OK, I got the 'multiple choice' spam from my usually non-political brother

[Richardo]

You know the one, it lists a terror act then lists 4 choices for who caused it. Choice "D" is always 'Muslim male between 18 and 50'; because RW'ers think that only Muslims can be terrorists.

Here's my idea: I've started a post called "The questions they left off the test" and want to 'Reply All' with the following questions:

A) 168 people died in a terrorist boming in Oklahoma City in 1995. The terrorists were:

a) Superman
b) Easter Bunny
c) Muslim males between 18-50.
d) Non-Muslim male between 18-50.

From 1920, Great Britain and Northern Ireland experienced numerous fatal terrorist bombings and shootings. The terrorists were:

a) Superman
b) Easter Bunny
c) Muslim male between 18-50.
d) Non-Muslim male between 18-50.

In 1963, the President John F. Kennedy was assassinated. The assassin was:

a) Superman
b) Easter Bunny
c) Muslim male between 18-50.
d) Non-Muslim male between 18-50.


Name me some other 20th century (non-Muslim) acts of terror.


On edit (thanks JimmyJazz) I'm changing the answers to 'Non-Muslim males... etc etc'.

[fudge stripe cookays]

1. In 1996...

at the Atlanta Olympics, a bomb was set off by:

Christian male between 18-50.

[Richardo]

2. Thanks fsc - that was in my first draft and I forgot it!

:yourock:

[DU9598]

7. Also

The abortion clinic and gay night club bombings by Rudolph.

Wouldn't the KKK be considered terrorists to most African-Americans?

[Richardo]

11. Yes they would.

I'll add the estimated 4,000 lyching victims too

[fudge stripe cookays]

3. In the 1970s-80s

mail bombs were sent to various individuals around the United States by:

Christian male between 18-50....

[Richardo]

5. Ted!

Thanks again. You RULE this time. :)

[shoelace414]

6. are you talking about the uni-bomber?

[Richardo]

9. Yep.

[shoelace414]

4. abortion bombing.. or 1996 olympic bombing

I believe same guy did both of them.

[fudge stripe cookays]

8. Yep, Rudolph...

I mentioned one in #1. Couldn't remember when the abortion bombing was exactly.

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[MalibuChloe]

10. Shoot, I did that once in response to that e-mail,

but I didn't keep them....I'll try to remember what was on there.

[Kali]

12. yeah I got this and came to DU for help too!

Here was my reply to that e-mail:


The ISSUE deserves serious discussion.

Not the best logic here though, when events are selectively chosen with the same answer to "illustrate" a "pattern" How many (Muslim? by this the author must mean non-white - or will there be religious inquisition as well?) young men between 17 and 40 are there on the planet? How many bombings/shootings/assasinations/kidnappings etc have been committed by white males (Christians, or so they claim, no less)?

By this logic I would recommend we preemptively lock up any white male about to get a divorce - aren't they always going berserk and shooting up innocent folks?

Those are YOUR rights too, that those "dunder-heads" are trying to protect.


Oh and just off the top of my head:

jfk, mlk, weather underground, unibomber, ok city, charles whitman, columbine HS, the IRA, son of sam, john wayne gacy, hitler

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then I included a set of photos from a poster here at DU (sorry haven't learned how to do them back here yet)
This young man is Egyptian


This gentleman is Jamaican




This cutie is Yemeni



This young girl is Cuban





For future reference:

This man is Iranian




This guy is Irish



Get the picture?

[Richardo]

17. Thanks, Kali

Excellent.

[fudge stripe cookays]

13. In 1981, someone attempted to assassinate President Reagan...

You guessed it!

Christian male between 18-50....

[Richardo]

14. And Ford - Twice.

But we'd have to change the answer to 'females' :)

[fudge stripe cookays]

15. Dude...

we're totally on the same page today. :D

I almost typed that and then went...WAIT! Nope, they were chicks.

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[MalibuChloe]

16. Slavery....

The Holocaust...

and you could get statistics from the Department of Justice re: how many rapes and murders are committed by white males.

And don't forget David Koresh and other cult leaders.

[bertha katzenengel]

18. don't forget the Alabama church bombing that killed four girls -- 1964?

