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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 05:45 PM
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Why football is better than baseball (Rant)
I wrote this a few years ago and a version was published in a local alternative newspaper......

If you like college or pro football, and more of us each year are drawn to the games, chances are you agree with the basic premise behind Affirmative Action. But if your cup of tea is pro baseball, and we all know where the attendance for that sport is headed, then you are probably inclined to dismiss anything remotely connected with the concept of Affirmative Action. Simply put; football seeks competitive parity while baseball revels in market domination.
Beyond the obvious difference between the sports such as Football fans at both the college and pro level are represented by the common man, fans with painted faces screaming hard for their team while Baseball's number one advocate is George Will, lie fundamental differences that split along the progressive conservative ideological line.
For example, football approaches everything like a work in progress. Nothing is sacred and everything is subject to making the game better. Every year, sometimes it seems every minute, there are new guidelines, some kind of tinkering with the game that will confound and delight fans. With this "we'll try anything" approach to make the game better goes a willingness to admit mistakes. This makes the game exciting by being relevant. In contrast, baseball's last attempt to evolve was the designated hitter rule and that is still being nit-picked decades after it was adopted.
Football thrives in diversity, not just on the field, which is important, but also in its approach to the sport, where it is imperative. Rules implemented and enforced at both the college and pro level have embraced parity that should, as free marketers will tell you, have stifled competition and destroyed the game. (Does that argument sound familiar?) But just the opposite occurred. Meanwhile, baseball continues to resist every attempt at leveling the playing field within the game itself. If you follow the argument of those same free marketers who say any attempt to curtail competition will prove fatal, then why is MLB limping into the 21st century faced with the real possibility that several teams will soon be downsized?
On the collegian level, not that long ago, football teams were able to offer up to 120 athletic scholarships. It wasn't unheard of for a coach to grab players just to keep them from a rival team. Would these players see action? Not likely as depth charts at every position ran deep. Schools with large endowments and national reputations dominated the sport. When the number of legal scholarships dropped to 85, the sport took off. Players, who once rode the bench at Enormous U, are now able to start and excel at smaller colleges. Competition replaced dominance as more teams representing smaller schools joined the fray thus expanding the fan base.
Pro football? Pete Rozell long ago recognized the value of having competition open to as many teams as possible. By conducting the players draft in a worst to first order, the bottom team of last year could easily become a competitive team next. This made the assessment of talent and the ability of the coach and front office perhaps as important as the product on the field. The NFL thrived even when competition was shackled by these restrictions.
Because of these steps, which can easily be considered Affirmative Action, football has a universality that baseball, or for that matter any other professional sport, can only envy. Consider this: network executives are always fretting about who will make it to the World Series. Last year, corporate media's biggest fear was a match-up between small market Minnesota and medium market St. Louis. Where's New York? We must have California! And this year's College football championship face-off between Ohio State and Miami would have, if it was a rematch of the Cleveland vs. Miami World Series, sent network executive grabbing for the antacid bottle. Instead, this match-up enjoyed monster ratings.
Baseball's refusal to embrace anything except complete market-based competition between its clubs inherently produces a narrow parochial base of fans while the football model of evening the competitive playing field between teams transcends such limited territorial boundaries. New York dominates in baseball because it has more resources at its disposal. It's that simple. Teams such as Cleveland or Kansas City may only have one chance to grab the brass ring before limited market size forces them back to mediocrity. As for football, the second largest media market, LA, doesn't even have a pro team. Go figure.
The charge that Affirmative Action stifles the efficient operation of the markets by limiting competition is groundless. Even Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan, hardly a moderate let alone remotely liberal, recognizes what opponents of Affirmative Action refuse to admit; that an unrestricted marketplace doesn't always produce the best outcome. Just ask Bud Selig.
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 07:28 PM
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1. I'm a Football fan ...
who never liked Baseball ...
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:24 PM
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2. New York dominates in baseball?
Zero titles since 2000, including cover-your-eyes flops against two recent expansion teams, not to mention the biggest collapse in the history of postseason baseball against their hated rivals, the 2004 World Champion Boston Red Sox. Not exactly dynasty material.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:34 PM
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9. Historically........
Yes, they still have to play the game but the Yankees are always at or near the top. And a lot of that has to do with sheer market dominance as compared to other teams....

