If Che Guevara was still alive

[Tom Kitten]

do you think he would post here in the Lounge?

I know, another rhetorical question!

[expatriot]

1. No, he'd be a GDer or GD:P.... he'd probably actually be banned

considering his views on armed revolution. He was a radical rather than a progressive.

[Tom Kitten]

6. spew!

God I needed a good laugh!

and as promised...:hi: expatriot!

[expatriot]

14. hi again T.Kitty

I'll call you T. Kitty. Or should it be T. Kiddy.


I am going to bed now. see ya.

[Tom Kitten]

20. I'm loose with my handle

TK or Tom or whatever people can think up are fine with me!
Have a pleasant good night!

[democracyindanger]

2. Yes, and he would say

"Enough with the t-shirts already."

[Shipwack]

21. Either that or...

... he would be demanding a piece of the action.

Probably have his likeness copyrighted, too.

[Droopy]

3. He would probably try to lead the lounge in a revolt against the groups

[jmm]

4. Che's rolling in his grave right now over people like

Jay "I’m like Che Guevara with bling on, I’m complex." Z



I wish he could come back and avenge himself

[expatriot]

9. My observation's been that most famous people roll over in their graves

at some time or another due to some historical irony or another.

[Liberal In Texas]

5. Probably as much as Osama posts. Che was a terrorist.

Romanticized up the ying-yang, but a terrorist. (OK, maybe a Freedom-Fighter...depending on your point of view.)

[Crazy Guggenheim]

7. He'd be with his buddy Fidel.

[expatriot]

11. They weren't all that friendly in the end.

Che realized that the ComIntern was a failure.... that Cuba had become the Soviet's bitch just as they had been America's under Baptista. Instead of supplying the U.S. with sugar it now supplied the Soviet bloc with sugar. No difference. Fidel was practical (and content with power) enough to accept this reality. Che was to idealistic to accept reality and ran off to South America. I don't know much about it but that is how I understand it in a nutshell.

[Tom Kitten]

8. I was wondering

because I watched the movie "Che" with Omar Shariff as Che and Jack Palance as Fidel...
They seemed like decent people :D

[Heidi]

10. You've gotta stop believing everything you see in documentaries,

Tom Kitten. :rofl:

[Tom Kitten]

12. finally!

someone who understands my sense of humor!!! :loveya:

[Heidi]

13. I understand it because I'm married to

your evil European twin.

I bet you hate Wesley Crusher, don't you?

[Tom Kitten]

16. not really

I like his Mom and who I am to deride her son... especially since they live 400 years in the future?

[Heidi]

17. "Mommy, make Tom stop tickling me!"

:rofl:

[enigmatic]

23. Oy!

I need to smoke a massive bowl and watch this..

[Tom Kitten]

26. oh how I envy you!

nothing but stems and seeds here!
Imagine how it feels starting this mess but I'm not going to cut and run!

[alarcojon]

15. I just got the Jon Lee Anderson biography

a couple of days ago. It is long and promises to be an interesting read.

Che was a complex figure, a great leader but a lousy politician, an inspiring idealist but a vengeful ideologue.

Just like the rest of us here in the lounge! B-)

It is amusing to wonder just what he would think of the t-shirts and all the uninformed idolatry. Reminds me of the line from Hannah and Her Sisters: "If Jesus came back and saw what's going on in His name, He'd never stop throwing up."

[Heidi]

18. I'm not dissin' Che . . .

but I seriously doubt that he'd be so fondly remembered if he hadn't been so very handsome, and had he not worn a beret with such great aplomb. :shrug:

[alarcojon]

19. You may be right

and the first person to put him on a t-shirt helped his memory immeasurably.

[Heidi]

22. Trotsky vs. Che.

If Trotsky had been better looking, he'd be turning up in cheap, Chinese-made T-shirts all over the world, too. I'm just sayin' . . .

[Tom Kitten]

24. Trotsky had more than an image problem

anyone who's ever had the trotskys can surely relate!

[Heidi]

25. As enigmatic would say,

"Oy."

[khashka]

29. I'm not sure if that's funny or nasty

But don't dis Trotsky, Heidi, or there'll be some major ass kicking in the Lounge.

I loved him for his mind.....


Khash.

[Heidi]

33. It was a prop to Trotsky.

I love Trotsky _at least_ as much as you do, Khash, so do don't threaten me with an ass kickin. If he'd been half as good looking or as "fashionable" as Che, we'd all be wearing Trotsky T-shirts today, and Trotsky would be cursing us from the grave for our commercialism.

May I PM you with the name of what I found to be an absolutely excellent Trotsky reference (four volumes) that sits on our bookshelf?

[khashka]

35. PM me with impunity

Any girl who likes Trotsky is my kinda gal....

Khash.

[AussieDave]

27. No I don't, because he and Fidel would have had an argument

and Che would have wound up with an icepick in his head.....

Viva La Revolucion !!!!

[khashka]

28. The mods would be all over his ass

So would I but in a very different way :)


Actually I owe him a debt of gratitude. When I was in High School and hated everybody and everything he inspired me to actually do something, to get political, to revolt.

I'm still revolting and I owe it all to him.

Khash.

[datasuspect]

30. you're not revolting

you're actually very pleasant.

[zippy890]

31. I don't know

but DAYem is he good-looking in that poster

did you see the movie Motorcycle Diaries? excellent flick about che in his younger years

[miss_kitty]

32. If Che Guevara was still alive

He would have outlived the guy who took the photo of his corpse

from Democracy Now!, 19 August 2005

Che Photographer Freddy Alborta Dies
"...Bolivian photographer Freddy Alborta, famous for his image of revolutionary Ernesto "Che" Guevara lying dead, has died in La Paz. He passed away on Wednesday at the age of 73. In 1967, Alborta was one of a group of journalists allowed to view Guevara's body after he was captured and executed by CIA backed forces. The picture of the leftist guerrilla, with his eyes open and surrounded by soldiers, was first published in a Bolivian newspaper and then transmitted by newswire around the world as proof Che was dead..."

As for the posting, I think he'd be too busy with his own blog to post at DU

[JimmyJazz]

34. I don't think he found much humor in things, so I would have to say "no"

:shrug:

[khashka]

36. Come on Jimmy, that's not fair

He was passionate, committed, dedicated....

But then so are you. One of the many reasons I love you.


So he was a communist revolutionary. But he did it with beauty. And you are a single mom and a punker chick and a total sweetheart. And you also do it with beauty,

Respect where respect is due. There is too little beauty in this world - when it shows up, we should celebrate it.

Khash.