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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:10 PM
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$112.00 for a college Algebra text!
Jesus H. Christ on a bicycle! Her books weren't near that expensive last year.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:12 PM
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1. try half.com
i got my $120 algebra text there, new for $20! and, it was the instructor's edition! :D
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:50 PM
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20. I love you!
I just came back from there and saved almost $200 on textbooks!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:27 PM
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28. evl, there is also a bookstore
right across the street from Johnson Co Comm College that has great deals on textbooks. My kid buys most of his books there.
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:38 PM
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33. II'll tell her, thanks.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 07:29 AM
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44. Awesome!
I'm so psyched for you! :bounce:
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 12:15 AM
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47. Your tip also helped her boyfriend
and the daughter of one of my co-workers.
I love DU!
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:13 PM
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2. My daughter just spent $700 on her nursing books
She starts school Thursday. Geez, you could damn near furnish a library with that.
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:14 PM
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4. Just wait for year two of a second Bush admin.
That's when it's over. Enjoy this year though.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:14 PM
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3. We just spent $500 dollars on books for my daughter for high school.
:( But, that's the price we pay...no pun intended. :hug:
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FuzzySlippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:16 PM
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6. Is this a public high school??!!
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:21 PM
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9. No. She won a scholarship to a private school...they just don't tell
you about the "other" costs...like books, bus fees, lunch fees....Blech.
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FuzzySlippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:25 PM
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12. Congrats on her scholarship!
I was worried there for a sec that kids were being priced out of a public education. Anything's possible in Shrub's America.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:24 PM
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26. I went to high school on a scholarship and I know what you mean
My mom told me years later that they really struggled to afford the 'extras'.
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:16 PM
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5. 6 years ago
I spent $120 on a used calculus book....sure, I used it for 3 semesters...but still...wtf?


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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:18 PM
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7. I'll see your $112 algebra book and raise you a $144 Physics book
the new edition of this book just came out this summer and I can get the older edition for like $40 online...I just have to wait and ask the prof if it is absolutely necessary to get the new edition. And the real kicker is, I hate physics!
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:21 PM
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8. i'll see your $144 Physics book, and raise you a $175 zoology text
Ha! :D
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:22 PM
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10. damn you win!
:P
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:23 PM
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11. it's a beautiful book though, i will say that
lots and lots of pretty photos of animals :)
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ofrfxsk Donating Member (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:26 PM
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13. I'll raise you another
One, yes ONE of my architectural geometry books cost me $350 in 1989!
I win!
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:35 PM
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16. oh that's amazing
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ofrfxsk Donating Member (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:42 PM
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17. I kind of enjoyed that part of my life.
All I did was go to school and waitress. I paid it all off before I was 28 mostly by waitressing.
Life is better now. I'm glad I went through it.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:48 PM
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18. When we are young we have energy
I got my masters when I worked full time. I could NEVER do it now. I can't even figure out how I did it then other than very little sleep and lots of coffee. PS Good for you!
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:34 PM
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30. get the old edition
they haven't learned any new physics for at least 30 years. Certainly not at the intro level Gravity is still equal to G*M1*M2/4pi-rsquared
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justabob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 07:44 AM
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45. How about a $165 Spanish I text
I expect to pay a lot for math and science book, but my eyes bugged out of my head on this Spanish book. Only available new of course.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:27 PM
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14. Do the math....
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:33 PM
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15. Algebra has changed SO much since the 1960s.
Algebra may divided into "classical algebra" (equation solving or "find the unknown number" problems) and "abstract algebra", also called "modern algebra" (the study of groups, rings, and fields). Classical algebra has been developed over a period of 4000 years. Abstract algebra has only appeared in the last 200 years.

The development of algebra is outlined in these notes under the following headings: Egyptian algebra, Babylonian algebra, Greek geometric algebra, Diophantine algebra, Hindu algebra, Arabic algebra, European algebra since 1500, and modern algebra. Since algebra grows out of arithmetic, recognition of new numbers - irrationals, zero, negative numbers, and complex numbers - is an important part of its history.

The development of algebraic notation progressed through three stages: the rhetorical (or verbal) stage, the syncopated stage (in which abbreviated words were used), and the symbolic stage with which we are all familiar.


http://www.ucs.louisiana.edu/~sxw8045/history.htm


Why it changes every day! One must keep up with the latest. 'Course my algebra books were free. That must mean that they weren't worth squat. Those free books prepared me for a 4.0 in math courses (calculus and differential equations) at Georgia Tech. Give me a break! I am shocked.



