Girly girls and liberal guys

[angee_is_mad]

is this a match made in heaven or hell? This liberal, girly girl would like to know!

[bluestateguy]

1. Please elaborate

I need more information?

[CandyCrim21]

2. I second that notion!

[Maple]

3. What the

hell is a 'girly girl'?

Your identity is such an iffy thing you have to say it twice??

[Dogmudgeon]

4. Wow

That was unpleasant.

--bkl

[Maple]

9. What's unpleasant

about it?

Are full grown men listed as guyish guys?

Would that mean extreme macho types with a six pack on the side?

[RandomKoolzip]

13. Ya ever heard of a "man's man?"

Kind of the same concept, I guess.

[Maple]

16. Not since the

50's.

Kinda died out for good with the Marlboro Man I think.

[JanMichael]

49. It's not an uncommon saying.

You've never heard it?

[Bucky]

5. No no, hell no!

I'm a liberal guy and I want a WOMAN, a strong intelligent, pissed off, lady-in-public-rabbit-behind-closed-doors (or in-the-back-yard when the kids are away) hard workin, hard dancin, don't need the pot no more, shut-up-and-pass-the-potato-salad, Roy-Orbison-sings-about kind of woman. That's what I want.

Girly-girl. Sheesh.

[Maple]

8. Yeah

angel in the kitchen, devil in the bedroom.

What they used to say back in the 50s.

Usually involves a lot of pink fluff too.

Girly-girl??

Most men want women.

[dreissig]

27. Shades of Pat Suzuki

Pat Suzuki is the "I Enjoy Being a Girl" girl. I talk on the telephone for hours ... with a pound and a half of cream upon my face ...


I enjoy being a girl

[SmileyBoy]

6. Heaven, definitely. Please, tell me more.

This liberal guy wants to know...:-)

[RandomKoolzip]

7. If there were some award the mods could give out

for the most incomphrensible post of the year, I believe this would win it. What the hell does this mean?

[Dogmudgeon]

10. My attempt at a translation

"I'm a feminine woman who wants to hook up with a liberal guy, and I want you to encourage me."

For some reason, women think they can't be feminine and progressive at the same time. And nothing brings out insecurity like dating.

I think she should bat her pretty little eyes until he wants to practice making babies with her.

--bkl

[RandomKoolzip]

12. "You speak Jive!"

Ah..Ahem. Well, as a committed heterosexual male liberal, I must admit to a fondness for cheerleader-types with ponytails (that's my only fetish, I don't know why...). So sure, go ahead, it might work.

[angee_is_mad]

18. that's my point

It seems that a liberal, progressive woman isn't accepted if she takes pride in her appearance ad isn't interested in mountainclimbing,kayaking,and camping in a tent and prefers Jimmy Choos to birkenstocks!.

[Maddy McCall]

21. Yeah, the rest of us wear overalls and doc martens

:eyes:

On edit: For the comprehension of scarily intelligent girly girls, the above comment was meant as SARCASM.

[angee_is_mad]

14. girly, girl

is label given to ultra feminine women. The ladies who get manicures every week. The only time she is athletic is when she is pleasing her man. She never leaves the house without her makeup. She wears high heels like you wear sneakers.
But she can also be liberal in her political views and be so intelligent that it is scary. She makes her own money, has her own home and car,and would only need you for mental and physical stimulation.
So would a liberal(progressive) guy be so put off by the prissy exterior, that he ignors the fact that on a deeper level the two of them has so much in common?

[Maddy McCall]

15. You have GOT to be kidding...

This has got to be a joke, right?

Are you THAT insecure? Surely not.


So you are saying that a girly girl is a narcissistic, man-centered barbi doll with an opinion. Whatever.

[angee_is_mad]

22. no barbie

and no insecurities, just curious. A woman shouldn't have to be referred to as Barbie, if she is interested in her appearance, just like a woman who isn't interested in her appearance she be referred
as being masculine.

[Maddy McCall]

26. Whoa! Your intelligence is scaring me!

"and no insecurities, just curious. A woman shouldn't have to be referred to as Barbie, if she is interested in her appearance, just like a woman who isn't interested in her appearance she be referred
as being masculine."

Care to reword that? :wtf:

[angee_is_mad]

31. lol, This is a hypothetical

but I do not wear overalls unless I am painting. I am just curious about the views of the liberal males and how they view different types of women, so quit being so darn defensive. This is not a slap toward you or women like you.
I think the party has enough room for the overalls and the high heels.

[Maddy McCall]

33. LOL! You know nothing about me...LOL LOL...

I am feminine but can't stand women who act as if feminine women are some kind of oddity in the liberal fold, as if all liberal women are ugly, masculine women.

Why is it even an issue to you? Wouldn't you rather have someone like you for you instead of your outer package?

[Paragon]

17. Gee, that sounds awful

I'm just sorry you're in N.C. ;-)

[Maple]

19. Manicures?

Every week?

Pleasing her man??

Wears high heels like others wear sneakers??

What year you living in girlfriend???

