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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 10:09 AM
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How would this world be different if Gore was the winner in 2000
I mean, he was but unfortunately we had to deal with criminal sorts including Katherine Harris, Karl Rove and the neo-con determination to steal the election.

Just the fact that 68,000 Jewish Senior Citizens probably didn't vote for Pat Buchanon would have been enough votes to put Gore over the top. But then there was all the other stuff that is well documented

Moving forward, let's roll back the clock to Dec 12th, 2000 and it's announced that Al Gore is the president. How would the world be different than what it is today?

First thing that comes to mind is 1,800+ americans would still be alive, thousands more wouldn't be suffering with debilitating handicaps and although Saddam would probably still be running things in Iraq all those Iraqi's civilians would still be alive

Ok, what else would have been different?
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katmondoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 10:11 AM
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1. The Supreme Court would be fair again
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 10:14 AM
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2. The attacks on September 11th may have been prevented
because Al Gore would have taken the Clinton Administration's warnings about Al-Qaeda seriously rather than poo-poo them the way the Bush Administration did.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:01 PM
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22. I don't think that's why they would have been prevented
I think they wouldn't have happened because it wasn't part of Gore's plan.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 10:16 AM
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3. Hundreds of thousands of Americans would still have their jobs.



And they would still be getting overtime pay, which is now outlawed.


Buck you Fush.


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AverageJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 10:19 AM
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4. No 9/11
because no BFFE to either LIHOP or MIHOP.

No war in Iraq.

No looming financial meltdown.

No catastrophic rise in hatred of America throughout the world.

No Democratic Underground.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 10:22 AM
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5. That's probably the biggest negative about a Gore Presidency
we wouldn't be here.

:cry:
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 10:22 AM
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6. On a personal note, I probably would have never met most of you.
Gotta take the bitter with the sweet. :)
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 11:34 AM
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8. Well, Bush did say he was a 'uniter not a divider'
he united all of us!
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 10:33 AM
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7. a lot of ways
1) 9/11 would have been stopped. We'd have seen a small blurb in the newspapers about 18 Arab men being detained in an airport in an alleged hijacking attempt. Michelle Malkin would then write a column denouncing the liberal AG for racial profiling.

2) The recession would have still happened, but it would have been far milder & not accompanied by a HUGE run-up in the deficit.
Gore would have created government jobs by investing in our infrastructure and not tax cuts for the rich - highway & mass transit upgrades; power grid improvements; etc.

3) The Gore Admin would have sat down & hammered out a better Kyoto agreement.

4) Osama bin Laden would have been caught or killed. I believe the special forces were ready to go in late 2000 or early 2001, but Bush called them back when he took office. The Taliban would have fallen, too, as I believe we were in the process of slapping sanctions on them. Or else, they'd have given up Osama.

5) One of the more liberal Supreme Court justices would have stepped down into retirement.

6) Outsourcing of jobs to China & India would have continued, but at a much slower pace, as Gore would likely have spearheaded some legislation to get rid of tax breaks for outsourcers.

7) America would still be admired around the world & still be a destination of choice for top foreign students.

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Sannum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 11:35 AM
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9. Um....he was the winner in 2000.
Thanks to the Supremes, we have Putz in Boots.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 11:42 AM
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12. Imagine if he was actually serving
unfortunately that never happened

:cry:
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felonious thunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 11:38 AM
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10. We'd all be here complaining...
about what a conservative Gore is.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 11:41 AM
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11. I would have thought I was the last liberal from Perry County
obviously you were - after you moved I think the county went 100% Red
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felonious thunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 11:44 AM
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13. Nah
I still know some good liberals that live there. My mom screams louder at the TV than I do when she sees Bush.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 11:46 AM
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14. Your mom still lives in the same place?
Actually I think that the guy who married the younger Allander girl ran as a democrat for city council. He might have been your class - Christopher Albright.
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felonious thunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 11:50 AM
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16. Yep
And in fact, my dad likely cast the only Cobb vote in the entire town.

The name's familiar. He might have been a couple of years after me. That's pretty funny to hear that town described as having a "city" council!
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 11:52 AM
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20. Hey speaking of which, I haven't seen you around here in awhile
Edited on Fri Aug-19-05 11:54 AM by LynneSin
grad school keeping you busy?

You should come up to the protest in DC on the 23rd of September. Should be a good gathering!

BTW, my mother said she heard this might be the last year of the Marysville Carnival. Guess the Lions club has pretty much fallen to pieces and can't get any volunteers to help run the thing. Shame - that was such a great time every year when I was a kid - great memories! My father was always the Food Co-ordinator for the event each year
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felonious thunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 11:57 AM
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21. Very
I've popped in from time to time. But I've also been wary because I know that several of students in the classes I've been teaching have been at least familiar with this site. And despite what the right wing says about us elitist loony academic types, I really don't want to them to find out my politics.

I probably won't be able to do that, but I'm doing my part to keep some blue in my new very red state.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 11:47 AM
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15. we'd aLL be speaking AAAAAY-rab
:eyes:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 11:50 AM
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17. There are two ways we have to consider this question
The first way, if Gore did what Gore is capable of doing:

The US would be respected as a nation, we'd be on good terms with just about all countries the world over.

9-11 never would have happened. And if it did, we would have Osama by now, and the true culprits would have been found, and a major, indepth investigation would have happened.

We wouldn't be attacking a soveriegn nation. And if we were, we wouldn't be doing so in such a backwards, useless way. Our troops would have the equipment they need, there would be more troops there, and they'd actually have a definable mission as well as an exit strategy, and it really actually WOULD be about helping Iraq become a democratic nation so that we could get out as quickly as possible.

Our economy would be stable and good, probably even moving up. Jobs would still be plentiful, and we'd be happier as a country.



However, the other way we have to ask the question is, what would it REALLY be like:

It would be almost just like today, because no matter how good Gore is (and I think he's great), the republicans would have had him impeached in week one and would have hamstrung him constantly, badmouthed him, and constantly called his every action into question and refused to cooperate or compromise on anything. They would likely have shut down the government like they did with Clinton. Even if 9-11 still happened, the republicans would have stopped gore from attacking Afghanistan, called him a coward, told him that Osama was no threat, and blah blah blah.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 11:51 AM
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18. We wouldn't be $7 trillion in the red
The massive tax giveaways to the rich wouldn't have happened.

The economy would be in much better shape. 3 million+ jobs would not have vanished in the past 5 years.

We would have continued to have budget surpluses. President Gore would have retained the same economic team as under Clinton...including Robert Rubin as Treasury Secretary.

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LissaM Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 11:52 AM
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19. My gas wouldn't cost $2.70
and wouldn't be predicted up to $5/gallon. Come on, I CAN'T spare $50 every three days to fill up my friggen Toyota!!!!!
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