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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 02:52 PM
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So I rented "Midnight Cowboy"
I really didn't think it was that good. It had to great characters, but that was pretty well it.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 02:55 PM
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1. CONTEXT
remember the america it was made in.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 02:57 PM
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2. An America that watched shitty movies?
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 03:03 PM
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4. an america that was just beginning its "serious" cinema
that kind of naturalism was pretty foreign to hollywood at that time. compare it with, say, the level of technicolor artifice in a Cecil B. DeMille movie!

& cmon, it wasn't THAT bad. the songs were good. people will look back on Goodwill Hunting & say the same. well, i won't, but i hate Robin Williams.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 03:06 PM
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6. I agree. i liked the movie though it was bleak...nt
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 03:00 PM
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3. Funny, but Midnight Cowboy is one of my all-time favorite movies.
I think Dustin Hoffman was superb as "Ratzo Rizto" and Jon Voight expressed his naiveness so well. I must say however, that if this is the first time you are seeing it, I can understand bec I saw it again for about the 5th time 6 months ago and I realized how "dated" it was.

Don't tramble on my Midnight Cowboy...thus music...the actors...the story.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 03:06 PM
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5. Very dated but still a ground breaking movie....
After all, Brenda Vecarro was in it ......

No seriously it was the first movie to openly deal with the power of New York to attract Dreamers and what really happened to most of those dreamers once they woke up the next morning on a sheetless mattress
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 03:07 PM
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7. Sounds like me every day.
I really should buy some sheets.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 03:09 PM
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8. They help sustain the dream, Man
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 07:37 PM
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17. watch out for dust mites
:hide:
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 03:09 PM
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9. I agree with you. I can understand why people wouldn't like it
for the reason you stated.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 03:11 PM
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10. It was a conscious attempt to rip off Andy Warhol
and the Factory's trash aesthetic in film making. Warhol thought they should pay him royalties. It is a great film, regardless of how "dated" it might seem. It was rated "X" when it was released, and is still the only X-rated film to win an academy award for best picture.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 03:16 PM
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11. Think about different scenes in the movie: The first lady he goes with
and how she cries and he ends up paying HER! We knew Joe Buck was in deep trouble if he expected to survive in NEW York City.





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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 03:32 PM
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12. "You know...I've got this damn thing figured out"
"I'm going to get a job, maybe something outside, cause hell I aint no kind of a damn hustler".
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 06:02 PM
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13. You just didn't get it is all. It was a great movie because...
after all the really terrible hard times they went through, they remained friends to the end. And, what I really loved is how Jon Voight's character never, ever gave up. He had it hard growing up. He had it hard trying to make it in NY. But he was very optimistic always in the face of unsurmountable odds and adversity.

What it taught me is that we get wrapped up in really shallow shit. And we let really shallow simple shit get us down. If those two guys could keep on keeping on after what they endured, so can I. ;D
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 06:40 PM
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14. The last scene of the movie...
always makes me cry. :cry:

I'm sorry to disagree with you- I think it is one of the most brilliant movies about human struggle ever made.
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LouisianaLiberal Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 07:34 PM
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16. A brilliant movie
Edited on Sat Aug-06-05 07:41 PM by LouisianaLiberal
I've always thought that the script was somewhat flawed, but the direction, the acting were perfect. The role of Joe Buck was originally offered to Michael Sarazan, but Jon Voight was perfect.

When Toots Thielmann (sp?) plays the harmonica over the scene in which Joe is watching an inane TV show, vaguely trying to make sense of things, but not understanding, and then walks 42nd St., night changing to day and back again, it always brings a tear to my eye. And the ending was perfection.

The scene in the coffe shop and Joe's reaction to the woman and her son, and the scene with John McGiver's religeous rant are alone enough to make it a brillian film.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 06:44 PM
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15. you had to be there
it was a breakthrough movie at the time and it still holds up
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