[Maddy McCall]

20. Oh but girly girls are so intelligent that it's "scary!" LMFAO!!!

Methinks the polish fumes have penetrated the girly girl's brain.

:puke:

[angee_is_mad]

23. Attractive women can't be intelligent?

[Maddy McCall]

28. Never said intelligence and attractiveness are mutually exclusive

but I do think that someone who labels herself a "girly girl" as if it is some achievement that she is pretty and feminine and who comes to a forum to proclaim it perhaps has some esteem issues.

[angee_is_mad]

32. it is the label

put on her because of her appearance.

[geniph]

44. Athletic women can't be attractive?

You're sending some very weirdly mixed messages here.

[Dogmudgeon]

24. Stop listening to idiots!

Be what you want to be.

I've known many feminine women who were competent and politically liberal.

A "prissy exterior" is probably a turn-off, but that really isn't a benificial feminine attribute.

If you ask other people, especially idiots, how to act, they will always steer you wrong.

Good luck -- I hope.

--bkl

[populistmom]

25. I'm not sure what you mean

I wear makeup daily and my hair is nice. I tend to like to look very feminine. I don't have manicures every week though and my excersise has to do with my health. High heels on occasion, but not every day.

I suppose what a progressive type guy might not like is that if he perceived you to be shallow or materialistic. However, I have never been with a guy who wasn't progressive (not that I've had a chance to get around much) and my "fem look" didn't seem to put anyone off.

If you like a particular man, just let him know. If you're a decent person, hopefully he'll be flattered.

[kalashnikov]

29. just a heads up to all the ladies;

progressive guys are just like every other guy, we like hot chicks. Thats all. In that respect we arent too progressive. If theyre smart and agree with our views thats a plus. But I know Britney Spears is no liberal feminist and I would still take her over 99% of the female world.

[Maddy McCall]

30. There is nothing WRONG AT ALL with looking feminine...

what I find funny is that someone has to ask if it's ok to look feminine while being intelligent and liberal. It insinuates that liberal women are unshaven, unmanicured, and slovenly butches.

We come in all shapes, types, gender identities, etc. This thread is so SUPERFICIAL.

[angee_is_mad]

37. it probably is

superficial, but my thread asked the question girly, girls and liberal guys- a match made in heaven or hell?
You, jchild seem to have taken the question to a whole different level. It was a curious question that seem to have touched you on a very personal level.
I feel that women should not attack each other based on appearances, but instead they should welcome each other,even if that woman appearance in your view is superficial. It makes one think who is being insecure?

[Maddy McCall]

38. Ok...I will respond seriously...

First of all, your question was hard to take seriously because of the way it was worded. Quite frankly, it made no sense--you had to clarify before anyone even knew what you were asking.

Second, through your question you assume that most women who are liberals aren't attractive. That is WRONG. I like all kinds of liberals, and the last characteristic by which I would judge them is their appearance and whether their nails are perfectly manicured.

Third. Intelligence. Who said that beautiful women cannot be intelligent. I NEVER said that. But you have to admit that claiming that you are "so intelligent that it is scary" would lead some to wonder if that is really so.

Fourth: So many people stereotype feminists as haggard, slovenly women who don't care about their appearance, and this is not true. We are just like everyone else. You are not unique because of your looks.

Fifth: Guys at DU are just like the broad cross-section of the general American populace. There is no single "liberal guy" type, just like there is no single "liberal girl" type.

And finally, this is so incredibly superficial that I can't see an intelligent person worrying about it. Maybe it isn't intelligence you lack but self esteem.


And a final word: Did you really not think that this question wouldn't provoke some kind of backlash> No one attacked you on your appearance--my problem is your cloaked stereotyping of liberal women as ugly and unconcerned about their appearance. That's just not so.

[angee_is_mad]

34. thx populist mom

as I said this was a subject that I've always been curious about, and I purposely used extremes like a manicure every week, so that I could paint a picture in ppl minds.
As you can see, some ppl have definite anti-girly girl views so far, and I find that pretty interesting, considering that liberals are so inclusive. Its almost like sometimes some women have to play down their looks to be taken seriously.
So guys would you hold an immaculate appearance and manicure nails against her?

[TacticalPeek]

11. Like Morgan Fairchild and . . . uh . . . . .me!

:silly:

[WeirdSceneGoldmine]

35. Shop around

Decide what you like and use your charm to satisfy yourself and your goal. If you find yourself faking then reaccess and try again.

[Tredge]

36. Judge raps his gavel

Too many generalizations in the question. Care to rephrase?

(I think she's got a good question but she's got to get a lot more specific about her terms and also needs to state her own point of view.)

-Judge Ratched

[angee_is_mad]

39. perception is everything

Not to be sterotypical but I know some guys tend to be very visual by nature. So, I used extremes to paint a picture(evidently not a good one). But I wanted to know if a liberal(progressive) guy would be turned off, by a woman who obviously took time on her appearance and wasn't the most athletic gal around, but mirrored his views politically and was his intellectual equal.
An example as far as appearance is concerned would be someone like Catherine Zeta Jones and I hate to use her as an example-Jennifer Lopez.
My point of view is, we grew up hearing never judge a book by its cover. I used this when I have met a gentleman whom I wasn't physically attracted to initially, but I took the time to really get to know him and it was one of the best relationships I have ever had.

