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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 09:29 PM
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How many guys here
have NO sexual experience with a woman?

And how old are y'all? I'm 28.

No experience.

Yup- gay.

And I feel like I'm missing out on something...

Anyone else wanna confess on this one? :)
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Rashind Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 09:31 PM
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1. Not me.
But I haven't had sexual experience with a man! ... Wait, yes I have. DAMN it! Guess I'm just a big, big whore, huh?
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 09:32 PM
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2. Naw.
Personally, I believe human sexuality is much, much more fluid than anyone ever gives it credit for.

My impression is that having sex is fun... regardless of the sexes involved.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 09:34 PM
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3. Thank God I am not the only one
I have notta :(. Yes I know I am 16 but Ive never dated before either :(. I am FYI straight its just I am a very shy person too, so I dont have any courage. *sighs* I need a girl, oh I need a girl so bad. I am really realizing that now more than ever.
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Rashind Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 09:37 PM
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4. Don't worry, little buddy.
I didn't go to either of my high school proms, and girls in high school only liked me in the sense that I would admit to liking the moving "Miss Congeniality". But, I came to college and everything turned around pretty damn quick.

Want some advice? Go to a residential college far enough away from home that your parents can't visit every weekend. Take condoms. :thumbsup:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 09:39 PM
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6. I actually went to home coming this year
:) good fun, the ladies were good to me and all its just I didnt have a date, and I would have done more. College changes stuff eh? I didnt know but the ladies dont completely ignore me. I wanna go to college far far away yep, my parents wont listen to me on that though. What kind of condoms :evilgrin:. Thanks though.
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Rashind Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 09:46 PM
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13. Oh yeah college changes stuff.
It's not like you have to sacrifice principles for it, or anything, either. Girls get to college and... well, they stop being high school girls. You know how they are. I'm sure guys change, as well. But in any event, I'm very sure that when you get to college you'll have an easy time finding a young lady who likes you as much as you like her. Give it a semester. Don't be afraid to be friends with girls, and don't get over-fixated on anyone. Someone will bite eventually, whether you're looking for love or just lovin'.

And I use trojans, ultra-ribbed or unlubricated. With the unlubricated, you'll want to use your own, I suggest KY liquid.

And just so you know, it's a really fun conversation with mom when you come home for summer, are unpacking your bathroom supplies, and a huge bottle of KY liquid comes out just as she comes into the room. *shrug*
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 09:49 PM
Response to Reply #13
17. I appreciate your tips
taht time will come :D.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 09:37 PM
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5. Oh my God, you're 16?!
I thought you were much much older. I guess I'm a dork. You're so intelligent. Do you go to public school? If so, my god, you got lucky!!
Duckie
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 09:40 PM
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9. How old did you think I was?
pick a number :). Yes I go to public school and nah I am not that intelligent, I am a medicore student. I hope I get lucky.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 09:51 PM
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20. I'm a mediocre student with a high IQ...
What kind of a student you are means nothing....I thought you were like, I don't know, in your 30s?
Duckie
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 09:53 PM
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21. 30's?
Whoa
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 07:29 AM
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62. Mediocre student doesn't mean your're not intelligent
Anyway,
I mostly read posts here in DU and don't write much. I read a lot of your posts and you don't sound 16. I'm surprised. I'm glad to see a young person so interested in politics. Maybe you will follow Kucinich's footsteps and run for president someday.

I guess I can't use this sign -> :toast: when I agree with you since you're way underage to drink.

-Mr.Wiggles

ps. Don't worry, you will get some at least by senior year. Don't waste any opportunities! I wish I could go back to high school. I was so naive back then and wasted a lot of good opportunities to "do it" with a lady! :-)
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 09:42 PM
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10. hehe
I am not trying to get laid actually, I want a relationship and admittingly a little bit of fun :D. Well can I choose what kind of hooker :)? and make sure she doesnt have anything.
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 09:46 PM
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14. Of Course you Can!! It's your hooker, you're choice!
We could even include a extra donation to send you to Vegas for a choice hooker and a fake ID to have a fun weekend!!!

