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Mon Nov-10-03 08:46 PM
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Anybody here read WOT by Robert Jordan? |
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When is it all going to end.
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Mon Nov-10-03 08:53 PM
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1. The Wheel of TIme Turns and ages come to pass. |
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And about every fourth or fifth age, Robert Jordan releases another book in the series.
I think there are only two more books (not including a full novel version of New Spring) but the time compression is getting on my nerves. I love the series and wish it would end but at the same time I wish it would never end.
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Mon Nov-10-03 11:35 PM
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21. RJ's proven notoriously innaccurate in predicting how... |
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many books it will take for him to complete the series.
My guess is three, but my hope is two.
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Mon Nov-10-03 09:11 PM
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2. I've been reading since about book 4 or so... |
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and I'm just about burnt out on the whole "wait for the next book in which absolutely nothing of consequence happens" thing... I'm seriously debating whether I should even keep reading them as they come out, or just wait 'till he's done and save myself the aggrivation.
In the meantime, however, I AM avidly waiting for the next book in George R.R. Martins Song of Fire and Ice series, which if you haven't read it, is well worth it.
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Mon Nov-10-03 09:15 PM
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4. Good to see another fan! |
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Martin does in one book what it takes Jordan to do in 3.
Additionally, it's the only fantasy series where I actively worried for my favorite characters--half of whom are dead by book 3.
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Mon Nov-10-03 10:32 PM
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11. and i love the way he really makes the characters real... |
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e.g. what he does to Jaimie. With all the information we've got about him now, I still don't like him, but I understand him... He's not just a 2-d villin.
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Mon Nov-10-03 10:35 PM
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12. when the first major death happened in book one |
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I went "WOW!"
That and he killed a few of the wolfs right off....wow. Not your Father's fantasy series.
No one is really a villain in the books, except for a few...like the Boy King ;-)
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Mon Nov-10-03 10:38 PM
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13. I also liked the early use of "fuck" |
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For some reason, LotR characters always seem like they're living in a cartoon world to me. In Martin's world, you best NEVER be taken prisoner.
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Mon Nov-10-03 11:37 PM
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23. I never could enjoy Martin... |
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Book I (whose title I can't remember) was okay, but I couldn't finish book II...
His writing style just didn't work for me.
Wheel of Time is infinitely better, to me at least.
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Mon Nov-10-03 09:13 PM
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3. Break the Wheel of Time habit |
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Read George R. Martin's "Song of Ice and Fire" series and you'll never go back!
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Mon Nov-10-03 09:36 PM
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Jordan will likely croak before he thinks up a way (and then writes it) to tie up all the wild-ass loose ends in his novel.
Knowing this helps one acheive an inner peace about it.
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Mon Nov-10-03 09:40 PM
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Edited on Mon Nov-10-03 09:40 PM by khephra
Read Martin and you'll kick the habit!
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Mon Nov-10-03 09:48 PM
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7. Yeah, but I read both....AH! I'm a junkie!!!! |
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I still like Jordan, but I'm really hoping that everyone who is killed from here on out gets balefired so we don't have do with anymore recycling.
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Mon Nov-10-03 10:21 PM
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9. What frightens me is that Jordan has sold the rights |
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for the first three books to be made into a mini-series.
Dune as a mini on tv might work, but WoT?
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Mon Nov-10-03 10:19 PM
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8. I've read Martin. I don't have a habit. |
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At this point Jordan's writing is so disjointed and meandering that I slog through the books only out of morbid curiousity. Considering the size of my reading pile, that doesn't exactly qualify as 'must read.'
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Mon Nov-10-03 10:22 PM
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10. So you're on the Martin side? |
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It looks like this is a "nIce day for a "Red Wedding"!
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Mon Nov-10-03 11:08 PM
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14. Yup - but I've quit..... |
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I really like his writing and the world he creates, but the loooooooonnnngggg wait (and the great excuses for the delay from his wife) are getting ridiculous. I intend to wait till, if, he finishes, then do one big read-through. I have a friend who is also a WoT fan whom I mentioned on another thread about generals that democrats trust - he's a 2-star, ret, and 85 years old. Seriously worried that he won't be around when the series ends. In which case he'll wait at the pearly gates and give Jordan a major dressing-down when he appears. This guy was a general in the Army Rangers; he knows dressing-down/
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Mon Nov-10-03 11:14 PM
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Edited on Mon Nov-10-03 11:28 PM by elad
I've read the entire series a few times, end to end. I wasn't too impressed with Crossroads of Twilight (edited to fix title), it was the first book I actually found boring in the series, but I think it was an important book to the storyline, and that Jordan will come back in full form with the next book.
I also harbor the feelings that I wish it would end, but at the same time I wish it wouldn't. I want to know how the story ends, but at the same time, the world he creates is so intense and vivid, that it would be a shame to have it end.
Jordan is also my favorite fiction author, so to the naysayers I stick out my tongue and say: PPTTTTTHHHHH!!! :)
I've also met Robert Jordan, several times. I have two autographed books and a personalized autographed poster.
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Mon Nov-10-03 11:18 PM
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16. ELAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Edited on Mon Nov-10-03 11:19 PM by khephra
I haven't seen you a long time!
Have you tried Martin's work? For you, I'd buy a copy of the first book and send it to you, just so you could have the chance to read it.
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Mon Nov-10-03 11:21 PM
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No, can't say I have. It takes a lot to get me to read fiction. I prefer to read non-fiction, or fictionalized non-fiction (based on real events).
And I have to say that I'm quite biased. I don't believe that any fantasy author could live up to RJ, so it's even harder to get me to read fantasy novels. :)
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Mon Nov-10-03 11:24 PM
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19. No one I've read can really compete with RJ... |
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I couldn't stand Martin, Goodkind became sort of boring eventually and I became tired of the anti-socialist pro-free market anti-women thinly-veiled propaganda (or maybe I'm simply paranoid) hidden in his books.
Winter's Heart was fantastic for me, but Crossroads of Twilight was the worst book yet (though still great.)
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Mon Nov-10-03 11:27 PM
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20. Yes, Crossroads of Twilight |
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Did I say Winter's Heart? My bad... I also found Crossroads of Twilight to be the worst, but like I said, I think it set the series up for a KILLER 11th book.
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Mon Nov-10-03 11:21 PM
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Edited on Mon Nov-10-03 11:21 PM by Darranar
It's a truly excellent series.
As to when it will end, your guess is as good as mine.
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Mon Nov-10-03 11:35 PM
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I stopped about midway through the fourth book. It's the same reason I stopped reading the Lord of the Isles books; I just lost interest. I don't know why, and I've thought about giving them another chance, but it just doesn't appeal to me anymore.
As for the Song of Ice and Fire series, the damn thing reads like a freakin' soap opera. At first I was intrigued by the multitude of plot threads, but by the time I was a quarter of the way through Storm of Swords, I realized that Martin has no intention of resolving any of them, and the whole thing's just going to get more and more depressing. I'm a repressed neurotic with deep-seated self esteem issues; if I want to be depressed, I'll just stare at myself in the mirror for an hour. I read to be entertained, and on that front, George R. R. Martin just doesn't deliver.
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Tue Nov-11-03 02:14 AM
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24. I've read them all except the latest |
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Couldn't bring myself to do it. Dull, dull, dull.
Still, I met a lot of great people on the Robert Jordan Usenet Newsgroup, so I can forgive him.
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Tue Nov-11-03 02:20 AM
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25. Yes, and that would be the same group |
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I had in mind in the 'all caps/shouting' thread.
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Tue Nov-11-03 03:01 AM
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I should really start reading that group again. So many smart people, so little time...
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