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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:33 AM
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I killed Bambi Saturday...What's your opinion?
Yessiree, Bob! just me and my trusty 30-06 in the woods. Got aver 120 lbs. of the critter in my freezer just waiting for the skillet.

Shot two siblings Sunday. Was worn out by then, so I left them with a commercial processor. I'll pick them up this weekend all nicely wrapped in freezer paper - except for the 50 lbs. of summer sausage I'm having done.

I'm allowed a total of four this season, so I'll probably bag another before it ends.

All told, I get around 500 lbs. of meat per year. I eat much of it and share the rest with friends and family who either don't get to hunt or are prevented from hunting by circumstances such as work schedules or health reasons.

No. I don't mount trophies. I do make change purses from scrotums. My wife tans the hides and uses them for various crafts and such. She scrimshaves the antlers to make jewelry.

Flame away!

Purpose of this post? Not all DUer's think alike, but I believe that for most of us, the ultimate goals are harmonious.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:35 AM
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1. can I come to dinner?
I love venison stew. I'll even cook!
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:37 AM
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3. Place at the table for me?
Opening Day in Michigan is just five days away!
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:39 AM
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10. You cook, I'll clean
and we all eat like little piggies!
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:43 AM
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that's the best deal I've made in a while!
I hate doing clean-up.
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commander bunnypants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:37 AM
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Can I have some
I love Bambi. mmm mmm good


DDQM
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Shrek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:37 AM
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2. Congratulations, sounds like a good outing.
I did okay myself -- one pheasant and a bunch of quail, and loads of quality time with my son and my dad (and his trusty bird dog).

I've never been deer hunting but I'd like to try it some time.
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:56 AM
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20. Birds hunting is a ton of fun
Amusing story related to quail. Sorry it's a little lengthy.

My wife and I visited her cousins in Mississippi on our way to New Orleans last year. Her cousins raise chicken commercially. We vivited a house with 26,000 (yes twenty-six THOUSAND) 2 day old chicks. When they ran, you could feel the ground vibrate. Here they are, all these tiny things covered in yellow down.

We get to THE Quarter that evening and go to dinner after checking into our hotel. The waiter noticed our accents. We discovered that we all hailed from the same county in Kentucky. My wife ordered a salad. Our waiter put his hands on his hips, then shook his finger at my wife and said, "Honey, you DID NOT drive 800 miles to New Orleans just to eat a salad!" My wife reconsidered and ordered a "real meal".

She gave no thought to her order until it arrived. When she saw four whole quail on her plate, her mind went back to the chicks se saw that morning.

She ate my steak.
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rogerashton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:37 AM
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4. Sounds delicious.
I trust you take great care to stay legal and not risk the lives of naked apes as you pursue Bambi -- not everybody does.

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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:01 PM
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24. I was sorely tempted to do in a naked ape
The sorry S.O.B. decided it might be fun to shoot a couple of angora goats that belong to a neighbor.

Nice things, cell phones. I called the game warden hotline. Asshole lost his truck, gun, AND got arrested!
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SiobhanClancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:38 AM
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5. I grew up in Maine..
where hunting is a fact of life. I will never like it,but as long as people are using the meat I'm OK with it. I've seen a few deer carcasses out in the woods rotting with their racks ripped off..and THAT makes me sick.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:40 PM
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49. I totally agree...
And if you don't want the meat, find a poor family in the area and give it to them. HAve it butchered and write it off as a donation. Or even give it to the local shelter. I just don't understand people.
Duckie
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mmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:38 AM
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6. Scrimshaw!
Now there is a word we don't see every day.

I have hand fed fresh grass to many a deer; I could never shoot one.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:38 AM
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7. I understand hunting when one uses the food gained...
Edited on Mon Nov-10-03 11:40 AM by hlthe2b
But, I don't understand callousness and disrespect for the life that was lost for your benefit. Native Americans used to pray over the carcass since they believed that life begets life....

I'd like to think we could all be at least as respectful.