Just wear a jimmy!!!!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 09:50 PM
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18. But I want a Czech so send me to Prague
:D something about Czech girls that I like, :). Ok thanks I would love that heh.
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 09:56 PM
Response to Reply #18
24. Hum...sounds pricey...
We just gave our last dimes to DU....

Well, there's a Czech bar near my apartment and a sleazy girl that always hangs out, maybe I can send her, FedEx, to you????
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 09:58 PM
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26. I dont know really man
I dont care. I am kinda teasing I dont want no hooker, sex isnt my motivation, I want a good relationship with a cute, smart, and funny girl.
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 10:05 PM
Response to Reply #26
29. Yeah, I know...
Good luck man, it's worth the effort to find someone you can really connect with. It makes it that much more fun...

Don't give in too easy. It's kinda like stoping at McDonalds when a great steak joint is just a few miles down the road..

Damn, I guess no one likes my hooker idea, there goes my dream of being a DU pimp. :evilfrown:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 10:06 PM
Response to Reply #29
32. ah its ok
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 02:32 AM
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50. A woman's advice
Since you are looking for a relationship, make yourself accessible and make conversation. It could be about a homework assignment or the ballgame. Talking homework is an easy way to get a phone number. There might be a young lady who has a crush on you and thought that you were involved or not interested in becoming involved with someone.
Have realistic expectations, you attract what you are is a good rule of thumb. If there are any self-improvements that you would like to make, but all means make them.
So, you are 16 right? Do you have a driver's license? That would help so that you can drive on dates. Believe me a guy with a car or at least a license is a big deal to a highschool girl.
Wanting to date a guy with a car is no more superficial then wanting to date the homecoming queen. Get a part-time or summer job that hires lots of teens. This would give you the opportunity of meeting other teens from other schools, without having to go through the trauma of CLICKS.

Well my job is done, lol. Good luck
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 02:39 AM
Response to Reply #50
52. Not involved with anyone now and I dont drive
Thanks though angee. I appreciate it.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 03:03 AM
Response to Reply #52
53. work on a license
and your life will change! I promise.
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 09:42 PM
Response to Reply #7
11. They have one at my Culinary College
Can you believe that!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 09:46 PM
Response to Reply #7
15. a hooker?
newsflash - not all guys are pigs.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 09:50 PM
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19. I dont want a hooker really
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ant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 09:58 PM
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27. good, good
admitting you do won't get you anywhere with the, uh, hos. ;)

And here's another tip: Learn as much as you can about how to make a woman orgasm. Master this skill and you will be a god.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 10:00 PM
Response to Reply #27
28. yeah
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:22 AM
Response to Reply #15
44. It's the Hospitality Industry
Edited on Mon Nov-10-03 12:24 AM by corarose
Yes, we have a hooker at Culinary College and I am not kidding you. either.
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ant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 09:54 PM
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22. We're not gardening tools, fer chrissakes...
First off, that's very offensive.

Second, it's hos. ;)

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 09:45 PM
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12. hey John
I bet you are one of those guys who completely miss the signals the gals are giving you. Try not to be so self-conscious and really try to be aware of the gals - especially eye contact. If they catch your eyes and stay there, get over there and start a conversation. And if a girl asks you some questionk, don't just answer and walk away. Keep talking!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 09:47 PM
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16. Yeah I dont pay attention
eye contact *groans* thats my biggest problem and goes hand with my Aspergers. I should youre right, but Ive been shy for so long.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 09:55 PM
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23. Slittles gives good advice, John.
Also, forget the hookers. Really, John! Buck-up, buddy! Focus on your education and wack-off if you must. However, don't allow yourself to become sexually addicted. It could make you blind (culturally and socially). Your girl(s) will happen. Usually at the most unexpected times. Remember, they are young too, and some are wrestling with the same demons that you are. And some want what you want just as badly as you want it. Believe me.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 09:57 PM
Response to Reply #23
25. I know, I am not thinking about sex really
I just want like a good relationship is all. Thanks skittles. Yes they face the same fears.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 10:05 PM
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30. Good. Healthy attitude.
But do think about sex. It's there and the girls you date or want to date are thinking about it too. I spent several dates with a fellow high school oboist talking on-and-on about the oboe. Finally, in the local airport parking lot one night she literally ripped my clothes off. I had bored her to tears for several dates. She and I didn't do the deed that night ... in fact not until I returned from Vietnam a few years later ... but we did release some spent-up sexual energy.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 10:07 PM
Response to Reply #30
33. I am thinking about sex I wont deny that
Yes youre right.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:07 AM
Response to Reply #23
42. Slittles, Demo?
that sounds . . . . kinky. :7
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 10:05 PM
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31. Don't worry
My husband only dated "the ice princess" as he called her while a senior in high school who didn't even want deep kisses. Anyway, he had his first real kiss, first blow job, and first intercourse experince all within a couple of hours at the beginning of his sophomore year of college. A few years later, we got married. He improved quickly and doesn't do things just because (ex girl friend) liked that like other guys I had been with. He says that he has no regrets about being with only me and seems to be still very attracted to me.
Who knows, that could happen to you too.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 10:10 PM
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34. well, I'm 28
and I don't recall ever being hit on by a woman. And I've been told I'm pretty good looking, too.