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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:36 PM
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31. sure in the 1970s there was "Disco algebra"
but it died. Now its all algrebra rap.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:50 PM
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19. If billy had a text book that costs $112.00 and if he passes the
class he has a chance of making almost $1 million dollars more in the "real" world, how come his sister listens to Lindsey Lohan.....
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 10:24 PM
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21. Aaaaaaargh!
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 10:25 PM
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22. I paid $98 for my math textbook last semester. USED!
New it was $122!
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ucmike Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 10:46 PM
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23. i'm convinced costs are tied to the amount of aid available
seems to me that as the amount of money available to students grew so did the costs associated with going to college. i'm convinced that fed. student aid programs are just a way to funnel cash from the govt to corporations. if there were no such thing as financial aid most of the companies that make huge profits on students would prey elsewhere. if the only money available for college came from parents pockets it would cost less to go to college.

back on topic: i remember paying $160 for a set of construction/physics books and only using one of them. then when i tried to sell them back at the end of the year they wouldn't pay for the unused book ("we don't need it because its not used in the class") and would only give me $25 for the other. next semester they resold it used for $85.

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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 10:59 PM
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24. I've noticed that little trend.
It is a predatory practice.
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Orrin_73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:23 PM
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25. Why didn't you copy the book
you could have get the book from the library and copied it. I do it all the time with my university book. I never buy.
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Omphaloskepsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:23 AM
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40. I have done this a few times...
I took a government class that had a $110 textbook. Luckily the bookstore was out of copies when I went to buy it. Turned out we only needed 6 pages from the book. I borrowed the book from someone in class one day and made copies of the six pages for thirty cents.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:26 PM
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27. It has gotten ridiculous
You would be shocked at what we have to pay for textbooks in elementary school. And library books - OMG.
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LastKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:32 PM
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29. damn, i paid 200 for mine
last year. ok well it was a calc book. but still.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:37 PM
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32. Ha! I paid close to that over 20 years ago.
$227 in today's dollars, you tightwad.
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:41 PM
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34. You're going to be jealous of me for this.
Edited on Tue Aug-23-05 11:42 PM by JonathanChance
UW-Stevens Point has textbook rental for most textbooks. You go to the bookstore, grab your textbooks, and return them at the end of the semester in exchange for a small fee tacked on to your tuition bill. You do not pay for your books uless you damage them, lose them, or want to keep them. The only textbooks that one really has to buy are workbooks, forgien language dictionaries, books on software, and the public speaking textbook, which is written by the professor who teaches it. (fortunatley, I took public speaking in junior college, so I dont have to worry about that class.)
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:48 PM
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35. Yep. That's about the same as mine. All total I spent around $600 in Pell
money for text books. I'm sure glad the Pell Grant exists. I sure couldn't afford it otherwise. And yes, the excuse for the high prices about theft of books is a ridiculous lie. The college book store where I go to community college even limits how many people are allowed in the store at one time, so you know nobody is able to steal.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 12:06 AM
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36. Try Half.com
You can get new, like-new and barely used stuff there dirt cheap.


Another great source to check is MySimon . There you can comparison shop from multiple sites just by entering the title or ISBN (International Standard Book Number) of the book you are looking for. The ISBN is your best bet because it is unique to the exact book you are looking for (edition, format, publication year, etc.). Many times the course syllabus/information will have this number listed with the other book information, and if not you may be able to ask for it.

Here is the comparison shopping information for Fahrenheit 451 , which I used as an example.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 12:08 AM
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37. You do the math. n/t
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 12:44 AM
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38. College textbooks are a colossal rip-off
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 12:46 AM
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39. Textbooks don't sell enough to take advantage of economies of scale.
Look at it this way, suppose it costs roughly the same to set up your machinery to print Harry Potter or College Algebra. In the case of Harry Potter, because you'll sell so many the cost can be divided into smaller bits. In the case of College Algebra, maybe there are only a few thousand that are going to be sent to stores. This is why textbooks often are so expensive.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 02:03 AM
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41. They seem to get more and more expensive
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 02:08 AM by fujiyama
I would recommend two websites if you have sufficient time before a class (usually one week unless you don't mind borrowing one or have other plans if you don't have the book the first week).

Check out these two sites:
http://www.bestwebbuys.com/books/
www.bigwords.com (they used to sell books but that went under during the .com bubble - now they have a comparison tool).
http://www.alldiscountbooks.net/ (haven't used this but they say they search 110 stores online).

I used another great search took which gave low prices but can't find it. I'm not sure how many stores it searched but it was a lot. I never bookmarked it. When I find it I'll list it.

On edit: Here it is: http://www.fetchbook.info/ (122 stores and 66000 sellers) - likely one of the best book search tools I've seen.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 04:27 AM
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42. Algebra should not cost more than trig- $102.00.
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 04:34 AM by pinniped
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:58 AM
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43. for a mathematics book, its worth it
now, if it were an English book, or a history book . . . .
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 07:47 AM
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46. ...and it costs less than $5 to produce....
that is the real kick in the head.

I work for a company that has a textbook that is used in colleges...

We give out copies of that textbook more frequently than the literature about our software.....and the prof that wrote the book told me that it is actually cheaper to produce than some of our glossy handouts...

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