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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:03 PM
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Wanna see what happens at a Promise Keepers protest?
Here's my buddy, Dave, at the protest. It's one of my favorite pictures. He got prayer circled.


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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:04 PM
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1. The circle jerks
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:04 PM
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2. Aw, Jeez guys, no need to worship me or anything.
Whatever floats their boats, I guess.
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:08 PM
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4. It *does* look like they're bowing down to him!
LOL Promise Keepers are imbeciles.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:17 PM
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15. That's what I find so funny
Look! Our new lord and master! Dave's sign was the icing on the cake.
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Democracy White Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:05 PM
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3. *snork*
I think this is funny. Really. I'm LOLing at the library right now.

I wanna be prayer circled!!! Just so I can chuckle.

Seriously though, these dudes are scary.

Dee
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:09 PM
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6. How are they scary?
They're just following their beliefs. I don't see them stoning the OP's friend.

They're friendly compared to the Phelpsians, who would club you with their picket signs if they weren't cowards.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:11 PM
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9. They believe that the man is the head of the household
in all ways. I think they are pretty scary, myself, frankly. I got married because I wanted a partner, not a boss.
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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:13 PM
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10. Organized sexists.
Not completely unlike a klan rally.
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Democracy White Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:14 PM
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12. I don't know, I guess the whole cult-like mentality
is what struck out at me. I've had people pray over me, which is a nice gesture in itself, I don't mind that. I just think that the group in the pic looks like a herd following it's herder. I don't know how to explain, I'm not in a good position right now as I am going through issues of my own and my mind doesn't want to work.

Dee
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:32 PM
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23. It's okay, D.W.
I read your other post, about your morning. I'm sorry - very unfortunate, very crazy-making, I know. :hug:
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Democracy White Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 05:07 PM
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41. My dad told me earlier that I shouldn't grant her any favors.
Dee
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Lilyhoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:42 PM
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31. The power of prayer and touch,
are very powerful and I would not want theese people "praying" around me.

Take a few deep breaths regarding your issues and be well.:hi:
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:18 PM
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16. I dunno
The women at the protest (myself included) were pretty darn scared. We'd stand back to back in case of attack. They were rather Phelpsian toward women.
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:34 PM
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24. I'm sorry to hear it.
My brother-in-law and several of his friends are PKs. His wife and both sisters-in-law are atheists. He's never tried to run roughshod over my sister; never tried to rule over her in any way. They have quite an equitable relationship.

I don't know why he's a member, unless it's to give himself one more way to hang with his buds.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:24 PM
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20. Oddly enough
I was protesting the bishops conference in Dallas and found myself on the same side of the fence as the Phelps crowd (strange bedfellows). The cops roped them off from normal people. A friend and I enraged them by doing an insane "sodomite dance" every time they yelled "Sodomite" at the bishops. But they never hit us over the head.
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:08 PM
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5. Operation Rescue assholes...
used to do this to the cars driven by the clinic escorts. They'd circle around our cars and pray for them. (Well, they were praying for the people who had driven the cars, but we would tease them.)

Go ahead and pray people, at least you won't be harrassing someone.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:10 PM
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7. so did he trick them?
or are they praying for him, since he's not a beLiever?
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:10 PM
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8. pathetic.
do these guys have some 'issues' or what?
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:13 PM
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11. I tell ya...
I sure hope God wasn't busy with something like tending to a grieving family over the loss of a loved one when these guys bothered him with asking for Dave's salvation. :eyes:
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:16 PM
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14. No kidding
Dave's an atheist. He isn't against their religion, only their sheeplike devotion to a corrupt organization.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:19 PM
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17. so did he trick them
or what's going on here?
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:21 PM
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18. No, he didn't trick them
They were praying for his salvation. Women protesters were verbally threatened rather than prayer circled.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:24 PM
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19. Seriously? These "men" verbally threatened the women protesters?
Pretty f*cking ironic, isn't it?
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:25 PM
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21. Yes indeed
We had to stand back to back to protect each other.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:28 PM
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Yep, those big strong men, who were put on this earth by the Lord
himself, to protect and rule over women. Why am I not surprised? :eyes:
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:16 PM
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13. Too bad he didn't bring enlistment forms
Looks like an able-bodied group of young me there.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:28 PM
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22. You have to understand these people LOVE being "persecuted"/"ridiculed"
it gets them more points for getting into heaven.