I guess I was just too damn shy when I was a kid to try anything in that direction. I have a monstrous fear of rejection and abandonment, some of which stems from my early childhood.

My parents never, ever spoke to me about sex. None of my friends ever talked about it, at least not around me. My first sexual experience was with a guy.

If any woman has ever been attracted to me... I lack the experience to know what's going on.

I barely know what it's like to be desired by someone else.

Oh, and I hate my mom. Without passion. I wish she were dead.

Maybe that has something to do with it.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 10:12 PM
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35. I am not sure how I look
Well me, my parents, and friends are open about it. I am not afraid of being rejected or abandoned. I am not sure. Thanks everyone though.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 10:25 PM
Response to Reply #35
36. Get to know girls as friends, John
We really aren't that different. Everyone is self-conscious and self-absorbed in high school. Anyway, that should help with your shyness around girls. Get to know them as people and friends. Once you're more comfortable with yourself, who knows what you'll be capable of...:-)
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 10:44 PM
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40. My advice....
Enjoy your age.....don't get hung up on sex (easy for this old fart to say). LOL, I can't tell you how much mental time I put into the whole sex thing when I was your age....a lot more thinking than doing!

Geesh, I just realized that you're 16....my daughter's age. I'm happy that she's uninterested in boys (so she tells me)....but I don't think she's really ready yet and I certainly am not encouraging her to "explore" her sexuality with the opposite sex. There's too much baggage with the social side of life when kids have sex too early. Physically, no problem, but emotionally and socially, it can be a nightmare for some that are still maturing in mind/spirit.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 10:45 PM
Response to Reply #40
41. heh yeah
You just realized I was that young? ah it happens. Good luck to your daughter.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 08:55 AM
Response to Reply #3
63. Don't EVEN worry about it!
That situation will turn around in a big way. Just give it some time.

In high school, more often than not I wound up in "friend hell" (acknowledgements to Chris Rock) when the intent was for far more.

Have faith...it will get better!

av8rdave
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 09:40 PM
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8. A girl lunged for my good bits at age 15, but I've never consented to
doing anything with a female.

I'm 31.

