENTLY ARE DEALING WITH, the suicide of a loved one, it sucks.
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:02 AM
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23. I agree Maddy... it's not a subject to joke about... |
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and here's another :hug: :grouphug:
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:25 AM
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I'm not making this about me. I have received numerous PMs from people telling me stories of suicides in their families. More people here than anyone can imagine have been through this tragedy.
We don't post "joke threads" about cancer (although I wouldn't be surprised if that, too, eventually happens) so why is suicide considered laugh material?
:hug: :loveya:
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Wed Aug-03-05 10:57 AM
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67. I know. It was the latest incarnation |
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that I figured she was looking for.
And probably the one that broke your camel's back.
:hug:
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Wed Aug-03-05 08:21 AM
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5. We do need to take caution that our words don't offend. |
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Even unintentionally.
This speaks to your subject as well as many others around here.
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Wed Aug-03-05 08:23 AM
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Wed Aug-03-05 08:23 AM
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8. I was thinking the same thing. |
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Wed Aug-03-05 08:23 AM
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that it isn't funny. I didn't see the thread you are referring to, but suicide is never funny.
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Wed Aug-03-05 08:23 AM
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10. I've noticed "suicide threats" for a while here. |
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It's quite nauseating. I also LOVE when people joke about suicide. Because it's such a funny topic. :eyes:
:hug:
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Wed Aug-03-05 08:49 AM
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15. Its' fucking insensitive. |
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And CRASS. That's what it is.
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Wed Aug-03-05 08:45 AM
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for your situation. I didn't see your more extended thread yetbut I did see your initial thread, the one where you had some questions re: suicide, so I could pretty much figure out what happened.
Sorry for your loss.:hug:
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Wed Aug-03-05 08:50 AM
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I appreciate your words more than you know.
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Wed Aug-03-05 08:45 AM
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13. Some of us remember a real incident here at DU. Mods and Admin |
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worked furiously to get help.
There's nothing remotely funny about it, and one never knows when it may touch one's own life.
Have an ounce of compassion, please.
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Wed Aug-03-05 08:49 AM
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16. i really hope that last statement is not aimed at maddy. |
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Wed Aug-03-05 08:54 AM
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Blonde is a good person. I'm sure she meant that for the insensitive "suicide" posts.
:hug:
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:03 AM
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25. No, it was meant for the insensitive, but I hope not mean spirited |
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types who would post such things.
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:28 AM
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I know you well enough to know that you have one of the kindest hearts on DU. :hug:
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:32 AM
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31. Thanks. I know you are going through a tough ride yourself. |
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So sorry for your loss; take care of yourself.
:hug: back!
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:53 AM
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61. i should have assumed that. |
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sorry for accidentally misunderstanding. :hug:
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Wed Aug-03-05 08:50 AM
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It showed me what a great community DU is.
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:38 AM
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Wed Aug-03-05 08:56 AM
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20. Maddy, I wish I could take a little bit of the pain away. |
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Know that I'm thinking of you.
Dealing with this over the past few years with MrG hasn't made it anymore easier to understand.
:hug:
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:28 AM
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29. It's the most painful situation for the children of the victim. |
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Please say a prayer, send good thoughts up, for them. :hug: back.
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Wed Aug-03-05 08:58 AM
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21. I really haven't seen many |
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But I am guessing there have been some. Even with my sick sense of humor, suicide is one thing I don't find funny in no way at all. I'm sorry you are going through this Maddy and anyone who is trying to be funny by posting anything about it, it's not funny people.
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:30 AM
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30. No one posted a joke about the current situation.. |
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but any joke about "killing myself" is not funny to me.
DU ought to have a standing policy that if someone makes a threat like that, even joking, admin will call police in the town in which that DUer is located, and report the threat.
THAT might stop the joking around about it.
I'm fine. It's the family who holds my sorrow and concern. :hug:
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:52 AM
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59. Suicide is not a laughing matter. |
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Nor is any type of insensitivity. At least to me. As far as mods and admin are concerned, when a thread about suicide is posted, we DO take it seriously. We lock the thread and advise the person to seek professional help. Unfortunately, because this is an anonymous message board, it isn't always possible to try to track people down IRL.
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:03 AM
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Suicide isn't a laughing matter at all. I can't imagine the despair going on in the mind of someone contemplating suicide. There are ways out of whatever problem is going on in their lives. But they themselves cannot see this. I wish there was a way to prevent something like this.