Quote from a deacon at Mrs. V.'s church that day, when he saw her and some friends crying:

"Don't know whatch'all are cryin' for, it was only four little nigger girls."

[Richardo]

20. Yes - the civil rights era is full of proper white "Christian" males

is it not?

[bertha katzenengel]

24. Yep. And a lot of those proper white "Christian" males, if they were

honest with us all, would reveal that they still feel that God never meant for the races to mix, and that it's one of the reasons this country's going to hell in a handbasket. :eyes:

My message to them: grow up.

[fudge stripe cookays]

27. Sounds like my OLD mom....

before I got her to grow a conscience.

I had been raised in a racist household, and wasn't ALLOWED to watch "Roots!"

I was very sheltered from anything that showed blacks; I was sent to Catholc school at 10 (for four years before high school) so I wouldn't be bused.

When I first saw "Mississppi Burning", I was completely blown away. I went into the other room, stunned, and just sat there like a stump. She asked me what was wrong, and I told her about the movie, and how horrified I was.

"It was just a bunch of niggers," she told me. That was 1989.

She has since become a human being with my coaching, and by last election, was a Deaniac.

[bertha katzenengel]

35. How did you get her to grow a conscience?! Wow, Cookays.

I am amazed. You rock.

[fudge stripe cookays]

42. Thanks Bert!

Started off slow....I was appalled when she said that to me. We'd used the word in my house all the time growing up...

My dad grew up in Chicago, and mom from Belleville, IL (very German Catholic, racist place across the Mississpp from St. Louis). It was nothing new. But after that night, I was FURIOUS. FURIOUS that she had turned me into a little racist without me even realizing it.

I turned to her and snapped, "If you EVER use that word in front of me again, I'll walk OUT of the room!"

Then, I did. I was absolutely livid. I don't think I talked to her for 2 days.

From then on, whenever she said it, I'd walk out of the room. It took her awhile to realize. She'd get mad, come after me and say, "How dare you walk away! I was talking to you!"

And I'd say, "I told you that if you used that word again, I'd leave. I did."

So that was step one. Remove the offending term from her vocabulary completely, so I could discuss "black people" with her instead of some inhuman group.

So then, we moved onto the THOSE PEOPLE way of thinking. I'd say, "What about Cathy? What about the Joneses?" I'd bring up really nice neighbors we had. Or coworkers. Or people out somewhere. "Well, they're different," she'd say.

"How are they different?" I'd reply.

She could never quite come up with a good answer.

I'd start conversations with the lady behind us in line at the grocery store or our waitress in a restaurant and joke around with them. I MADE her see these people as JUST LIKE HER.

And when I moved to Dallas, and started working downtown, I was a minority. Just about everyone I worked with was black. So they taught me a lot, and I once again, I passed it on. I had a close friend who was black, and mom liked her.

Finally, she realized what I'd been talling her all along. Several years ago, when I was really depressed about things, she cheered me up by saying that she was so proud of me, because I had made her into a better person...with all my passion for justice and my activism and all that...she said she knew that if my dad could see me now, that he would be REALLY proud of me.

That's part of what keeps me going.
:cry:
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[bertha katzenengel]

44. Wow.

Just . . . wow. Thanks for telling me how you did it. :hug:

Talk about "you must be the change you wish to see in the world."

[fudge stripe cookays]

58. If each one of us could just work on 1 other person....

That phrase is so perfect.

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[fudge stripe cookays]

19. Got a bunch of people to believe he was Jesus Christ....

and killed a bunch of people.

(Sort of) Christian male between 18-50 (Manson)

OR

Got a bunch of people to believe he was Jesus Christ...and GOT a bunch of people killed.

Christian male between 18-50 (Koresh)

[Richardo]

22. And Jim Jones

The original kool-aid purveyor and his 900+ victims. (Plus political assassination of a California congressman.)

[fudge stripe cookays]

29. There ya go! n/t

[Jackpine Radical]

21. Birmingham church bombing

Medgar Evers assassination
MLK & RFK assassinations

[Richardo]

28. Actually, the RFK killing is on the RW 'test' because Sirhan

...is assumed to be a Muslim.

