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melissinha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:43 AM
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Got myself in a Flame war with Neocons

For your reading pleasure.. and this is on the Austin American Statesman!
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http://www.austin360.com/connections/mboard/PoliticalRuminations/controlDb?PageId=TlToVt&topicID=75651&boardId=296

Spare us your "patriotism' By melissinha
Oh yeah wearing a made in china lapel pin is really patriotic. Don't get me wrong, th eyoung men and women in the service are patriotic, but are sent by a a greedy zealot whose successful missions to defraud the US Treasury, lay claim to Iraqi Oil and to create business for their contracting friends are the purpose of this war.

How DARE you question the sentiment of a woman who has seen this wat firsthand and who most likely has seen death of a loved one? There was NO connection between Saddam and Al Qaeda, even Dubya finally admitted it... furthermore, we have since learned that intelligence and proof that no WMDS were in Iraq EXISTED but were ignored.
Get off your high horse!
Go Cindy!


Good Grief! By Annie
So.... because YOU feel the way you do, nobody else is allowed to be patriotic?

Figures!!


you can be misguided, By melissinha (this is me)
I am saying that your made in china stickers and lapel pins are a pale cheap imitation of true patriotism. The first amendment guarantees you your right of expression and sure you can express your brand of patriotism, I am however pointing out that symbolic patriotism on the part of many americans is merely a blank check to the President without any hint of accountability.

Patriotism is standing up for what is BEST for your country. We all "support the troops", its just my opinion that supporting the troops means providing adequate protection and machinery and above all an objective that actually benefits our country. Which is sorely lacking in this case.



Demented Patriots? By DEMO-PUBLICAN
I feel sorry for that poor mother that is being used by the minority misfits such as yourself. She is clearly unballanced from grief. You have no such excuse; your just a plain old whacked out nutcase! And what a cliche; "lapel pins made in China"; DUHHH! Another assinine slogan spouted. Well guess what; your gonna lose the next election too....DEAL WITH IT.

Yer Nutz. By Rokketmania
Only fools, idiots, and genocidal maniac-lovers ignore all of the evidence that justifies taking down Saddam and his evil regime. You left-wing pukes only provide aid and comfort to the enemy. As for that crazy broad who is fronting for radical anti-war, Bush-hating morons - even her own family is begging her to stop bringing shame to her son's memory. If I had MY way, I'd round up all of you and send you off to 're-education camps' - you know, the kind that your pals in Vietnam and Cambodia established thanks to YOUR help. ~(A)~

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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:52 AM
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1. My faves...
"So.... because YOU feel the way you do, nobody else is allowed to be patriotic?"

Yawn. When's Rush going to come up with a new slogan for these freaks?

"You left-wing pukes only provide aid and comfort to the enemy"

Polly want an old, moldy cracker?

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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:53 AM
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2. you can't "out patriot" anyone but
Yer Nutz, dear Rokketmania, here's one for you:

Only fools, idiots and genocidal maniac-lovers ignore all the evidence that George Bush and this administration took us into an unjustified war using the phrase, "WMD. Period!!!" Remember that? Good. Period.

Crazy broad? That's so dated. Why not say "crazy skirt", or "crazy dame". That would be swell.

If we had our way, people who speak of sending americans (or any humans) to concentration camps for industrialized killing would face criminal prosecution as terrorists. You are condoning violent extremism. That makes you a terrorist.

And finally, Rokketmania, Casey's "family" for all intents and purposes are the ones who raised him, not his slack jawed cousins, or his 13th century grandparents. When you are ready to sacrifice your own children for "WMD Period" that did not exist, for post-fuckup lies about why we're there, then we'll listen to you, but not before then.

Oh, and we'll ask your kids first if they're all right with your choices about their fate.
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melissinha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:56 AM
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6. amen
I love it.. I am going to post it.. brilliant!
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motely36 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:54 AM
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3. She is clearly unballanced from grief
WTF! How many children has that person lost in the war.

Are these people really that stupid and uncaring? I know it's a rhetorical question.
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melissinha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 11:08 AM
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8. you know what we should do?
Go on sites like these with a prefab message that quotes Bush with legitimate links... not using any flaming words... just use the truth they only show their true colors if they respond to calm, collected reasoned approaches.

Guys thanks for your support, Sorry if I got you guys all riled up.... hope it was at least entertaining. I really was looking for a meaningful discussion ... guess I have to do that face to face... hiding behind a computer veil makes its so easy for them to be vile hate-mongering hypocrits.
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melissinha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:55 AM
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4. Here's my response
I am so trying not to spew hatred;


you are jsut plain rude By melissinha
Just goes to show the state of mind of you GOP lovers. Its no wonder your golden boy has no need to be diplomatic and has appointed John Bolton to the UN you people don't demand or expect a proper diplomatic discussion from him. It is demonstrated by your hateful misguided language.

You got ONE thing right... I hate Bush. I do not hate people so freely as you do.. I hate people who DESERVE it.. and Bush has shown that he has no time for diplomacy, will fix facts to start a war, signs bills that hurt middle income and low income families.... proof is in the pudding people. You guys have not respect for international relations... Learn to speak with out spewing out your hateful souls.

BTW, Cindy says she is not being USED she is the new Rosa Parks of the peace movement.... We will get the truth out and we will put all your lily-livered draft dodging leaders in federal prison where they belong!

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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:55 AM
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5. Am I the only one amazed that these people can even operate a computer?
Seriously.
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:59 AM
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7. I'm amazed that these people remember to breathe.
Seriously.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 11:11 AM
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9. Check and mate.
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