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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:15 AM
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Hey lounge... It's been a real tough couple of months round here...
What's going on every one out there? I know this is going to be quite a rant, and I don't expect a lot of you to read all of it, but thank you for your time if you do.

Not to take anything at all away from all the Hurricane victims, but this has been just two incredibly difficult months for me. As some of y'all might remember, about two months ago, my fiancee broke up with me. Unfortunately, since we are under lease until the end of the year, I've still got to live with her for the next four months. It will certainly not be easy. Making it even less easy is the fact that I learned she had cheated on me (which apparently prompted the "sudden" break up) with a guy across the friggin country. The low point really came on Sunday, when I stumbled across a picture of them kissing and a couple of emails they'd sent back and forth. It pretty well devastated me, especially since all of my friends were gone for the weekend and I had WAY too much time on my hands. I know it's sort of cliche to say it, but she really is the last person I expected to ever cheat on me. Not all that long ago, back in December, she started sobbing uncontrollably, apologizing to me that she'd ever been with ANYONE before me. Even in February, she was looking at wedding dresses and pretending that she was already my wife. Then, later that month, her friend came into town to visit for a few days with her new boyfriend and they stayed at my place. Yeah, she not only cheated on me, she stole her friend's boyfriend too. She said they were just friends as they kept in touch past that weekend. And I certainly don't think it was the wrong decision on my part to let her have a friend - after all, I do not want to be that jealous, controlling type of guy.

Here's the unbiased description of the guy too: in his mid thirties, lives with his mom and dad, still hasn't finished culinary school because he keeps screwing up, spent time in jail for DUI, used to be on heroin, and is being sued for not paying medical bills. And those are just facts - I won't even touch on personality or looks, because I realize I AM quite biased. Compare that with me, a clean cut, college grad on a solid career path that treated her like absolute royalty and provided her with by far the most loving and stable environment she's ever known.

Truth be told, that part actually does make perfect sense to me. She'd always told me that the other guys she'd dated she was always trying to help. But with me, I never needed saving. I also think part of her felt extremely guilty about that, because she does need saving, in a big way. I will always mourn for her, because no one needs to deal with what she's been through, having been molested as a child and raped as an adult (and that's just the tip of the iceberg). She has frequent panic attacks and constantly freaks out about having diseases or being pregnant. Of course, she kept a lot of that to herself until I'd already fallen in love with her. In fact, one of the things I did love about her was that she seemed so mature and stable. The truth is she is neither. As much as I did, and still do love her, I did quietly have my doubts that she would not be able to stable enough to raise kids or even stay married in the long run. But there was no way I could just walk away from her. Being a man of my word, I meant it when I said I would always be there for her. Of course, that matters little now, as there's no way in hell I could ever trust her again with my heart. I will remain her friend and stand by her when she needs help (except, of course, when it comes to that guy. No fucking way I'm helping her through that.) I am, after all, the only person she can actually rely on. She knows her family and friends consistantly lead her down the wrong path, either out of selfishness or merely being fucked up themselves. And yes, it bothers me immensely that she could do what she has to the best person she knows. I know it bothers her too. I don't think she knows how or why it happened. I don't really either, except a truly perfect storm all shaped together at once (February was a rather difficult month all around). I think more factors played into this than either of us imagine. Again, not that it really matters. The bottom line is the same.

So, here I am now. I've gotta live with her until the end of the year, and there's no way around that. There are going to be ups and downs, just as my emotional status sways back and forth between being okay with things, to being extremely angry, to missing her immensely. I am a strong man, and though this may yet be the end of me, I most certainly will not go quietly. I am still looking for a new job, and I hope to be in one by the end of the year. I'm going to keep myself busy with my friends, getting out as much as possible. Now that I've sold my car, I'll have money to actually enjoy myself, and I intend to with reckless abandon. Though I can't go on a healthy three month bender like I would've a few years ago, I can do my best to simulate that while still being "career responsible". I'm going to start attending the Unitarian Universalist Church this Sunday. It's something I'd been wanting to do for a while, as I've always been intrigued by studying different religions, and I think it'll be really good for me to meet a group of like minded people, hopefully some of whom will be my own age (which is important, since my current job I work with only three 65+ year old guys, and I'm 25). Though I am not ready to actively start dating again, and being that my living status does impede on my ability to start a new relationship, I am going to keep an open mind to possibilities without being very aggressive.