So sorry, but starting out a post, "I killed Bambi," is obviously flamebait and IMO disrespectful whether you meant it to be or not.
And, no, I'm no vegetarian, and I've eaten my share of venison, elk, bison, pheasant, and other game.
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:47 AM
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18. Respect? Disrespect?
It is nothing more than a "hook". Newsies will tell you every time that the headine can be the most important part of a story. If the headline doesn't grab you, you don't read the aritcle.

It's a flash to get folks to read the thread and post their oponions.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:17 PM
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35. I'm glad that's not how you meant it..........
To take a life-- any life is not to be taken lightly IMO. You sound like a responsible hunter, however.
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:28 PM
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42. I believe that I am
Here's how it works. If I'm not going to eat it, I don't hunt it unless it's animal thats killing livestock or destroying crops and other reasonable methods to stop the loss have failed.

Virtualy all of the animal is used in some way. The offal, except for edible organs is left for scavengers. You know what I do with the rest of the parts.

By the way, hunters will know about this. Try sitting on the ground in the woods VERY quietly and VERY still. It's a hoot when a ground squirrel (cheeky little turd that he is) decides that you boot or leg is the perfect perch from which to whistle and chirp at his neighbors with the purpose of starting a fight with those neiighboring ground squirrels.
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NicoleM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:38 AM
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8. I think
Edited on Mon Nov-10-03 11:39 AM by NicoleM
that as long as you're going to eat him, it's cool. I'd rather have you shoot him than have me (or anybody else) hit him with my car on the highway.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:39 AM
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9. that sucks
Edited on Mon Nov-10-03 11:39 AM by Kamika
Bambi who was so cute :(


So .. how did she taste?
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:44 AM
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16. Just had a little sausage for breakfast.
Yummy!
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:49 AM
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19. I never got the taste for deer
They have a very distinct taste that I think is pretty awful .. sorry to say.
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:05 PM
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28. uh, kamika, dear
Bambi was a he
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:08 PM
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30. OMG
I been lied too my whole life!


I never actually saw the movie :p
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:16 PM
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33. Yup. Nice change purse from Bambi
I figure it'll be good for about 5 bucks (pun intended) in quarters.
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:17 PM
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34. its ok
i'll forgive you cause your just so damn cute :loveya:
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:30 PM
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44. ahh the story of my life
Is there anything I cant get away with?
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:36 PM
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47. ummmmmm
probably not, perhaps i should rent it for ya
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Sagan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:41 AM
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11. got any to spare?

:)

I think I'm going first weekend of December.. really looking forward to it. I hate pulling the trigger on the little bastards, but it's not like I don't eat 'em.

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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:42 AM
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12. 2 less deer that will run out in front of my car!
I could never shoot Bambi myself with a gun, but I'll cook and eat him if someone gets the meat processed first.
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:31 PM
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45. Three fewer!
Bambi Saturday, two more on Sunday.

Glad to help with your insurance rates.
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marigold20 Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:24 PM
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91. Yeah - can you get more tags and rid the forest of more of these varmints?
When they jump in front of your car, there's nothing cute about them. I call them the "rats" of the forest.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:42 AM
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13. Hunting - the sport of cowards
:puke:
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:04 PM
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26. I like your backbone
But I do disagree with the coward part. 'nuff said. Not here to start a war. Been enough of that this year.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 05:29 PM
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75. i agree you with Skittles...sort of
Not all hunters are cowards. But I think sport hunting is a cowardly sport.

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luckyluke Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 05:52 PM
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79. Brave people buy meat in supermarkets...
...nicely wrapped in cellophane, with happy cow pictures on the package.

Meat factory animals die happily, after all. Bred in cramped cages, separated from their mothers at a young age, fed an unnatural diet, and shot up full of hormones... since we don't see it it obviously doesn't happen.

Now if we just get rid of all those mean hunters, the world will be such a better place. We'll take the kids to McDonald's to celebrate.

