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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 11:20 AM
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Why is cow called beef, and pig called pork...
Deer is venison...But chicken is chicken, lamb is lamb, and duck is duck (etc)?

They should sort this stuff out already. It's very confusing. :crazy:
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 11:24 AM
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1. because you have invoked the wrath of the gods by posing such questions
Edited on Sat Sep-10-05 11:25 AM by sundog
you will now slowly go mad searching for the answers
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 11:26 AM
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2. Steers are also called 'beef'
and a sheep is called 'mutton'.

:shrug:
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 11:26 AM
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3. French had better table manners than Anglo Saxons
French ate pork and beef and the natives ate cow and pig.
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VespertineIconoclast Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 11:54 AM
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13. This ties into what you were saying --
This website discusses the origins of the words in relation to the classes of the people.

http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mmuttonpork.html

-VI
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 11:27 AM
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4. Nope, chicken is "hen", lamb is "calf"....
Duck is still duck though!
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 12:44 PM
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20. Lamb is calf? Kid, maybe?
Calf is veal.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 11:29 AM
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5. But why are checken and duck fowl and everything else OK?
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 11:30 AM
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6. Speciesism!!!!
:grr:
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 11:37 AM
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10. Good one
:rofl:
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 11:31 AM
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7. *rimshot*
:rofl:
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 11:57 AM
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15. chickens are gallitas you make pollo from. n/t
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 11:35 AM
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8. Ahem...Poultry?
Commoner... :eyes:
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 11:35 AM
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9. The food forms are from the French
Edited on Sat Sep-10-05 11:37 AM by tofunut
If memory serves, after the Noman conquest the upper classes spoke mostly French and a lot of our "food words" come from Fench. Those eating the food ate beef, venison, poultry or pullet, pork, salmon, pigeon, mutton--all words from French. The lower classes (ie the English-speaking people who worked with the actual animals) retained the English forms.

Duck was probably called canard at the table, but I don't know why that hasn't held on so well.

And sorting English out? Good luck!

edit: "loin" is not an animal!
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VespertineIconoclast Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 11:45 AM
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11. You have a great memory!
Here's a website to back you up -- just look under word history:
http://www.answers.com/beef

I usually love to answer random questions like this. :)

-VI
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 11:59 AM
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17. Thanks!
I had the good (?) fortune to take a combined class in advanced structure (grammar) and history of English in college. The professor was a complete lunatic genius, and a lot of strange information still sticks with me.

(Thanks for the link--lots to see there!)
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VespertineIconoclast Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 12:20 PM
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19. No problem.
You have to love that strange information that stays with you. :)

-VI
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 11:53 AM
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12. Well now see, THAT makes sense
Thanks! :yourock:
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 12:00 PM
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18. Glad to be helpful!
If I had a :puffingupchest: smilie, I'd use it here!
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 11:57 AM
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14. Why is Soylent Green people?
God, that makes me cry. :cry:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 11:58 AM
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16. Hmmm. We have cock, mutton, and oh hell, duck.
2 out of 3 ain't bad.

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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 12:55 PM
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21. It all tastes like squirrel to me...
RL
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