Thanks for listening. I really needed to get a lot out. Please wish me well and help provide me a little strength, because no matter what kind of outlook or stance I take, the next four months do figure to be extremely difficult for me. Thanks!
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:26 AM
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1. wow man, that's rough.
But, maybe it was better that this happened before you got married - that would have been a whole other level.

I think the UU church will probably be good for you - I attend something somewhat similar, and have never felt better. Just wake up thinking about the good things, it will make each day be so much better than if you wake up with dread on your mind.

Keep on moving forward - life is a journey, not a destination.

:hug:
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:43 AM
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4. Thank you
Yes, it is better that this happened now before marriage and children. Of course, it'd be far better if it didn't happen at all, but i know what you mean.

I am trying to be as positive as humanly possible, and I think that I'm doing a decent job. It isn't always that easy though, as you might imagine. Thanks again for your support! :hug:
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:30 AM
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2. Hang in there buddy - I hope things get better for you
It sounds like you're taking positive steps to make things better. Godspeed!
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:46 AM
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6. Thank you very much.
I am trying my best to make things better. At very least, no one can accuse me of wallowing. I don't know what the future has in store for me, and I don't have a lot to point at and say "Yeah, everything's going to be fine", but I'm going to do what I can with what I have. Thanks so much! :hug:
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Rising Phoenix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:33 AM
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3. for you...
:hug:
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:49 AM
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7. hugs are quite needed.
thank you :hug:
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:43 AM
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5. Aww Vash
:hug: You sound like a wonderful young man with a lot of admirable qualities. I'm sorry you're having to go through this.

It's very hard to realize when the people we love can't or won't love us back in the way we deserve.

And I agree, as much as it hurts, it's better to know and break up now, rather than busting up a marriage several years hence when perhaps children would have been in the picture as well.

The UU church would be a good place to start rebuilding your life. And remember we Loungers are always here too.

:hug:
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:51 AM
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9. Thank you so much for your kind words
:hug: Yeah, it might well be better that it happened this way compared to how it COULD have happened. It does give me some comfort, but this is still going to be a really long road ahead.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:50 AM
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8. Aw, I am so sorry. That has to
be hard on you. Look, I am glad you found this out about her before you did marry her though. I know you probably can't take comfort in that just yet, but one day you will see that you deserve someone much better. Someone who treats you like you deserve. Living with her will only prolong the getting over her period. I wish you the best and again I am sorry. :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:15 AM
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12. You know, that's the toughest part of all of it
This was literally an overnight transition. Immediately prior to her April visit to Chicago, she was absolutely perfect. She quite near worshipped me, and I her. We treated each other like royalty and had one of the most loving and affectionate relationships most people had ever seen.

Like I said though, a perfect storm brewed in February to sabotage things. She was still a little anxious over us taking the plunge to moving in together, and although she was dealing with that well at first, other things happened. For one, she got medical confirmation that she had, in fact, been molested by her father (most people who've been through that have memory gaps, so she was never fully sure prior to then). That's was pretty devastating for her. I got screwed by my current job in not getting even my annual raise, after being promised to be promoted. This made the new apartment a financial struggle for both of us, completely stagnating going out and having a good time. It also, as you might imagine, made me a little depressed too. The new apartment was a stretch for her budget too, and she had to work more hours at her part time job and less doing her artwork (she's a professional artist). Because of my job situation, her shithead mother started telling her that I was no good because I'd always be poor, so that started poisoning her mind. And then, to top it all off, a new reclamation project showed up quite literally on our door step. Of course, don't forget her myriad of other pre-existing mental issues.