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:32 AM
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So do I. I can't imagine living in the torment in which one would consider taking one's life. Well, I can--but only because I have a very close family member who's contemplated it. And I've lost an uncle to it, and a father-in-law.
It's so horrible for the people left behind. It's a shame that they have to deal with their sadness, guilt, anger, as well as with the stigma some people assign to suicide victims and their families.
Makes me just want to run away.
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:42 AM
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49. "Makes me just want to run away." |
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Yes it would me to my friend. I've lost an in-law to it, distraught after a break-up with a girlfriend. One death like this touches so many of us.
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:48 AM
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54. It changes the whole family dynamics. |
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Sometimes for the better, but often for the worse. My heart goes out to you. I know how tragic suicide is. I've seen how it affected my father. :hug:
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:33 AM
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Edited on Wed Aug-03-05 10:12 AM by leftofthedial
me being an asshole.
sorry.
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:33 AM
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35. Please delete that. It's not funny. |
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:35 AM
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Can you believe that someone would do something so callous in THIS of all threads?
I'm a very peaceful person, but some people I would just love to dustroll. :grr:
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:38 AM
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45. Well, some people can't realize that not everything is funny. |
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:34 AM
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36. Is this supposed to be funny? |
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I just lost a dear friend to suicide and this is how you respond to my request that people quit joking about the topic.
NOT FUNNY. For whatever reason you did this, I hope you have the good sense to delete your "joke."
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:35 AM
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37. Unbelievable... did you even read the thread? |
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Edited on Wed Aug-03-05 09:37 AM by Misunderestimator
And I see you edited it now... weird.
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:36 AM
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an asshole always has to show himself. :grr:
Shit like this makes me want to just leave DU to the lounge snipers who do nothing but HURT other people.
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:37 AM
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41. WTF? That's not funny. |
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I have no doubt you have never been affected by suicide. Many of us here have. How insensitive to the OP.
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:47 AM
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wrong
undoubtedly
yes and I'm sorry.
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:38 AM
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43. Here we go again with what? |
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Is this (this being a lack of suicide jokes) a problem for you?
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:43 AM
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50. "Darn, DU is just too PC. I can't joke about suicide on the day... |
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that another DUer learned that her friend killed herself. DUers are just tight asses."
:eyes:
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:44 AM
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:41 AM
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48. Here we go again with WHAT? |
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I have encountered all kinds of insensitive people at DU. That's ok. There aren't many issues that I give a shit about, that have taken a toll on my life or the lives of other DUers like suicide.
That you would JOKE ABOUT IT after I just posted a thread that MY CLOSE FRIEND took her own life...well, that exhibits to DU just the kind of person you are.
Don't start that "people are too PC here at DU" crap. This is about good, human decency, something you obviously DO NOT possess.
So, for the family of my dear friend, for my father, for all of the friends whose lives she touched, let me just say this to you:
FUCK OFF.
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Wed Aug-03-05 10:03 AM
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65. not everyone reads every thread on DU |
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myself included.
I'm sorry for your loss. It is a horrible thing to experience. It resonates through your life in ways that other losses do not. I speak from personal experience. I wish you healing and comfort. I'm sorry I added to your pain. Please accept my condolences and my apology.
:hug:
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:36 AM
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I don't know if they're done for attention, as a joke or otherwise, but it's draining.
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:37 AM
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42. I think it's an attention thing. |
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You know, I posted above--I wish that everytime some jerk joked about taking his or her life, the mods would report it to Skinner, who could find their address on the financial records and then call the cops in their hometown to report a suicide threat.
Might put the quiatus to it, then.
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:39 AM
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46. Agreed, Maddy. We talked about this before. |
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:hug: I guess some people just don't give a damn.
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:51 AM
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58. I think a small group of really tasteless DUers... |
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get their rocks off when they hurt others. But, hey, it's all in the name of fun, right? :grr:
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:52 AM
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60. Well, on behalf of my Uncle Roy, |
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And everyone else's loved ones who have taken their lives, a hearty "fuck you".
:hug:
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Wed Aug-03-05 09:40 AM
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47. Sometimes the insensitivity here truly astounds me |
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:hug:
Maddy, my thoughts are with you and your friend's family. How sad.
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51. I'm sorry for what you're going through. |
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Wed Aug-03-05 10:46 AM
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66. I'm sorry for your loss |
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and I know the pain you are going through. I've also been affected by suicide in my family. It is never a joking matter.
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