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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:42 PM
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Should I use my student loans to go to the DC meet up?
As I am now considered a resident of Arizona, I only have to pay resident tuition, so I don't necessarily need student loans to cover my tuition, plus I have a decent surplus to boot. However, I am still offered them as part of my financial aid award.

Let's just say I would have enough to make it to DC for a few days.

It is tempting. For sure. :)

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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:44 PM
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1. Let's just say this...the DC meetup doesn't happen every day.
Just sayin'. :-)

If there's no penalty to do this, then go for it, IMO.
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wallwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:46 PM
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2. With all respect intended, I disagree.
You don't realize what a huge burden student loans are until you have been paying them off for a number of years. Save the money if at all possible. Use it to reduce your debt.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:04 PM
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15. I owe a lot already
so much I will not mention it right here.

40,000...... (higher)
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wallwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 07:15 PM
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66. If you spend foolishly now,
You will regret it for many years to come...
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:48 PM
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3. You mean we are FINALLY going to meet! *swoon*
:hi:
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:49 PM
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6. Yep.
:hi: :-)
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:48 PM
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4. The way I look at is would you take out a loan to go to DC, b/c
that is basically what you are doing in a sense. If it is really worth it to you, then do it, but you could also use that money to pay back some of it!
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:49 PM
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5. dude, like what's your major?
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:02 PM
Response to Reply #5
11. pretty useless double major
creative writing/Political Science

plus, I have a Video Production degree.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:03 PM
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13. then by all means use your loans to go to DC
It fits every category! You'll be furthering your edumacation.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:47 PM
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37. I could maybe weasel some extra credit out of it...hmmmm.....nt
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 05:19 PM
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52. it sounds like a creative political writing project to me!
write about all the drinking and debauchery parts

and report on the "bush sucks" parts by commenting on the rise of online political communities and their effect on politics . . .
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:53 PM
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7. As long as you're not screwing yourself up by doing that then
HELL YES! Come to DC!
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:01 PM
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9. I'm staying with you
:)
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:36 PM
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31. Rent is $100/night.
:rofl:
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:42 PM
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34. psh you better
Edited on Wed Aug-10-05 02:42 PM by Wetzelbill
be one helluva cook and give out plenty of back rubs in that case. :)
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:47 PM
Response to Reply #34
38. If you mean cook as in order a pizza
and backrubs as in beer, then I gotcha. ;)
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #38
43. Sold!
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 03:03 PM
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46. BAM!
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:54 PM
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8. Consider how much you THINK you're going to spend
If you can do this less than $1000, I say go for it.

If you do this and blow all of the student loans & surplus we'll think you're George Bush since that's what he would do

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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:02 PM
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10. BTW, consider this - I think he could do the trip for under $500
Flight would be $208 Phoenix to BWI roundtrip.

We have people staying at the Braxton which is a Hostel/Hotel so the rooms are cheap. That would probably be another $60/night

He would then have $150 left for incidentals - food, metro, booze.

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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:03 PM
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12. I know I was thinking it could be relatively cheap
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:05 PM
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16. I think if you keep it under $500 then you should
This is going to be a massive protest and probably the largest gathering of DUers to date. What I don't want is for you to spend money you don't have and get yourself into financial trouble. But if you're not looking to spend your accomadations on first class tickets, Four-SEason hotel and lobster 3 meals a day, then I think you could do it.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:11 PM
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25. well, I wouldn't spend anything
other than my extra student loan cash, I wouldn't even touch my surplus cash from my other financial aid awards. I would be all paid up on bills, books and tuition before I'd even roll with this extra stuff. But, I also may have other commitments too, so I have to check those as well.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:37 PM
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32. You have no commitments more important than coming to DC.
I demand it! :D
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:04 PM
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14. that's a tough one
adding more debt is always a questionable decision. i hate being in debt.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:06 PM
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19. no kidding
Plus, I may go to L.A. too. My friend was nominated for a Technical Emmy so he wants me to meet up with him and some of our director/producer friends there. I'm debating what I'll do.
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:07 PM
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22. yikes
tough choices.
is this the friend you did some work with on the short?
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:13 PM
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27. I did some with
him on a different short film. Actually, a couple different projects. I haven't seen him or my other struggling filmmaker friends in about 4 years this fall. So yeah, tough choices all around.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:06 PM
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20. HE did say he had a surplus AND his tuition was covered
Even I checked out flight information and it was damn cheap. I'm half tempted to book a flight to Phoenix and hang out there for a few days, I expected the flight to be about $150 more than what I found
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:23 PM
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29. Well... A surplus that's not really a surplus... it's a loan.
If he doesn't spend it, he can use the money to pay back the loan.

I'm too risk averse... I wouldn't use a loan to pay for a trip like this. I just wouldn't. :shrug:
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:45 PM
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36. psh.....
you're just scared to meet me. :P

Intimidated by my maleness. (well, that does it, I'm not going since I may have just hastened imminent death)

:)
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:49 PM
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40. Right...
:crazy:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 07:48 PM
Response to Reply #36
68. You saying you could scare MisU straight?
Hell, we'll take up a collection for that one! Wonder what the odds are?
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 01:57 AM
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70. oh no way could I even
compete with NSMA. Not in a million years. :) I'm not even in the same league. :)

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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:48 PM
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39. although I should say I'm pretty risk averse myself.....
In the end, I may not be able to go through with it. :)
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:50 PM
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42. From another post, I understand you already have a hefty loan
stacked up against you ($40K!!). It just seems irresponsible to get yourself more into debt for this. Just my perspective.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:05 PM
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17. Hell yea, I used my student loan for liquor and drugs....
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:07 PM
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21. jeez
I have been pretty good regarding that. Of course, I never started college until I was almost 25, I was relatively mature by then.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:10 PM
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24. Didn't stop me........
You can learn more in one night sucking the delicious smoke out of a bong shaped like a pair of titties that you can from three Weeks in a physics class...