Is all of that any kind of excuse for her behavior? Absolutely not. Alls I'm saying is that it's hard for me to pass this off as I'll find someone who treats me the way I deserve, because before the cheating, she did treat me better than anyone else had. And I also have a hard time saying that we weren't right for each other, because we were. Other than over the cheating issue, we'd never fought. We always had a good time together. We most definitely had chemistry.

No, I most definitely did not deserve to be cheated on. Not in any way imaginable. And I know that's your point, and you're absolutely right. But it's hard for me to just look at that one thing, mostly because I don't want to forget about all the good that came from my time with her. Most of it really was the best time of my life. And I'll always be grateful to her for that. I'll also always mourn the fact that her issues are going to continue to cause this self-destructive behavior unless she gets the help she needs. She does deserve to be happy, because my situation aside, she is a good person with a beautiful soul. But she's not going to find it any time soon without professional treatment. I did my best to provide her with everything she needed. I gave her all of the love in my heart, loved her unconditionally, treated with the admiration and appreciation that she deserved, and yet it still was not enough for her. I have no regrets whatsoever that I did all I could for her, and I also am aware that the disintegration of our relationship is mostly doing to things beyond either of our control, but they reside within her, and not me. It does give me confidence going forward, but little comfort right now.

Thanks for listening again. :hugs:
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:19 AM
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14. I know what you mean. I am sure she is a good
person and dealt with things in the wrong way by cheating. Who knows? But my point is that you don't deserve to be cheated on. That was the cherry on the sundae. After all that y'all had gone through, you find that out. I just hope that time heals your heart. Things will turn around, you'll see! :hug:
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 12:01 PM
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16. I hope so too!
:hug: All I can say is that I'm just extremely tired. Just need some good news, and soon!!
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:53 AM
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10. You are a very strong person
Not that that makes anything better right now.

:hug: wish you well in the next four months.

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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:16 AM
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13. Thank you.
I began to realize my strength last night. It may not be enough to overcome this, but I'll be damned if I don't go down fighting.

:hug:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:00 AM
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11. My dear Vash...My heart goes out to you...
YOu have been enduring a living HELL. I am so sorry that she has treated you this way..or I should say these ways...She seriously needs therapy, but I doubt she's getting it.

But you know exactly what you need to do, and you are doing it. There's nothing quite like having the self-control to take the situation in hand and do what you can...A lot of people would just bitch and moan, but not you. Well, you are, but those aren't the only things you're doing. YOu have a plan, and it sounds like an excellent one.

I was relieved to see how young you are...you have many many years to find the right girl and settle down with her. If you were 50, it would be harder. Please hang in there and watch as your actions help to improve the situation..After the first of the year, you'll be able to move from your house, and that will be very freeing for you..

And as another poster said, you have US...Please feel free to come into the Lounge and post the threads you need to post...we will support you. You will feel the love that is possible here. I have felt it myself, late at night in the Lounge..and it is wonderful. It will be here for you as well...

You are in my thoughts... :hug: :pals:
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:31 AM
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15. As of right now, she is not getting help.
Prior to last week, she said she was going to start therapy because she knows she needs it and she wanted to try to make things work with me. Of course, I was not going to tell her that I didn't think I could trust her again because I know she absolutely needs help. And before I saw the pictures and emails, there was a chance I might've tried to make it work too, but that feeling is most definitely gone. As far as therapy goes, I don't think she's made an appointment, but she's also very busy with work this week. I'm not certain she will follow through.

Yeah, I am bitching and moaning. I've really needed to. It helps to level out the highs and lows a little. Hell, I probably could stand to get some therapy myself, but without any insurance and little money, there's no way I can get it. But talking things out with my friends has helped a great deal. And my parents have been wonderful.

And yes, I am also grateful to the lounge. Though I haven't been posting much lately, simply because I don't want to bitch and moan TOO much, it does help having you guys around. :hug:
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 02:06 PM
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17. I just want to thank everyone that's posted here
You are all wonderful people and your support is so very appreciated! :grouphug:
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