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Wed Aug-10-05 06:40 PM
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Enough Already--Stop Re-Making GOOD Films, damnit!!! |
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Watching Eyewitness News Hollywood report. They are remaking 'The Omen.' Why oh why?!?
This IS blasphemy! I won't see it, and I hope it is a miserable failure! This is blatant bullshit--there have got to be people in that godforsaken, crappy ass town that have written stories that can be told on film aside from the ones that have already been successful. What the hell is wrong with these loser hacks in hollywood!!!
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Wed Aug-10-05 06:42 PM
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1. Hollywood is all out of ideas. |
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It's all sequels, remakes, and adaptations of novels and comic books lately, in case you haven't noticed. Either creativity is at a low, or they've decided it's easier and cheaper than taking a chance on optioning anything new.
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Wed Aug-10-05 06:51 PM
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Either creativity is at a low, or they've decided it's easier and cheaper than taking a chance on optioning anything new.
Creativity is never low. It's not just cheap and easy, but you know if you remake Favorite TV Show of 1974 you'll get X number of viewers.
People knock themselves out thinking up great ideas and scripts for movies, but corporatism stifles creativity here as it does in the music industry and everything it's slimy fingers touch.
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Wed Aug-10-05 07:15 PM
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17. True--a bit off topic but still related. |
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Edited on Wed Aug-10-05 07:28 PM by bliss_eternal
I was reading an article w/a Hollywood actress, where she was kind of marvelling about the other Hollywood in a box syndrome, not casting women over the age of 30. The interviewer asked if people actually don't write for women of that age, or if there is just an unwillingness to show women of that age.
She stated that she knew of a script for a creative story, that was written with an 'older woman' in mind. It called for an in her forties (I guess that is an older woman in Hollywood terms. During the casting process, they continually slid down the age--taking it from a woman in her forties, to a woman that looks forty but maybe she's in her thirties, to a twenty something that could play thirty, etc. :wtf:
Though audiences may want to see reaistic women in film, Hollywood is too afraid to NOT cast a bankable, twenty-ish star.
blah, blah, blah...you know the story.
edited to correct spelling and grammar.
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Wed Aug-10-05 06:44 PM
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2. I'm waiting for Casablanca ---Redux to the Extreme! starring |
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keanu reeves and britany spears....here's looking at you dude!, We'll always have malibu..and those gnarley waves....
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Wed Aug-10-05 06:45 PM
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Wed Aug-10-05 06:54 PM
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9. Actually, I think they already did |
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It was made-for-TV, if I remember correctly. They tried to spin it into a series. David Soul (Starskey and Hutch fame) played the lead. It sank like a rock weighed down with lead. I can't remember what network tried it. Should not mess with a classic!
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Wed Aug-10-05 07:02 PM
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12. There are so many lines that are in the |
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pop culture lexicon, not to mention it is arguably the best movie ever made.
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Wed Aug-10-05 07:51 PM
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27. According to IMDB, it was NBC. |
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Wed Aug-10-05 07:00 PM
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The Godfather starring Ashton Kutcher as Sonny Corleone, and Marlon Brando reprising his role as the godfather, oh wait he's now deceased. Oh that's ok, we'll just put him in digitally. Ashton can do his scenes on blue screen.
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Wed Aug-10-05 07:28 PM
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20. That's actually going to happen |
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in the upcoming "Superman Returns", Brando will be posthumously reprising his role as Jor-El. It will eb archived fottaged rather than CGI
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Wed Aug-10-05 07:34 PM
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22. (gasp) and I thought I was being sarcastic... |
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way to go Hollywood. When a sarcastic jab on a message board has some basis in truth, something is really wrong.
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Wed Aug-10-05 07:27 PM
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19. I'm waiting for Casablanca: The 2005 remake |
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Starring Johnny Depp, Ashton Kutcher, and Bernie Mac!
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Thu Aug-11-05 12:29 AM
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Wed Aug-10-05 09:43 PM
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33. I was just commissioned to write that script |
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please don't kill me. (j/k)
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Wed Aug-10-05 06:44 PM
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3. 75% of all Hollywood movies are re-makes, re-makes of foreign films |
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re-makes of tv shows. re-makes of Cartoons/Comics or Sequels. It's been that way for awhile.
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Wed Aug-10-05 06:53 PM
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7. You're right of course, it just hits hard when they start in on |
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the films one holds near and dear. :(
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Wed Aug-10-05 06:54 PM
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10. I swear to the Almighty |
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I'll go postal if anyone ever remakes Harvey or To Kill a Mockingbird. :mad:
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Wed Aug-10-05 07:04 PM
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13. Tell me about it...You would think that some things |
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are just sacred.
Dh and I were listening to (and watching) a show with a cover band this weekend. They did a Prince song. While it wasn't horrible, neither of us enjoyed it much. Sorry but for me, no one can do Prince. He's sacred. I don't want to hear any re-do's there.
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Wed Aug-10-05 07:36 PM
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Good heavens, don't give them any "ideas," if you can call remakes that.
"To Kill a Mockingbird," god have mercy, no. :scared:
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Thu Aug-11-05 10:39 AM
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39. Hugh Grant as Atticus Finch n/t |
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Thu Aug-11-05 10:50 AM
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40. Hate to break it to you |
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Edited on Thu Aug-11-05 10:50 AM by notmypresident
But Harvey was done a few years ago. Only TV thank goodness.
Starred Harry Anderson and wasn't that good but who could replace Jimmy Stewart?
