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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 04:36 PM
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Women: Caretaker of famous gorilla pressured us to bare our breasts
Two former caretakers for Koko, the famous gorilla who communicates with humans using sign language, say they were continually pressured to show Koko their breasts or face the consequences.

Nancy Alperin and Kendra Keller are suing Koko's primary caretaker, Dr. Francine "Penny" Patterson, because she allegedly asked them to "perform bizarre sexual acts with Koko" — namely, taking off their tops — to bond with the five-foot-tall, 280-pound female gorilla.

"Patterson would interpret certain hand movements made by Koko as a 'demand' to see exposed human nipples," the suit alleges. " made it known to Keller and Alperin that if did not indulge Koko's nipple fetish, their employment with the Gorilla Foundation would suffer."

Claiming severe emotional distress, humiliation, embarrassment, anger, disappointment and worry, the women filed suit in February, naming the Gorilla Foundation — the Woodside, Calif., nonprofit charged with Koko's care — and Patterson, its president and research director.

http://www.courttv.com/people/2005/0812/koko_ctv.html

One of the gorillas was reportedly named Ah-nold.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 04:39 PM
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1. Oh, brother!
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 04:56 PM
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2. Rick Santorum's worst nightmare

or maybe his fantasy ...

Cross-species lesbianism.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:04 PM
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3. ROFLMAO!
:rofl:
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 06:00 PM
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13. Heheh
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:14 PM
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4. Koko says give me your wallet
and touch me where I pee.

Sheesh.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:30 PM
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5. This is a joke, right?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:31 PM
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6. I have certain hand signals that mean I want to see human nipples
Edited on Mon Aug-15-05 05:50 PM by leftofthedial
but it never works.
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ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:47 PM
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9. does your hand signal look similar to using an etch-a-sketch?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:52 PM
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11. no. it's more like using a pair of those gel-filled stress balls
Edited on Mon Aug-15-05 05:52 PM by leftofthedial
THEN the etch-a-sketch thing
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ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 06:02 PM
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14. aaah... as long as we're clear... :) EOM
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:36 PM
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7. Koko must have some Bonobo in her. n/t
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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:42 PM
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8. The topic just below this one was "What's your ideal relationship?"
looked funny right after a thread about bearing your breasts for gorillas on some woman's orders.

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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:50 PM
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10. That would make quite an interesting porn flick...
Edited on Mon Aug-15-05 05:51 PM by EOO
Planet Of The Apes: The X Rated Version!
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:55 PM
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12. Has any useful research come from this project lately?
Not to be a killjoy here, but I recall studying this project in college in the 1970's. Other than some initial information about parallels between ape's cognitive and social skills and humans, there really hasn't been much useful information to come from this study in a long time. Kind of makes you wonder why its still being funded.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 06:14 PM
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15. is it not being funded still because gorillas live a long time?
what do you suggest they do, euthanize koko

she will need care the rest of her life as a result of this experiment, she is neither ape nor human

do you think she would be happy in a zoo after being accustomed to one-on-one care
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 06:18 PM
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16. Fucking whingers.
They had the chance to go work elsewhere.

I, for one, believe that, in the realm of scientific study, one should be ready to do whatever is needed. Especially when it involves animals.

Is it weird? Sure it is. But, if there was genuine scientific need for the breast exposure (and it seems that there was) these women need to buck up and accept it and stop their ludicrous lawsuit.
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Bamboo Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:12 PM
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17. Shamu tank is a porno booth.
Edited on Mon Aug-15-05 10:36 PM by Bamboo
Dolphin trainers rub the dolphin's genitals to build the relationship bond,you see them rewarded with fish during the show but not the other rewards.At whale exhibits the music is always that "Cosmos" stuff when it should be Leo Sayer.In Orlando,Sea World has a swim with the dolphins theme park called Discovery Cove,when these dolphins seem happy to see you it is sincere.
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:35 PM
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18. Whoa. That gives a whole new meaning to "waxing the dolphin".
Ewwwwwwwwwww....

:scared:
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