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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:57 AM
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James Bond really is the best at what he does!
Edited on Sat Aug-06-05 12:58 AM by Rabrrrrrr
I'm watching Tomorrow Never Dies.

Love the opening scene with the terrorist arms bazaar and Bond blowing it all to shit and escaping in the fighter jet.

He's just too fucking amazing!

Unreal? Sure! But why not have heroes who consistently do the impossible, and never get ruffled while doing it?

And Jonathan Pryce in this one makes the most excellent villain. What a superb job of playing the character he does!
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:59 AM
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1. That's the best of the "new" Bond openings.
I also like the opening in the Halle Berry Bond flick, in North Korea, but I think the rest of the movie was ass.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 01:00 AM
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2. I haven't seen that one yet.
My fave opening of the new bonds is The World is Not Enough, with the fight in the bank, then the exlosion at MI6, and the chase with the boat through the Thames.

partly why I like that one so much is that all the chase stuff with the boat in that one was done for real. No CGI, no tricks.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 01:05 AM
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3. A guy from near here coordinated that scene.
Dan Crosby. He's also stunt coordinated the Venice canal chase in the new version of The Italian Job. I've worked with him a few times; he and his son are probably the best marine coordinators in the movie biz.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 01:11 AM
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4. The old bond, sean connery, was so anti tech
even though he was always given those gadgets, he never really had that much faith in them...

If you really look at it, in the climax scene for every monie he made, he would just start trashing the place hoping he could destroy the stuff...

Very brutish, very primative
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 01:14 AM
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5. That's more like Flemming's Bond.
The Bond in the books was more of a violent assassin. He was confliced by his duties and responsibilities, particularly after the death of his wife.

I'd like to see one Bond movie be faithful to the original books, but they wouldn't be very exciting (and Bond would be datedly racist and violent).
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 01:24 AM
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6. Yea I read them when I was a kid
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 02:17 AM
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7. Everything after Moonraker is pure crapola
NT
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 02:23 AM
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8. Really? Moonraker is the biggest piece of shit of the entire
Bond franchise.

Pierce Brosnan is a BRILLIANT Bond, and his movies, except one of them the name of which I can't remember, are awesome!
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 02:25 AM
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9. I love Moonraker for its over the top absurdity
Brosnan couldn't carry Moore or Connery's jock on his best day. Everytime I see him I'm reminded of that dreadful "Remington Steele" show.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 02:27 AM
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10. Ugh. Roger Moore ruined Bond.
It took Brosnan to bring him back.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 02:29 AM
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11. Bullfeathers
I guess to those born in 1990, Remington Steele is the original Bond.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 02:37 AM
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15. Hey, I'm 38!
Roger Moore snowboarding to the Beach Boys on a single snowmobile skid, or ducking into a tent at a Soviet circus only to appear moments later in full clown makeup/costume... that says it all.

Oh, no, wait...it doesn't. This does:







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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 02:42 AM
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17. Yeah, Jaws was totally ridiculous.
and then his love affair and "redemption" in the next one was awful.

Pure shit drivel writing.

The 70s were such a sucky time for so many movies. Every writer was fucked up on stupid drugs, and it shows.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 02:46 AM
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19. Richard Keil (Jaws) is a HUGE (literally) fundie.
Jello Biafra tells this tale of "infiltrating" an evangelist trade show, and meeting Kiel, who was trying to raise funding for a biblical epic, starring himself as a giant who meets Christ and is Redeemed.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 02:47 AM
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20. In the voice of Johnny Carson....
I did not know that.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 02:34 AM
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13. No, the writers during Moore's time ruined Bond.
I think that if Moore had been given the proper scripts, like the Brosnan films, he would have been a really good Bond.

it's so sad that he is saddled with the shittiest years of the shittiest writing for Bond movies. The last bunch of them totally blow (though Octopussy is kinda cool).
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 02:51 AM
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21. No.... A View to a Kill is GREAT!


"Anyone else wanna drop out?"
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 02:55 AM
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22. Walken is a really good villain IMO
And he was very solid. Grace Jones kind of drug that one down though. That and the Duran Duran soundtrack.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 02:33 AM
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12. Roger Moore - he's a tough one. He was a great Bond, but, alas,
the writers at the time were such shit.

I'd love to villify Moore, but I can't.

However, I will say this - it wasn't until AFTER Moore that Bond went back to what Bond is supposed to be.

The first couple Moore films were excellent Bond - but then it went totally to shit.

Even Moore lamented that he ever got involved in it.

And then fuckin' what's his name (Dalton?) came in, and new writers, and gave us a Connery-level Bond. And Brosnan has kicked itup a couple notches.

In my opinion (and I'm one who first knew Bond threw Connery), Brosnan is the best Bond ever, though his stories aren't quite is wonderful as the best of Connery's.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 02:36 AM
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14. Timothy Dalton was his name
And he was awful. I don't like all of Moore's Bond films. Octupussy comes to mind. Connery is untouchable IMO as Bond. We're leaving out George Lasenby.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 02:42 AM
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16. Dalton never wanted to be Bond...
...he even said as much, upon signing for the first Dalton/Bond venture. As a Shakespearean actor, he felt 'mainstream' cinema was beneath him.

He sounds like an all-around prat, actually.

But I do like his Shakespearean performances. At least he's good at what he likes.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 02:45 AM
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18. Incidentally I guess Hugh Jackmon (spell) will be the new one?
NT
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 06:39 AM
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24. They got really silly with "Moonraker"
REALLY silly. Not just the OTT outer space stuff, but they went overboard with the humor. They used Jaws as somic relief in spots.

Horrible movie.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 06:37 AM
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23. The best opening was from "The Spy Who Loved Me"
Edited on Sat Aug-06-05 06:37 AM by terrya
Bond sking down the mountain (accompanied by great music by Marvin Hamlisch), being chased by guys shooting at him...and eventually Bond skiing off the cliff, opening his parachute (of course he was carrying a parachute:-))...and said parachute has the Union Jack on the top. Great stuff!
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 10:14 AM
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25. That is a good opening!
Does he ski over someone's lunch table in that one?
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