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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:42 PM
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Do 'friends with benefits' say "I love you"?
What's your take? O8)
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:43 PM
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1. No
Maybe when drunk, but not when sober.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:44 PM
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2. If things have progressed to the point where one party says that,
it's no longer a FWB situation.
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ahem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:47 PM
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3. No. Maybe there are exceptions, like when it's clearly an "I love you as
I love all my dear friends" kind of thing, but there shouldn't be any casually throwing around "I love you" like one would in a lovey-dovey romantic relationship.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 10:13 PM
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4. Hmmm.
I don't think he's being casual... but, to date only twice, has pointed out the "FWB" aspect so I am confused. That or he means more than FWB but wants to take things more slowly and uses "FWB" as the best means to say it. Which would fit in to what's going on, I'll admit. And I don't think he is consciously trying to lead me on out of cruelty.

I think there is potential, but it is 'wait and see' - maybe I gave him the wrong impression... time will tell.

But having been burned in the past, I've got my proverbial flame-resistant underwear on... just in case. :-)
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 10:14 PM
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5. this concept baffles me
maybe I need new friends . . .

:shrug:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 10:24 PM
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10. Friends with benefits means....
You have a friend and the two of you have sex. But there's no romantic connection, from what I've been told...

Does that help? :shrug:
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:11 PM
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17. I understand what it is
I just can't conceive (so to speak) of any of my friends, um, doing it.

how does the subject, um, come up? I have a bunch of women friends, but I think they'd all freak out if they even thought I was thinking of them that way.

And how do you just stay friends. I can understand casual sex, but not with someone with whom there is also a real fridnship.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 12:13 AM
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24. You got me there...
I have no idea..how they set it up or anything...seems as though this is something that the young (college-age) kids do....

:shrug:
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 10:15 PM
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6. Not unless it is in the "heat of the moment"
People say strange things at that time.
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 10:41 PM
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15. yeah, that was just phone talk... pay me no attention
:P
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:08 PM
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16. I never do.
:silly:

Was it good for you?
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:12 PM
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18. absolutely
:thumbsup:
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:17 PM
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19. Same here.
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:18 PM
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20. the 'i love you' just slipped out along with everything else
:P
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:19 PM
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21. It was a rather intense conversation.
Don't worry-I knew what you meant.:blush:
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 10:16 PM
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7. apparently some of them do.
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 10:25 PM
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11. ...
:o

:shrug:

:P
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 10:27 PM
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12. huh?
:o
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 10:19 PM
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8. You can't get there from here.
If they say "I love you," then they aren't friends, they're lovers.
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 10:21 PM
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9. i wouldn't know
i never get the benefits :shrug:
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 10:33 PM
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13. sure they do, or can, hubby refers to them as:
"symbols of love"...still, as with love whenever offered, the more unconditional the better imo though that may be a utopian concept for many
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 12:54 AM
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27. there are no degrees of "unconditional..." there are either conditions or
Edited on Mon Aug-22-05 01:25 AM by expatriot
there are not. That's why, despite my radical views on social issues, gender issues, etc. I am a staunch philosophical backer of monogamy. That is not to say in any way whatsoever that I am puritanical in that I think "open" relationships or "polyamorous" relationships should be discouraged or banned in any way and it is not like I am willing to judge those who choose to engage in such relationships.

A just of am the philosophical belief that a strong partnership/love is based on a recipicosity of 1) being both fully devoted to your lover-partner above any other and 2)trusting that your lover-partner fully devoted to yourself.

This recipricosity is not a fairy tale or a utopia. It is acheivable. Chance (not fate) sets the ball in motion and then it depends on the initiatives, choices and reactions and mediations between the two lovers as to the product.

Unfortunately we are at the mercy of the sincerity and characteristics and choices of our love interest as to whether the project will succeed just as they are at the mercy of ours.


I am not proud to be an American since I never did one thing to be born as citizen of this great land of wealth and prosperity (relative to the rest of the world). I am not proud of my college degree since I was born to two white school teachers in small town Iowa and for me not to have graduated from college would have been the extreme exception. the only area of my life by which I can be proud of and take pride in is in my marraige.











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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 01:07 AM
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30. well now that's a mixed bag of 'zero tolerance' conditions...
imo of course
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 10:39 PM
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14. usually, although I had one that was wierd about it, so we didn't n/t
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Tallison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:24 PM
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22. Depends on the stage of sex
I wouldn't take anything said pre-climax seriously, though.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:47 PM
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23. Not in my experience...
...lest things become more than "friends" - at least to one of the people.
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 12:21 AM
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25. The friend who loves says it over and over but not outloud...
in fear of scaring the friend who just wants the benefits away.
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 12:33 AM
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26. Yes. But it's not a "I want to live with you and have a life together"
type love. More like a "I trust you and appreciate who you are" type thing. Very rare. Snow leopard rare.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 07:12 AM
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33. Ah! You've hait the nail on the head!
Edited on Mon Aug-22-05 07:15 AM by HypnoToad
Thanks! I'm just worried the head will turn into a missile, go *boom*. :-(

I need to think... I care for him, and think he's the right guy for me, but if I am not the right guy for him then I need to do something now... Maybe it's too soon for me to think he's right for me; compared to all the others he seems by far the most sincere and admirable.

I know the things he has said to me... about not trying to live up to some shallow image, and I think that's a good thing... I don't know.
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the_spectator Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 12:55 AM
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28. "Friends with benefits" -- is this the...
... "What Makes You Feel Old" thread? No?
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the_spectator Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 12:59 AM
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29. Second response:
If you're the guy, NO. You're defeating the whole purpose of the FWB scenario, and if you say that you'll soon be a Friend Without Benefits so fast your head will spin.

If it's the girl what says it, I guess it means that you as the guy have a crystal-clear signal of your ability to make this a real "relationship" if you so wish!

Glad to be of help!

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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 01:44 AM
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31. I think it generally means....
someone wants to take this to a new level.

Are you open to that? Are you ready?

Once that Pandora's Box is opened, there's two ways to go:

1. Open your heart a little more and see where it leads.
2. If one person doesn't love back (or can't meet the other's needs or isn't ready or whatever), it's time for buh-bye. Otherwise, it's endless twisting of guts for someone. I don't believe in gut-twisting. It's either there or it's not. When it's really real, there are no questions or confusion for either party.

Just my 2 cents. Take it. Leave it. It's all good.

Best wishes! :toast:
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:02 AM
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32. for me, only those with death benefits
.
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 07:30 AM
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34. Not unless they want the relationship to evolve
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 07:40 AM
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35. yes !
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