What are "promise keepers" anyway?

david
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:34 PM
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25. That is seriously messed up....
what a bunch of freaks.
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TeddyKGB Donating Member (728 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:36 PM
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26. Hey, it's freedom of religion and assembly. Why protest?
Sure, they're morans - but leave 'em alone.

Dave might get a throng of anti-atheist protestors at his house after this.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:42 PM
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30. I generally don't protest this sort of thing
I was just interested in how we'd be received. At the time, the guy who runs Promise Keepers was having an affair and divorcing his wife. They were also mysteriously missing millions of dollars collected from the faithful. We just thought these guys should know this before they emptied their wallets.
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TeddyKGB Donating Member (728 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:46 PM
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36. Been happening since church was invented
Seriously, if these people are gonna believe in an Invisible Man That Lives Above The Clouds, they'll be suckers for anything.

George W. Bush, for example. The Republican Party, for another. As far as church people go, as long as they're not hurting anyone, I'm pretty libertarian on letting them do what they want.
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 05:16 PM
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42. You protest anything that overtly proposes violence.
And PK does. Man is the head of the household and must take back his dominion...NO MATTER HOW HE HAS TO DO IT. Men rule and women and children are to shut up and take whatever the master hands out.

(PK was just here in Charleston. They openly advocated beating 'recalcitrant' wives, the right of men to 'take' marital privileges even if the wife doesn't agree (iow, rape) and physical punishment of children.

I was hoping someone would blow up the convention center.

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Ratty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:37 PM
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27. I love new verbs!
"Prayer circled!" Gotta remember that one.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:37 PM
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28. Buncha braindead fascist idiot moron fucks spewing their theology of hate
and misogyny and irreverantly giving up their brains, given to them by God, in order to follow some even more clueless evil leader fuck.

Promise can go fuck themselves. Oh, wait - I bet they do! But it's not homosexual when they do it, it's "Godly bonding of the Godly male-archetype norm" or something like that, I'm sure.

Fuck them.

"Look at me! I'm special because I'm a unique individual who's exactly like every other guy in my organization! Who wants some Amway?"
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:40 PM
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29. Who the hell are these people?
Never heard of them.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:44 PM
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33. More than you want to know
Of course, they aren't going to tell you what a sleazeball McCartney is.

http://www.promisekeepers.org/

The History of Promise Keepers
“Way back before Promise Keepers had a name, we looked up the word integrity in Webster's Dictionary. He gave six definitions: ‘utter sincerity, honesty, candor, not artificial, not shallow, no empty promises.’”
-- Bill McCartney

The name “Promise Keepers” also derives from the covenant that God fulfilled through Jesus Christ. In Christ, God kept all the promises that he made to mankind and we rely upon God as the original Promise Keeper to keep our promises.

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:44 PM
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32. At the risk of defending PK
Edited on Wed Aug-03-05 01:46 PM by Taverner
Yes, they do espouse that the man is the head of the household. This is sexism, pure and simple.

But the majority of PK'ers are evangelicals who are looking for male bonding.

Yes, they are crazy, I'll give you all that. Most evangelical Christians are - but in the grand scheme of things, who's worse? The PKs or the current misadministration? OR Dobson?

Focus, people, focus.

These guys are Focus on the Family - lite.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:45 PM
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34. The PKs ARE this misadministration.
If they want something, they call Georgie-Boy and they get it.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:47 PM
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37. I don't think they're equal equal
I've worked with people who are promise keepers, voted for Kerry, etc.

Basically the blue collar, christian Democrats. You know, the kind of people both sides fight over every election.

If you want to set your sights on the enemy, point that laser towards Dobson...
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:47 PM
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38. Great minds think alike!
I said the same thing when you did! :hi:
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:48 PM
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39. I would argue that Dobson is the misadministration
These guys aren't...although they most certainly helped it come along...
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:50 PM
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40. These guys LOVE Dobson!
They get to hit their kids without the guilt messing up God's plan.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:46 PM
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35. Oh, I know.
It's from before this administration. Back when we could afford stuff like this. These people ARE the administration now.
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