-ll
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:43 AM
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14. Bambi.....YUMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!
Venison is some FINE provender!
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scarlet_owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:44 AM
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15. Scrotum change purses?
Is there a market for such things? Huh. I learn something new every day.

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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:06 PM
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29. I got the idea from an old navajo guy I knew when I lived in Arizona.
He made them form just about any animal scrotum big enough to work.

You'll note I skipped any "medicine bag" jokes.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:45 AM
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17. My opinion?
I hope the karma gods let you come back in your next life as a 13 point buck as a lesson in compassion.

:)
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:57 AM
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23. It's the circle of life
If it happens, I do hope that whomever bags me has the decency to keep all that orange glaze crap off my roasts!
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:20 PM
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37. That would be a supreme blessing
a 13 point buck is quite a rarity around here. Between car accidents and hunting they don't live that long. Its a lucky Buck who gets to his 3rd or 4th rack.
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luckyluke Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 05:58 PM
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81. Brave people buy meat in supermarkets...
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Mysterio Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:56 AM
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21. hunting.....
we don't need that anymore, to eat or otherwise. I'm against all forms of it. There's nothing better than going outside in the early morning and seeing Bambi eating away and watching you - until s/he gets shot in the back.

Some people get all thrilled about killing something. I don't understand why. But hey, if you like it, more power to you.

BTW, how did Bambi taste? I've had my fair share of venison. I especially love venison jerkey! I never have shot a deer though.

That's just my opinion.
Mysterio
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NicoleM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:23 PM
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39. Not to start a flame war but
unless you're a vegan, it's a bit hypocritical to dislike hunting on "we don't need that anymore" grounds.
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politicat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 02:24 PM
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63. You're obviously not in Colorado....
We've got herds starving; Chronic Wasting Disease is endemic in under hunted herds and more of the poor critters get hit by vehicles and suffer with internal injuries and broken bones until they die than end up in someone's freezer (or on their wall, for that matter.)

As far as I'm concerned, a bullet or an arrow is a FAR more merciful death than starving, being at the mercy of rogue prions, or limping around until internal bleeding kills it off. CW is strongly correllated to over-population....

WE HUMANS are virtually the only predators our mule deer have left because the wolves are gone, the mountain lions are almost gone and the bears were never much into hunting that type of prey anyway. Restoring the ecological balance is our responsibility. Once upon a time, our local Native Americans kept the herds healthy and their numbers manageable, but European-Indigenous relations were... not great, to put it mildly.

Out here, and in New England, if I recall correctly, hunting is a necessity if the herds are going to survive at all and if the land is not going to be completely denuded of vegetation.

Congratulations, sir!

Politicat.
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Mysterio Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 05:59 PM
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83. i hear all kinds of crap...
about deer being overpopulated and stuff. Here in MN, none of the deer are suffering from those problems. They have enough food, not overpopulated, and hunting has declined. I don't know about you, but I find it really sad that people enjoy sitting in a deer stand and shooting a helpless deer. Just go buy meat at the store for pete's sake.
Mysterio
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politicat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 11:05 PM
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98. I Repeat, You are obviously not In Colorado.
Not to get flamey here, but we are in EXTREMELY different environments. MN gets enough rainfall to support a more abundant vegetative ecology than Colorado does. We're a high altitude desert, fer gosh sakes.

Ecology is everything, and water is the root. Come on down... I'll take you out to the Colorado Department of Wildlife holding pens where they hold the Chronic Wasting victims when they separate them from the herd. Come in March, and we'll go count the ribs on an elk up high. You're not here, and you're not out in the field.

I found, by the way, your reply to be very disrespectful and rude.

Politicat
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luckyluke Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 05:58 PM
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82. Brave people buy meat in supermarkets...
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:30 PM
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92. Nothing pisses me off more than meat eaters who are anti-hunting
because it's "cruel", and they buy their meat in a store.

Pure idiocy and hypocricy.