I'm not sure what I would be missing. I mean, there's a hole that men don't have down there. They've got a couple of soft round things that strait men like to play with. When clothed, I do find them attractive sexually. I just don't know. But I'll stick to men all the same.
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Rashind Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 10:38 PM
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37. Just gotta say...
This is the best threadjack ever. JohnKleeb is kid brother to all of DU, love ya kiddo. :hug:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 10:42 PM
Response to Reply #37
39. best thread jack ever I agree
kid brother :) I appreciate that comment. Lemme sip at my :beer: everything is better underaged.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:12 AM
Response to Reply #39
43. Will you be my kid brother, John?
My own brother is a serious Freeper and doesn't like me at all. I could use a brother! Do you have any sisters? That's who could give you advice about girls. If not, your "sister," Rhiannon, would be happy to oblige!:-)
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:27 AM
Response to Reply #43
46. No I have no sisters
You got the job :D.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:51 AM
Response to Reply #46
47. Thanks, John! I am honored!
I have always wanted a brother, since mine is mean and a Freeper! I have a couple of male cousins who I like a lot, but they're too far away. You are officially my younger brother. I will be here for you whenever you want.:-)
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:54 AM
Response to Reply #47
48. Did you get my PM sis?
:hug: I have a sister.
Mam pewien siostra
Thats polish, I know you are Polish as well
jej siostra!
:beer:
You are officially my big sister :D. woohoo.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 01:10 AM
Response to Reply #48
49. No, I did not yet see it
But I am looking forward to it, as well as having a brother. My biological one is of no use to me and you know that we have the same ethnic background! Na Zdrowie!!! :hi:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 02:38 AM
Response to Reply #49
51. Open it sis please
Edited on Mon Nov-10-03 02:43 AM by JohnKleeb
I am gonna head for bed soon sis ok. If you want to but I may head for bed before then IM me. I wanna talk to my sister :). We have simliar backgrounds not the same but simliar, but Slav Irish rules. :hi: One of us should post about this :D.
A hug for my big sister :hug:
hehe. I am gonna go bump your threads in Israel/Palestine sis.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 07:15 AM
Response to Reply #51
61. Sorry I did not get back to you, as I fell asleep
I have not been on I/P lately, either, but should bring my attention back there. I believe this is the most important conflict in the world and one that must be solved, though Bush*, unlike Clinton or Carter, is reluctant to get involved. I did post on the Irish thread. I am Polish, not Slav, but they are very close. Perhaps we were twins, separated at birth! LOL! Just kidding, as I am older than you!:-)
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 03:25 AM
Response to Reply #39
54. I mean, like, wow.
Edited on Mon Nov-10-03 03:25 AM by kgfnally
A guy twelve years younger than me hijacked my thread. Go figure!

hehehehe

ROFLMAO
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 02:45 PM
Response to Reply #54
56. I just lamented about my girl problems and that was that
and nally I read about what happened with you and I think it was your stepmom, tough shit man, I can see why you hate the woman. I thought you said you was 29 that would make me 13 years younger. :hi: what do you think about me getting a sister ;)?
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 04:04 AM
Response to Reply #56
64. That's why you need a sister, John, to advise you about girls!
Girls have the same hangups that you have, take my word for it.:-)
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 02:41 PM
Response to Reply #64
67. yep
and sis I gots news.
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Mysterio Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 10:41 PM
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38. Um...
yes, I've had sex, but only with a few women. They were all in a long-term relationship with me.
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sventvkg Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:26 AM
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45. If you are Gay, you are not attracted to women, thus, NOT missing
out on anything...Enjoy you lfe and find love brother! That's what it's about..If it's with me, more power to ya..The world meeds more love in any configuration...
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 03:27 AM
Response to Reply #45
55. It's not a gay/str8 thing
it's more of a curiousity over my lack of experience.

I'm gay, but having never had sex with a woman, the thought can't possibly turn me off, right? How do *I* know what it's like? :)
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 02:47 PM
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57. No experience with a woman whatsoever.
And I'm 47 years old. Gay man here.

I'm a "6" on the Kinsey scale, I guess.
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emily_j Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 02:49 PM
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58. you're not...
missing out on anything. and that comes from me...a woman. don't worry about it. you're just being silly.
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1a2b3c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 03:03 PM
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59. I am 24 almost 25 and no sexual experience with a woman
Not since i woke up this morning. Maybe after i get out of the gym she will be willing to give it up :evilgrin:
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 03:12 PM
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60. It's good. I'd honestly rate it equal to a good rollercoaster ride.
Edited on Mon Nov-10-03 03:12 PM by Cat Atomic
You know- very fun while you're doing it, but it won't change your life or anything.
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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 06:24 AM
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65. 22 and haven't even had a girlfriend
Believe me, you are not alone!
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 08:24 AM
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66. Hi there!
Long time no see! :hi: Still on your trip of the USA, or are you back home now?
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 02:46 PM
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68. locked in keeping with the "no sex threads" rules
I realize this was a holdover from pre-new-rule.

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