[JimmyJazz]

23. I hate to be a nit-picker, but how do you know that the people you

named are "christian?" - "Caucasian" would be more applicable except in an instance where the person was committing the crimes in the name of God, such as Rudolph. It's just an observation.

[Richardo]

25. Not a nit-pick. A good point. But...

How about 'non-Muslim'?

Actually I think that works better - sets off the contrarian argument better.

Thanks, JJ

[fudge stripe cookays]

30. How about Ted Bundy?

AND he was a Republican't!

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[bertha katzenengel]

26. An excellent observation. I'm sure Richardo will note it!

[shugh514]

31. Sniper who killed

abortion doctor Barnett Slepian in Buffalo in 1998.

[Bunny]

32. You got Hitler, right? Stalin, too?

Lots of good info in this thread!

[Richardo]

33. Throw in Mao and 'Paul' Pot too.

Now that I've changed the answer to 'non-Muslim' males.

Note: "Paul Pot" is my favorite freeperism OF ALL TIME!!1!! I'm Series!!!1!

[Bunny]

34. Yeah, Paul Pot was HUGH!!!1!!! Seriesly!

I had thought of Pol Pot, but I was thinking that you wanted to keep it to just white guys doing the killin'.

[fudge stripe cookays]

43. Great answer.

Those are "hugh!"

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[Jackpine Radical]

56. Paul Pot?

I thought he played a minor role in a Cheech & Chong movie.

Actually, I missed hearing about Paul 'til now--a truly beautiful example of FReeper erudition. When did it happen?

[Richardo]

57. I think it was a one-time deal. I happened across it on one of the ...

...flame fests that get posted here occasionally. I can't even remember what the subject was, but it was during the election campaign last year.

But I'm never letting it go - it makes me laugh every time. :rofl:

[tenshi816]

36. The Oklahoma bombing.

Timothy McVeigh

[Richardo]

37. Yep. Got that one in my OP.

:thumbsup:

[tenshi816]

39. Oops - my bad, sorry!

Don't know how I missed it, especially since it was the first thing in your OP - too much reading already today, I guess.

Edited because I posted the message before I finished!

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

38. don't forget the 1/4 million dead in Gulf I and 125k in Gulf II

[myrna minx]

40. Don't forget the good ol' boys who crucified Matthew Shepard.

http://www.matthewsplace.com/

[XemaSab]

41. Don't post the RFK assassination

n/t

[northzax]

45. well, how about

the 16th Street Baptist Church? or the King David Hotel? November 17 in Greece? the Red Army Faction? Italy's Red Brigades?

[Richardo]

46. All good.

I'd like to have at least twice as many non-Muslin examples as the RW spam has Muslim examples. :thumbsup:

[northzax]

47. the thing to be careful of

and you could include SDS and the Weathermen, I suppose, is that many of these groups profess leftist sympathies, and idelogical or financial support from the old USSR and it's satellites. be ready for that.

[Richardo]

49. I'll be selective.

Thanks for the caveat.

[tjwmason]

48. The Basque terrorists ETA

The one's which the Spannish government tried to blame, the Red brigades, Corsican separatists, the French nationalists opposeed to pulling out of Algeria, there was even a very small-scale Welsh group (I think that they blew up a couple of post-boxes).

That's just working from memory.

[fudge stripe cookays]

52. Anybody mention Baader Meinhof yet? n/t

[Richardo]

53. No. Quien es?

Pardon my freepish ignorance.

[fudge stripe cookays]

59. Here you go sweetie....

http://www.baader-meinhof.com/

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[JohnLocke]

50. Here's a few

http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/

[Richardo]

51. .

:wow:

How much do :yourock: ? :thumbsup:

[Zero Division]

54. Every ethnic, religious, or political conflict of a violent nature

includes acts that could be described as "terrorism".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_militant_organizations

The above link contains a list of some groups that have been referred to as terrorist organizations. Note the sidebar that lists the many different types of terrorism.

[Richardo]

55. Bingo. This is the Doomsday Device.

Thanx, DarkBlue.

[Orsino]

60. "Shock and awe": the invasion and conquest of Iraq. n/t