I agree with you - "Brave people buy meat in supermarkets" - but I'd say "People who think they know what they're talking about, but obviously don't, buy meat in supermarkets".
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:57 AM
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22. MMMMMMMmmmmm venison...
n/t
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Frangible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:01 PM
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25. More power to you
Not much of a hunter myself, but as long as you use the meat and don't overharvest, kill it and grill it.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:04 PM
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27. It's a more honest way of getting meat than buying it at the store
People who eat meat but criticize hunters strike me as somewhat in denial. A hunter is at least more conscious of the full origin of their food. Someone who has looked into an animal's eyes and killed it for food at least has to think about it, and decide if the cost is worth it. Plus, if you are eating a deer, you are saving a cow. So I wouldn't criticize you. Many in my family are hunters.

On the other hand, peole who hunt for sport, or those who call what they do "harvesting" or some other lame euphamism, disgust me. It's killing. So is eating meat, so is wearing leather. Call it killing. If you can't, you probably think it's wrong and are pretending you are doing something else. (Not you, I mean a generalized, nonspecific 'you.' Nothing in your post implied otherwise.)

I don't hunt, I don't eat meat, BTW.
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:13 PM
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31. Since I cannot abide hit-and-runs,
the folks who post a topic then leave it without defense or further comment, AND I did not expect so many replies, here's a lame attempt to answer so may questions and comments.

If you can get here, c'mon down for supper. That's not hollow. IM me and if you're close enough we'll work it out. We love company. Same on the sharing.

For those of you who find hunting, meat eating, etc. distasteful or downright repugnant, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree and remain friends.

Thanks to all who have (and to those who will) post comments either way. This thread is just another way for me to get a better understanding of our DU family.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:14 PM
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32. happy hunting. and where were you?
a pakistani friend of mine taught me to soak deer meat in milk prior to or while cooking it to remove the gamey taste, ever try it?

i stopped hunting years ago when me and friend were tracking a buck thru a ravine and we were shot at from a ridge above and opposite of where we were. we started screaming at the guy and threw our orange hats in the air and the son of a bitch still let off a round in our direction.

that was it for me.
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:19 PM
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36. I was on my friends farm here in Kentucky
I do/have done the milk soak, brine soak, and par boiled with a little vinegar or lemon. None are necessary with a relatively young deer nor with most older ones if you get them field dressed (sounds better than gutted, huh?) and hung to bleed out soon after the kill.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:20 PM
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38. venison's really delicious
The first time I had it, I was 16 and at a hotel restaurant, I was surprised at how lean and yummy the meat was...
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:37 PM
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48. ...and I hear it's good for frozen nipples!
Read your thread. Hadda do it.
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:27 PM
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40. Not funny lol
I cried during that movie!

But thanks for keeping the deer population down, we appreciate them not running into our cars in Upstate New York.
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:28 PM
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41. Provender from the commons!
Well-managed PUBLIC LANDS can provide sustenance or augment the larder of ALL citizens! Culling the herds and flocks makes them stronger. Good for you! Only strong government will keep the market hunters and professional gleanors at bay. Support yourlocal Fish & Game Agency! BTW - Not a Bambi eater, but did jig 5lbs of Calamari off the local pier yesterday!
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moroni Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:29 PM
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43. I had to put a deer down earlier this year...
A young lady and her sister hit a doe one evening. When they got to the house, I inspected her car (hair and dents). The girls were ok, just concerned about the deer. Took the oldest (19 yrs) one back to look for it. After about 15 minutes, we found the deer dragging itself away from the road toward it's "herding" area. It was obviously hurt and hurt badly. I called the sheriff and then the fish and game folks. They asked if I had the capability to put the doe down and I said yes. They told me to call them when I was done. I sent the young lady back to the truck though she wanted to help (she didn't see me put the old revolver under the seat). I said no that it would hurt her ears, so she went back. I got to within about 10 yards of her and put her down with a single hollow point (head shot). Instant relief for her. (Revolver was a 22 year old Ruger Redhawk .44) Afterwards, my brother-in-law and I determined she had a compound fracture of a rear leg and a simple fracture of a front leg, 3 broken ribs and lung trauma. The really sad part was that she was pregnant. No, I never told the young lady.... My brother-in-law and I dressed the deer and he put the meat in the freezer. No waste. I have hunted other critters in the past, but this was my first deer and it was not a pleasant experience, not a "hunt". Those big brown eyes were just that, big and brown. I know she was in a great deal of pain so it was for the best. I equate it to having to shoot my dog (ie best friend).

