I am so ticked off about the Royal Scandal!!!!!!!!

[joeybee12]

We all know what it is--consensual gay sex. Big friggin' deal! Of course, there's the point that he was married at the time, HOWEVER, he cheated on Di with Camila, and Di cheated on him with probably more than one guy.

And now, sincce it's gay sex, it's an "extremely vile" accusation and could "spell the end for the monarchy."

Is the Church of England that homophobic? Are the British? I tend to think no, but it really pisses me off the tone the media is taking with this.

It's latent homophobia in the media, if you ask me. And even if you don't ask me, I'll tell ya anyway!

[dawgman]

1. the new arch-bishop of Canterbury is in favor of homo-sexual

priests/bishops/clergy. Just for info.

[joeybee12]

2. Then why the big deal?????????

[Rowdyboy]

3. Its just the British tabloid press

Give 'em a few weeks, they'll get over it. The Royals will be around for a few more years anyway.

[cally]

4. I agree

the tabloids are trying to make this into a big scandal and using homophobia to hype the story. I just don't see that it will work all that well---that's my hope anyway. The end of the monarchy over this, no way.

[joeybee12]

6. Yeha, but it bothers me that they're being so damn homophobic

Especially since any British boy who has gone to public school probably has had an experience or two.

That's the impression I get from British literature anyway.

[jonoboy]

19. remember the tabloids are Murdoch driven in the UK

the charming ex-Aussie that brings you the icon of truth FOX..you wonder why we call him the 'Dirty Digger'..he has reduced the once great English media to the lowest common demoninator..first by buying the ghastly Sun newspaper, then the Times and now he is constantly attacking the BBC wanting it privatised. He owns 70% of print media in Australia. He looks set to dominate media in Asia and China with Star TV.
This is one of the most dangerous men in the world to free speech.

( sorry but we tried to give you Dame Edna as compensation)

[joeybee12]

20. You must take Dame Edna back!

As Apu said, "Oh yes we did, it was last year on that stupid Dame Edna special."

Remember that episode and line?

[jonoboy]

21. ok.you can have Hugh Jackman instead

[SOteric]

5. You could be right, but I have a different take on it.

While agree that Charles being homosexual or bisexual shouldn't be a scandal, for the Prince of Wales to have sex with a place employee, willingly or otherwise is a scandal. (See Clinton, a willing Lewinski, etc.)

It could spell the end of the monarchy, not merely because it involves a same sex encounter. The Diana/Camilla, Fergie/Toe-sucking issue came up at a time when many in the U.K. were already questioning the role of the monarchy in British politics and society and considering it's end. That the scandal brought unwanted attention and made British politics something of a laughingstock didn't help the cause of keeping the royalty around.

Then Prince Edward's young wife made some ill-advised comments which were chronicled in the media and there was even more speculation that the monarchy was an expensive indulgence of some fairly self-involved people and should be dispensed with forthwith.

It was generally felt after all the furor died down that if everything went fairly smoothly from here on out, the question wouldn't likely come up again in Elizabeth's lifetime. Now the sex-lives of the British royalty is once again gaining unwanted attention and the anti-monarchist are firing up their spin machines.

[joeybee12]

7. It's hard to judge when you don't live there,

because without living through the other scandals, it's hard to gauge the intensity of this one.

I tend to think it will die down since it's going to come down to one guy's word against another's.

As for Edward's wife, no wonder she blabs--she's very unhappy because she's obviously not getting any at home!

[mlawson]

8. I agree, it's a "class" thing.

The very idea, with a SERVANT!! :o If the partner had been Lord X, it wouldn't have raised an eyebrow.

Just like Edward VIII with Wallis Simpson. Was the brouhaha over that really because she was divorced, or was it because she was AMERICAN??? :o :o :o

[joeybee12]

9. I'm willing to bet it was more because she was an American

They can be pretty snooty over there. Then again, so can we.

[mlawson]

10. Yup. Supposedly the Queen Mum was Edward's biggest foe.

She and the other 'royal ladies' announced privately that they would NEVER accept 'her' as Queen. Quen Mary was also adamant. But instead of fighting, Edward wimped out. Such opposition would only have made me far more stubborn: "I am King, and I will marry anyone I fucking well please!!!!". But I guess it's easy to say that now.

[joeybee12]

11. It also was a different time--and the Queen Mom, despite her public

persona, I gather, really could be a ball-buster.

[mlawson]

12. Oh, yeah. She and her daughters were enormously popular.

Her husband, George VI, was shy and backward, not raised to be King. Queen Mum later blamed his early death from exhaustion from the responsibility. In reality he smoked himself to death, as did Edward.

[joeybee12]

15. She knew how to work publi opinion, you gotta give her that

And quite frankly, her husband's popularity was due to her. She said, "The King will never leave England, and I will never leave the King."

He didn't come out with that line himself.

[Ophelia]

13. I could care less

The whole royal family seems rather dysfunctional to me.

[Maple]

14. It has nothing to do with

homophobia.

It's the lifestyle in general that the royals lead...and the population is paying for it.

Anti-monarchists want what they consider a mediaeval institution gone...and now that the very popular queen mum is dead, the attacks have begun in earnest.

http://www.throneout.com/royal_scandal.htm

This site is currently concentrating on this scandal, but normally they show pictures and provide evidence that neither Andrew nor Edward are Phillip's sons, that Phillip has slept with everyone, and that Harry isn't Dianes son.

They also list numerous other affairs, scandals and so on to show the British people that it is time to retire the monarchy.

Expect these attacks until the UK is a republic.

[Hieronymus]

16. The Church of England isn't homophobic

but Elizabeth is, and she's the head of the Church.
She dragged her feet in knighting Noel Coward, because he was "friendly" with her Uncle Edward, the king who gave up his throne. Did Noel ever become a knight?
It's been said that Phillip has another family, down the road from the palace.:eyes:

[Maple]

17. She doesn't choose

who to knight. The govt does.

Most royal servants are gay...she is not homophobic.

[greatauntoftriplets]

18. One of the queen's closest retainers was a gay man.

Forget the first name, but his last name was Plunkett.