[Kenneth ken]

40. perception is a starting point

only.

Any thinking woman would realize that any thinking man, whether liberal or conservative, would, in any relationship, fairly quickly move beyond the superficiality of appearance, and the relationship would grow or whther based on such factors as common interests, philosophical attitudes, and mutual rspect.

[angee_is_mad]

41. I agree

[Nlighten1]

42. Why would a liberal be turned off by a woman who...

takes pride in looking good? Unless, that was all she cared about maybe. An intelligent, attractive, "CZJ" type would be a wet dream for almost any red-blooded American male.

Especially if she is intelligent.


Welcome to DU btw

[WeirdSceneGoldmine]

43. With no loving in our souls and no money in our coats

Come on Baby, dry your eyes
But Angie, ain't it good to be alive?
Angie, they can't say you never tried

[phgnome]

45. Girly girl

I know what you're talking about and here's my interpretation of a woman who wears high heels every day and follows the no leaving the house without make up rule:

I've been like that and it's always attracted stupid, shallow men...men who would freak out if you cut your hair, men who are controlling, men who I would be better off without.

When I scrapped all that, I had time to do more interesting things and become a more interesting person. Constant nail care stops you from "ruining" your hands and, therefore, prevents you from doing fun things. Make-up: again, you can't be spontaneous and leave the house on a whim. You have to shower and put on your make up. Heels: it stops you from going out into the woods with a dude you like after work. You just can't hike through the muck with them.

It's not just the appearance: grooming is a reflection of your lifestyle. It reflects the way in which you live. If you like a dude that likes to go everywhere in a car, only go to fancy restaurants, etc. then keep the hair and make-up and heels. But if the dude you like is active and likes to do things, the lifestyle that supports your appearance will hinder you.

[Amaya]

46. I'm a girly girl

and I find most liberal guys dig me. I haven't yet went over to the dark side and dated a Republican.. I just can't :)

[angee_is_mad]

47. finally a girly girl

[JVS]

48. BE GONE WITH YOUR LUSTFUL SPEECH!

Aye, tis not a matter to be discussed here at DU, lest the senses of the readers become inflamed and we turn to thoughts of fornication. Be gone foul temptress. Polute not this solemn ground with thy profanity!

;-)

[TrogL]

50. Girly girls are for Republicans

Liberals like down to earth people.

[angee_is_mad]

51. Down to earth?

Isn't down to earth an attitude and not an appearance. What does wearing highheels have to do with not being down to earth? So, if a woman wears doc martens she can not be stuck up?

[angee_is_mad]

52. down to earth?

What does wearing highheels have to do with not being down to earth? That's like saying if a woman wears birkenstocks she can not be stuck up. I thought that being down to earth was an attitude and behavior, but I guess I was wrong. Evidently being down to earth is based on your appearance and not your behavior.

[LastKnight]

53. i think it can work both ways...

it all depends on the people as individuals... thiers girls (of both extremes) that i just click with and some others that... well... i dont... and im guessin its like that for other people as well.

just one dude's opnion

-LK

[no_arbusto]

54. This is the problem with liberals

We don't realize how truly diverse we are. Oftentimes, I even find myself looking at someone (male or female) and writing them off as superficial Republican types based solely on their appearance.

I am a straight, liberal male and I have dated both "girly girls" and "earthy girls". My current girlfriend has a Master's degree and is pursuing a PhD in entomology at the age of 26. She is no "girly girl" but is also not an "earthy girl". My girlfriend throughout high school and college was a "girly girl" cheerleader and we had the same political views for the most part. We both campaigned for Gore in 2000. I dated many girls in college that were "girly girls", "earthy girls", "earthy cheerleader girly girls", etc... My best girl friend from since I was a toddler is a very attractive "earthy girl", who is apolitical and comes from a very wealthy Republican family.

As I mentioned before, I am a straight, liberal male who feels just as comfortable in a Ben Sherman shirt and Steve Madden shoes as I do in a Steelers cap and work boots. My gay, Republican cousin would say the same thing. Look past the stereotypes. People are people.

[trackfan]

55. I tend to like manly girls and girly men....

I'm kind of kidding, but I do seem to like people of either sex who are more androgynous. My wife tends to be a bit too much of a girly-girl, but retains just enough tomboy characteristics. I usually am only tolerated by women who don't have a lot of female friends, but do like to hang out with male pals.

I know guys whos good friends are all big 200+ pound, football playing, generally white AND blond or redhead guys, who make at least 100,000 a year, and are mainly interested in NFL footbal, skiing or going to Las Vegas on the weekend. Most of my male friends are skinny, quiet, sometimes-thought-of-as-but-usually-not gay, darker brown-haired/skinned guys who usually are only marginally employed, but have a more eclectic blend of interests.