On a lighter note, after it was all done, I discovered I did not have my wallet with me, so here I was, an "old guy" with a young girl in the truck, at night, no driver's license, money, anything, and I am discharging a firearm near homes, pouching a pregnant doe from the road.... Oh yea. They'd have melted the key in the door!
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:35 PM
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46. If you don't hunt Deer, they will become extinct.
The herds will be overpopulated and they'll slowly die off due to lack of food...And also, their meat is GREAT from your cholesterol. If you're having trouble getting it down, don't automatically reach for drugs. Reach for some all natural deer meat.
Duckie
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:41 PM
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50. Not to mention CWD
Hopefully, more CWD infected deer will be killed by hunters, thus slowing the spread of the disease.

Chronic wasting disease is as great a threat to the deer and elk populaiton as ADIS is to humans.
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Frangible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:45 PM
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51. That's right... we've got to kill them, so they don't die...
Sorry, just channeling southpark...
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:51 PM
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52. LOL
QED
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 01:11 PM
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55. You're Not Far Off
Several years ago, the "Managers" at Bernheim Forest near Louisville didn't allow hunting on their property so the deer population exploded. The deer were eating the bark off the trees to try to survive. Almost killed off the natural ecosystem in the forest.
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Frangible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 01:18 PM
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56. Here's the southpark quote, enjoy
(I understand the reasoning behind it, but I thought this Southpark was damn funny)

TV Announcer:

And now back to hunting and killing with South Park's favorite hunters, Jimbo and Ned.

Jimbo:

I'm Jimbo Kerny and this is here is Ned. Say hi Ned.

Ned:

Nnnhi Ned.

Jimbo laughs

Jimbo:

Now isn't that great? We have a terrific show for you today. We're gonna kill some elk and we're gonna kill mountain goats. Now the new law passed by Colorado legislature which Ned and I call pussy law #4 states that we can no longer kill animals in defense. In otherwords our old line of "It's coming right for us"

Ned:

It's coming right for us.

Screen says in white letters "Pussy Law #4: No animal shall be harmed, even in self defense, unlesss specific license and season is in order. Self defense can only be justified by extreme, provable peril and or documented visible bodily harm."

Jimbo:

No longer works. So now we only kill animals to quote "Thin out their numbers". If we don't hunt, these animals will grow to big in their number and they won't have enough food. So you see, we have to kill animals, or else they'll die.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 01:03 PM
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53. My grandfather used to hunt every year.
Edited on Mon Nov-10-03 01:05 PM by pbl
He's now too old and feeble to do anything. I remember, fondly, eating venison everything, from steaks to stew. Hearing about your experience makes me miss the good old days when my gramps was out and about. Thanks for sharing and enjoy your delicious eats.
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TXlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 01:08 PM
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54. YOU ASSHOLE! *sniff sniff bawl*
Just kidding.

I love venison.