It's all just theories anyway....., Right!!!!!

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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:14 PM
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28. hell yeah
you're a smart fucker that's for sure. Maybe I should listen to you more often. :)

Pass the pipe. :smoke:
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:39 PM
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33. Duuuuuude........
Yea, you better go Cause I am and I'll get to give you a head rub for not finding a treasurer yet.....
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:49 PM
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41. good lord
it seems everybody I try to contact has changed numbers or something. That's what I get for not keeping touch with people back home.
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:45 PM
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35. I'm not advocating sex, drugs and rock-n-roll for everyone....
Edited on Wed Aug-10-05 02:45 PM by liberalitch
...but it certainly worked for me! (I miss hunter)
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:07 PM
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51. August 20
Keep that date in mind. HST gets launched.

We just got our Ralph Steadman t-shirts from the Flying Dog brewery. We're getting launched with him .................
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:05 PM
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18. will wonders never cease
AND here I thought we would never meet ~ IF it isn't going to cause you any lasting finical grief ~ YES! come to DC and meet everyone who can make the trip!
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:08 PM
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23. just a few hundred bucks
but I may have other engagements too. I may have to go to L.A. or Seattle for different reasons, so I don't know.
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:12 PM
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26. I'm sure you'll be welcome to share a room with some of the DUers.
where there's a will there's a way


come and join us in DC if you can


I'll even buy you a beer if you're there
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pdx_prog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:31 PM
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30. no....
for obvious reasons..:)
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:59 PM
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44. I should warn you all though. I'll probably get drunk and fight...
somebody like Charlie Rose or something. For DU's reputation you might want me to stay home. :)
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 03:37 PM
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47. Bill
I was married to a man who boxed in the Golden Gloves ... you'll never hit anyone without a reason. AND from what I've learned about you in our shared PMs .... you aren't likely to HIT anyone while you're with DU in DC.




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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 03:51 PM
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48. I'm a former combat athlete and a short person...
never rule anything out. :)
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:00 PM
Response to Reply #48
50. have it your way
who am I to tell you anything




BTW .... I think short people are cool
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 05:37 PM
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54. we are cool
Just kind of wild and crazy.

However, I am pretty laid back now.
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 03:02 PM
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45. No.
It's tempting and a worthy cause, but put the same monies in a high- interest account and you'll be that much farther ahead when it comes to paying the damned things off.

Sure, it's nice to meet fellow liberals. But paying off student loans has made all but slaves out of more than a few former students.

:hi:
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 03:53 PM
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49. consider it an education
please come to DC. smile from me
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 05:28 PM
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53. Do it
I'll tell Mom you're studying in the dorm:)
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 05:39 PM
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55. always trying to corrupt me
:evilgrin:
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #55
60. Seriously
It's up to you. If it were me, I'd probably head for Crawford instead, but that's just me. Just don't put yourself in a financial hole that you won't be able to get out of..
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 05:43 PM
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56. Do it '60's style-
hitch hike, or share-a-ride, go w/ others, commune with the group... do all that hippie shit....

we need to re-establish the Yippies and the Panther Party et al...

ALL POWER TO THE PEOPLE, PERIOD!
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 05:45 PM
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57. Definitely good use for your educational funds.....
...and maybe you can write a paper about your experiences! Is there a College Dem group? ROAD TRIP :woohoo:
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 05:50 PM
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59. There IS a college group.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 05:47 PM
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58. So, have you made a decision?
I'd love to meet you, but I understand the point a lot of people make here about using school loan money not being a good idea.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 06:00 PM
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61. not yet.....
I have been leaning towards no all day though. :)
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 06:30 PM
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62. Well, if you can't make it
then we need to arrange some sort of meeting for sometime. I think it would be fun.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 06:41 PM
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64. well, I may be back there
for an internship. I will for sure if I don't win my election, but if I do then I'll maybe take an internship when in DC when I'm not in school and when the Lege is out of session, so I plan on being in DC at some point in the next year or two.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 06:44 PM
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65. Cool! Let me know when you're in town.
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Dastard Stepchild Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 06:33 PM
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63. advice from someone who makes poor financial decisions
I would totally go. It won't be THAT much money, and it won't be what breaks you when you pay off your loans. So, were it me, my tickets would be booked already. But, as I warned above, I am always guilty of making somewhat poor financial decisions. But I have a fun life because of it. :)

Well...I have fun now. I'll be paying for it all later...

:scared:
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 07:45 PM
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67. Which of the following would you feel most strongly?
Edited on Wed Aug-10-05 07:49 PM by I Have A Dream
-- If you went to DC, kick yourself when you finally have to start paying off those loans and regret the money spent even though you got to meet all of the fellow Duers.

-- If you don't go to DC, kick yourself for not having gone and wish you had spent the money.


Use this to make your decision. My guess is that you'll go if you can arrange it time-wise.
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cmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 07:53 PM
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69. No - organize something on campus
You will make a bigger splash that way, and save money.
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