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Wed Aug-10-05 06:53 PM
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But now Broadway is copying movies. And then, there are shows of Abba songs and Lennon songs, ad nauseam. They do anything that's safe and that's about it.
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Wed Aug-10-05 07:07 PM
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14. True--one of the biggest shows in Vegas right now? |
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We Will Rock You based on the music of Queen.
Go figure...:shrug:
Broadway this past season had yet another revival of Sweet Charity, too.
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Wed Aug-10-05 06:45 PM
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4. Ugh, I know! I'll start going to the theaters again when Hollywood |
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starts making good movies again! I'm not paying $10.50 to go see the Dukes Of Hazzard remake! Or the Miss Congeniality sequel! I didnt even enjoy the first one!
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Wed Aug-10-05 07:12 PM
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15. I don't mean to defend Hollywood or anything but when |
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The Dukes of Hazzard makes 30 + Million over the weekend. Someone the other day complained about the Deuce Bigelow Sequel, guess what it cost 18 Mil to make and grossed 65 mil.....NOT INCLUDING DVD SALES!
Hollywood is a business and making money is taking care of business. When movies like the above continually start bombing and Hollywood starts losing money will it change.
Until then expect Baretta Facts of Life. and Snagglepuss movies to fill theaters.
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Wed Aug-10-05 07:15 PM
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Wed Aug-10-05 07:25 PM
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18. Stop re-making bad movies as well |
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not to mention bad television shows.
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Wed Aug-10-05 07:32 PM
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21. Don't get me started on the reality television phenomena... |
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they are obviously out of ideas when these are the shows all over television. Sooooo sick of them.
I'm not going to lie and say I've never watched one. As I have, though the ones' I have watched surprise people, as they were not the most popular ones that EVERYONE seemed into. But despite my temporary lapse in judgement to watch such a show, the trend shows an elaborate failure of creativity in Hollywood.
They just seem a rather odd experiment in human's capacity for cruelty, imo.
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Wed Aug-10-05 07:38 PM
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25. I'd rather they make thoise than remake "Psycho, Casablanca, To Kill |
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a Mockingbird, Citizen Kane".
As long as they rework the really awful stuff, I can deal with it.
If they touch the gold standards, a pox on them.
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Wed Aug-10-05 08:36 PM
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28. So you'll take the crappier crap over the crap? |
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guess its just a difference of opinion`
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Thu Aug-11-05 12:33 AM
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36. blondeatlast, didn't you hear? Psycho was remade. |
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Edited on Thu Aug-11-05 12:34 AM by bliss_eternal
It was completely insane. The director remade it, identically as a frame by frame exact replica of the original, except it was in color. So friggin' stupid. There was no reason he even needed to go there.
I heard that when it opened, it played to empty theaters.
What a dumb idea!
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Wed Aug-10-05 07:37 PM
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24. don't tell me = staring: eddie murphy, ice cube... |
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& martin lawrence :shrug:
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Wed Aug-10-05 09:16 PM
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31. The rapper movies really piss me off |
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There are so many fine, talented black actors who are literally out there struggling to get decent roles. Yet these rapper movies are churned out like so much shit. It's maddening.
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Wed Aug-10-05 09:22 PM
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32. you got that right friend... |
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Thu Aug-11-05 12:37 AM
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37. Another one to NOT get me started on! |
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I was glad when Sam Jackson spoke out on that whole phenomena, of the rapper turned actor, taking roles from struggling actors that pay their dues.
The ONLY exception of course is Mos Def, who actually started as an actor, and turned to music when he wasn't getting a lot of acting work. I think he's incredibly talented--and he knows what it means to learn your craft and pay dues.
I will NEVER call Will Smith an actor! So there! LOL!
Hi, Chovexani! :hi:
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Wed Aug-10-05 07:46 PM
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26. I read this plausible theory on Google Groups, whaddya think? |
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The theory goes like this:
The movie (which remakes old TV show) is basically an elaborate infomercial for the old TV show's DVD release.
If this is true, it all makes perfect sense.
Another theory (which some of you alluded to here): it's all about safe marketing with a well-known time-tested brand name. So, if a movie seems to click with SOMEONE (like Deuce Bigelow which comes back, nauseatingly enough, with a Deuce-goes-to-Europe sequel), instant franchise.
This, btw, is what truly SUCKS about SNL. They're ALWAYS fishing for a popular skit that they milk over and over and over and over and then the MOVIE!!!
Another problem, IMHO, is that Hollywood is SO obsessed with weekend grosses. Gosh, they act like it's Broadway or something!
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Wed Aug-10-05 09:06 PM
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29. Ashton Kutcher as Citizen Kane! |
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Wed Aug-10-05 09:14 PM
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30. It's the bean counters that are the problem, I think |
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Movies cost so much to make now, that the studios are generally unwilling to take a lot of risks. They want to go for what they think is the "sure thing". So we get remakes, and crappy comic movies, and movies with rappers. They are so focused on profit that they don't care about the creativity--the movie version of Queen of the Damned is the example I always like to bring up in these discussions. Here was a film that was in development hell for years, almost as long as Interview With a Vampire. They waited so long, the rights were about to go back to Anne Rice so they slapped together some crap on the cheap. It tested so poorly that Warner Bros. decided to cut their losses and release it straight to video. But then Aaliyah died, and the suits decided to capitalize on the grieving Aaliyah fans and released it in the theaters.
Yeah, pretty disgusting.
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Wed Aug-10-05 09:45 PM
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34. they're remaking 'the fog' too - don't fuck with carpenter |
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Thu Aug-11-05 12:39 AM
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John Carpenter does it right, the first time. No need for a remake.
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