The tribe has only been competative maybe 25% of the time, much to the chagrin of this DieHard Cleveland Indians fan....

Whereas the Yankees have been competative probaly 65% of the time....

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bixente Donating Member (464 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:24 PM
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3. You call that a rant?!
"Why football is better than baseball (and any other sport)," by Bixente.

1. Football is the ONLY true world sport. It is played in South America. It is played in Europe. It is played in Africa. It is played in North America. It is played everywhere - football fans in Iceland, football fans in Peru, football fans in Burkina Faso...and these fans come from a massive variety of people - poor kids in Africa play football, it is their favourite activity, their favourite thing to do in life. It is treated like a religion by many. Unfortunately, this passion, which is unrivalled by any sport in the world, creates problems, hooligans, ect.

2. Unlike other sports, like American football, you can be tall and lightweight, and excel at the sport. You can be short and bulky, and excel at the sport. It doesn't matter what height, weight, amount of muscle you have - anyone can play the sport, and enjoy it, excel in it.

3. Baseball is such a simple sport - there's a pitcher, batter, fielders, ect. - but there are so many different aspects to football, so many roles you can perform - of course, there is the goalkeeper. There are the side backs, centre backs, defensive midfielders, attacking midfielders, wingers, wingers that drift to midfield, wingers that drift from the left of the pitch to the right (an excellent example of this is Belarussian Aliaksandr Hleb), and vice versa, forwards, strikers, goal poachers, winger forwards...

4. Unlike ignorant people who believe nothing happens in a match - no goals, players that pass it to each other, and NOTHING else - this is, of course, nonsense, spewed by people that have watched, at most, one match in their life. I will give you one example of many. Last season's Champions League final, of Liverpool versus Milan. The match has been going for fifty seconds. Djimi Traore, of Liverpool, fouls Kaka, of Milan. The resulting free kick results in a goal from Milan's captain, Paolo Maldini. His first goal he has scored in years. In the rest of the half, two more goals are scored, both by Argentine striker Hernan Crespo, both of them lovely goals, created by Ukrainian striker Andriy Shevchenko and the aforementioned Kaka (beautiful through pass!). Milan lead 3-0 @ half time. Game over, considering the calibre of Milan's team. By the end of the match, Liverpool have made a miraculous comeback, and won. Incredible, one of the finest matches you are likely to see. Not a 0-0 "snorefest".

I could give countless other reasons, but I will let the sports immense popularity, speak for itself.

Wait, I have merely spouted the virtues of football, and totally ignored baseball. Apologies.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:28 PM
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5. Yes we like soccer....
But I was making a comparision of why "United States" professional football is more progressive than "United States" prefessional baseball
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:30 PM
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6. I had a thread about that this afternoon...
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bixente Donating Member (464 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:40 PM
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11. GOL!
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLAZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok.
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dannofoot Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:28 PM
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4. Okay, here goes...
First of all, baseball is far more diverse in both players and fans than football. Not just nationally, but worldwide. Name the amount of Japanese, Koreans, Dominicans, etc. playing in the NFL. A few Samoans and one Vietnamese do not nearly counter the ethnic and homeland diversity that baseball has.

And sure, the NFL has a salary cap that "levels the playing field." Well, aside from the universally despised George Steinbrenner, Baseball teams are almost all on basically the same field. Those who can't compete financially due to what their market will bear, suffer - but hey, what's more American than that? It's called sports capitalism. What you're preaching is - gasp - a form of football socialism! Yet you seem to spend an awful lot of your screed on the dollar/market impact of football.

The reason that baseball is so much more favored on an international level is simple: A Baseball game is truly is a metaphor for life. People of all cultures can understand the subtle nuances of individual performance and decision making that are inherent in a game with no time limit; in football, the odd shape of the ball causes a number of outcomes to occur regardless of the players' acumen. There are few "lucky" outcomes in baseball; they are rampant in football.