Send some my way, and I'll fire up the smoker.
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 01:22 PM
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57. Shooting a wild animal is more humane than factory farm->slaughterhouse
In my opinion anyway. I'd love to try deer hunting sometime, but I need someone to take me. I'd probably throw up at the gutting part though. Where do you live that you can take four deer? In Minnesota you can only take one.
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 01:42 PM
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59. Kentucky
It used to be one deer per year PERIOD. Now, in some areas you can take up to 16. Overpopulation is rampant.
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 01:55 PM
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60. I'll Say
I've nailed 5 from my Aunt's front porch trying to keep them out of her 5 acre garden. It's also in a spot where no hunting license is required (private property surrounded by the Daniel Boone National Forest.) Those wood gophers breed like rabbits.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 01:35 PM
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58. Homebrew and venison steaks....yummmmmmmmm.....
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1a2b3c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 02:00 PM
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61. 120 pounds?
Damn that is bambi. What did you shoot a blacktail?
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 02:04 PM
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62. 120 processed
I lost about a third of the weight in offal. That's average size for whitetails around here.
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populistmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 02:32 PM
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64. Hunting is much more humane than agriculture.
If you've ever seen commercial agriculture as far as the animals are concerned, it can be hard to stomach. I disagree on priciple with game hunting, but eating what you kill- go for it. I hope anyone antihunting is a strict vegan and own nothing that's leather or suede. I think only in that case is the opinion valid.
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enkidu2 Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:51 PM
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95. oh and
the only valid DU member is one who agrees with all the positions of the majority here, what a sack of horsedung, better to be a hypocrit closer to truth than a person completely in the wrong. funny how on this issue i feel like i am floating in a sea of rush limbaughs.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 02:36 PM
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65. I have one in my backyard
you are welcome to. He's destroyed my garden and I don't know how he's getting in. I live in a city so hunting is probably illegal, but I won't tell if you don't.

He's got large antlers so your wife would be happy, too.

MzPip
:dem:
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 02:40 PM
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67. The joke that gets me flamed!
The things my favorite deer and women - REALLY BIG RACKS!
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 02:39 PM
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66. Take a clean shot if you are going to do that
I was out cycling and saw a deer with an arrow hanging out of its hide. Who knows how long it was in there. The hunting community needs to educate their peers on how to conduct their business in the woods responsibly.
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 02:44 PM
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68. Precisely why I don't bow hunt
I prefer to get the job done quickly.

I have no qualms with bow hunters. Sadly, despite all the practice, poor shots do happen. I can just cycle a bolt or lever much faster than I can nock another arrow.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 02:50 PM
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69. That is insightful
The gun shop in the plaza near me has all this anti-Clinton stuff in their windows still. What's with that?
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 02:50 PM
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70. I got no issues.
People that stuff animals they shoot make me ill. I thought we'd outgrown trophies.

I don't do it, but if I had to hunt to eat, I'd do it with a clean conscience. AND my bolt action Mauser w/3-9-40 scope.
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boilerbabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 03:16 PM
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71. You can kill 4 deer in a season?
I guess I must be totally disoriented from my hick roots, where all they do is shoot animals. YUCK. Hooray for you and your lovely wife that scrapes the carcasses. Get a life. Eat some Macaroni or something At least you arent' crowing about your manly prowess like most of my very dear friends are....so I'll give you some credit
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 05:25 PM
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74. Nothing particularly manly about it
We just like venison. The farm raised varitey doesn't taste the same and with CWD comingprimarily from farm raised venison, the wild variety here is actually safer. We have no reported cases of CWD in Kentucky except for traces found in farm raised venison from other states.

Concerming the hides, it's a hobby that allows her to use more of the animal, avoiding waste.

I'll compromise on the macaroni. We sometimes make chili mac with ground venison.
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 03:24 PM
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72. So long as you kill them humanely,
and use what you kill, I've no objections. I won't do it myself anymore - I felt too bad about the last animal I shot, so I quit hunting myself. But I used to love venison. And there's nothing more hypocritical than anyone who eats any factory-farmed meat - beef, chicken, pork, what-have-you - criticizing a person who kills their own. A bullet is much more humane than the way some slaughterhouses kill, and at least the deer didn't live a life of misery until it was killed.

I only object to people hunting when it's "canned" hunts just for ego gratification, like the assholes who shoot a big cat who's been released from a cage two seconds before they put a bullet in it, or people who hunt threatened and endangered species. Deer are plentiful.

I still think the best hunting would be of two-legged vermin, though, and boy, do I ever have a list of vermin that oughta be eradicated...
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 05:31 PM
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76. Canned hunts
I was once drawn for buffalo in Arizona (I lived there at the time). Game and Fish officers drove me out to the herd, pointed out a bison selected for elimination, and told me to shoot that one for my hunt. That, my friend, is not hunting. Had I known, I'd have never entered the draw.