Finally,your example of small market teams being left out in baseball can be proven wrong this year...one that you mention, the Cleveland Indians, are sneaking up on the White Sox, and are tied for the wild-card spot with Oakland, another (even smaller) limited market team. That's because baseball has this thing called a farm system, where individuals (from all over the U.S., South & Central America, etc.) advance (under contract) due to their performance - not because they were coddled out of high schools, protected and coddled through college, and pushed by billionaire agents before they've ever played a professional game, as in the NFL.

That said, of course, I'm currently glued to my computer watching the Browns/Panthers game...Go Dawgs!
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:32 PM
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7. Well, I was trying to make a larger metaphor
about how market savy and more competative restrained market system can be than one that is purely based on the sure naked power of market share....

BTW, Tribe on top of Blue Jays 5-3

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dannofoot Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:51 PM
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12. WCGreen,
let's just look at the NBA for the savvy, constrained market. Since the early '90's I can't recall an NBA player or owner I've thought of as a "positive" sports role model, and the NBA as a business is rife with corruption (mostly in the recruiting phase)...yet they drive $billions every year. Lack of subtlety in the game, the "in-your-face" style of play and marketing...it's bread and circus.

Gone are the days of class acts like Magic,McHale,Kareem,Bird, et all. Today's NBA makes both the NFL and MLB look like saints.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 10:22 PM
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13. Good point.....
It's all about the show........

The pro game is corrupted so badly that I can't even watch it anymore.... It's like a live action video game....
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:33 PM
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8. ...or, I could just like baseball because it's fun
And I hate football because it's boring to me and I don't understand it.

Jesus.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:34 PM
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10. I've never been particularly sports-minded, my dear WC....
But when I read a well-written article such as yours, that all changes...

You have a lot of insight...and you express it very well, IMHO...

The LA Times used to have a terrific sports writer, who died a few years ago...

I no longer recall his name, but whenever he wrote, I read him...

He was a most compelling writer..and made whatever sport he was writing about live for me...

BTW, check your PM..


:loveya: :pals:
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 10:35 PM
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14. Let's let George Carlin speak to this and settle it
http://home.earthlink.net/~sscutchen/baseball/Quotes/baseball_vs_football.htm

Baseball is a nineteenth-century pastoral game.

Football is a twentieth-century technological struggle.

Baseball is played on a diamond, in a park. The baseball park!

Football is played on a GRIDIRON, in a STADIUM, sometimes called SOLDIER FIELD or WAR MEMORIAL STADIUM.

Baseball begins in the spring, the season of new life.

Football begins in the fall, when everything is dying.

In football you wear a helmet

In baseball you wear a cap.

Football is concerned with downs. "What down is it?

Baseball is concerned with ups. "Who's up? Are you up? I'm not up! He's up!"

In football you recieve a penalty.

In baseball you make an error.

In football the specialist comes in to kick.

In baseball the specialist comes in to relieve somebody.

Football has hitting, clipping, spearing, piling on, personal fouls, late hitting, and unnecessary roughness.

Baseball has the sacrifice.

Football is played in any kind of weather: Rain, snow, sleet, hail, fog...can't see the game, don't know if there is a game going on; mud on the field...can't read the uniforms, can't read the yard markers, the struggle will continue!

In baseball if it rains, we don't go out to play. "I can't go out! It's raining out!"

Baseball has the seventh-inning stretch.

Football has the two-minute warning

Baseball has no time limit: "We don't know when it's gonna end!"

Football is rigidly timed, and it will end "even if we have to go to sudden death."

In baseball, during the game, in the stands, there's kind of a picnic feeling. Emotions may run high or low, but there's not that much unpleasantness.

In football, during the game in the stands, you can be sure that at least twenty-seven times you were perfectly capable of taking the life of a fellow human being


And finally, the objectives of the the two games are completely different:



In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"

Note: I coached high school football for 5 years, played in college and in semi-pro until I was 25

I would rather play and watch baseball.


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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 10:42 PM
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15. If this country had the NFL buisness plan
We would have the worlds top economy.
:applause:
Great article.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 06:51 AM
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16. thank you. I agree. Restrictive competition
does not stifle productivity, it makes the people smarter, more adaptable to change and gives brains, cunning and perseverance a chance to level the uneven money distribution of a free market.
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