Let's just say that I didn't have to clean my rifle that night.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 03:42 PM
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73. I love venison
I can cook the best deer steak you ever had. Unfortunately, I don't hunt (couldn't hit the broad side of a barn). The only thing better is pan-fried dove with gravy and hot biscuits.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 05:35 PM
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77. It's Nature's way
If you're hunting to really use the animal. Nature intended for deer to have predators. For want of predators, there is now an overpopulation of them.

P.S. Change purses from scrotum?????
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 06:02 PM
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84. Think about it
also look up to previous posts. I could mount the scrotum with synthetic testicles for use as ceiling fan pulls and call them HighBalls.
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enkidu2 Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:44 PM
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94. natures way my rear end
and who will take care of our overpopulation then, armed bears? killing for survival is instinct and i cant argue with that but this seems to be a room full of self satisfied carnivores (even the vegan is playing along), if they had a chat room 100 years ago in antebellum south we would all be having the same chirpfest at the expense of humans with lots of pigment in their skin. Animals suffer as much as we do, killing is unnecessary we can all do just fine without meat of any sort, in as much as you eat meat it is a choice and a cause for cruelty to another wholly sentient being. up to us, it is always up to us
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Rashind Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 05:36 PM
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78. I'm vegan, but I have no problems with hunting.
I figure dying of a gunshot is a damn sight better than starving to death due to overpopulation, or getting hit by a car and getting all your legs broken, left to die slow on the side of the road.

I wouldn't hunt, personally, because I don't like to cultivate the killer instinct in myself. Ideally, no one would want to. But, my problem is not with hunting in particular, it's with the entire human drive to kill.

What you're doing as a hunter can easily be characterized as either bloodthirsty murder or humane culling of the herd. I'm not the final judge of your actions, you are. All I would ask is that you spend some time carefully considering your actions and the ramifications both for your victims (if, indeed, they are victims) and for yourself and your own character. If you come to the conclusion that what you're doing is justified, thumbs up, go to it, and enjoy if that's consistent with the moral character you'd like to cultivate in yourself.
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luckyluke Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 06:02 PM
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85. Thank you thank you thank you...
...for saying something that needs to be said. I'm vegetarian and I am OK with hunting too - I'd much rather people hunt than buy meat at the supermarket. Factory animals live a horrible life. Why do people not get this?

-ll

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=388016&mesg_id=390077&page=
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 06:04 PM
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86. Thank you
Well reasoned thoughts are precisely what I'm looking for.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 05:55 PM
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80. Bambi deserved it
cute is way over-rated
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shepard Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 06:35 PM
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87. give thanks
the animals don't really die -- their souls are reborn, that they give their bodies to us so that we can survive.Ahe'ee Nehemah
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 06:38 PM
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88. I will probably never understand killing as a sport
but beyond that I really don't have an issue...and if you need someone to cook the venison...I am the chef :D
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 06:47 PM
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89. Flower will avenge his friend...
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 09:29 PM
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90. No problem -- but I hope you honor your animal brother after a kill...
And simply thank him for for giving his life, within the larger cycle of life.

Just seems like the right thing to do.

:toast:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:35 PM
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93. Many congrats to you!!
Would be great to be someplace where you can bag more than one deer a year.

And thank you for using as much of the deer as you can!

I don't get the anti-hunting people, unless they're Buddhist and/or totally vegan. They're still wrong, but at least I can understand their point.

Enjoy your venison! I'm jealous!

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BuckeFushe Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 11:02 PM
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96. If you are allowed four per season, one should be donated for the hungry
After you've dressed it out. I see no reason why your bounty shouldn't be shared if possible.
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CandyCrim21 Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 11:03 PM
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97. Time and Place please!
I'll join your for dinner and I'll bring Supply Side Jesus with me. If he doesn't eat, well, more for us!;) There better be mashed potatoes though!!
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