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AWD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 06:19 PM
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There was a WAR over Toledo???
Yes, it's true...a war with Ohio and Michigan fighting over Toledo.

Apparently the Michiganders were throwing grenades.

the Ohioans would then pick them up, pull the pin, and throw them back.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 06:28 PM
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1. So funny, I forgot to laugh. (nt)
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 06:30 PM
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2. Oldest joke in the book...
only I always heard it as a war between Texas and Oklahoma with the Sooners throwing the grenades over the Red River and the Texans pulling the pins and throwing them back.
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Red_Viking Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 06:33 PM
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4. Made me laugh
I hope I live long enough to see UT beat OU again. Sigh.

Hook 'em

RV
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 07:52 PM
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7. I heard the reason that Texas doesn't slide down the wall
into the gulf is because Oklahoma, er, sucks...

apologies to everyone from OK.
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smallprint Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 06:33 PM
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3. i thought you were talking about this:
Toledo War: battle between Michigan and Ohio



The most bizarre war in American history was the comic opera Toledo War of 1835 fought between Ohio and Michigan. It involved a poorly drawn boundary line, a 19 year old “boy” Governor, and armies that could not fight because they got lost in the swamps.

http://wiwi.essortment.com/toledowar_rzxq.htm
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1gobluedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 03:59 PM
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9. Ohio wouldn't...
..vote Michigan into the Union unless it gave up Toledo -- at that time everyone thought Toledo was going to be the big port on Lake Erie.

Michigan sulked a bit until iron and copper were discovered in abundance in the UP and the money began pouring in. Meanwhile Toledo sunk into oblivion as Cleveland surpassed them as the big port. Nothing there now but Mudhens...

Not the first bad decision Ohio made, not the last.

Go Blue!
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 04:04 PM
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10. "Nothing there now but Mudhens" and Tony Pacos!
MMM-coney dogs. Toledo also has a nice zoo and a good art museum. The cigarettes are cheaper than here in Michigan, too.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 04:36 PM
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11. Oh, I thought the upshot was that Ohio lost the battle
And had to take Toledo. Sort of a variation on the old joke that New Jersey has all these rats while New York has all these lawyers. The reason? New Jersey got to pick first.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 06:33 PM
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5. Yes. Ohio got Toledo and Michigan got the UP
Guess the Ohians didn't pull the pin fast enough.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 07:53 PM
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8. If the UP were given to Wisconsin...
You'd raise the IQ of both states by 50%.

apologies to Wisconsinites and Hey Bret, heal that thumb.
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xJlM Donating Member (955 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 06:35 PM
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6. Tecumseh takes Detroit!
It may be difficult to believe, but that famous Shawnee warrior (born near present day Oldtown Ohio) led his Indian forces in a decisive victory over the American general Hull, who was forced to surrender Detroit to the British general Isaac Brock. http://www.cooperativeindividualism.org/dodson_eckerthistory6.html

A force of six hundred is sent south by Hull but is ambushed by Tecumseh and fewer than a hundred warriors and forty British soldiers. The American force retreats with heavy losses to Detroit. Hull now becomes even more fearful. On the other side, this victory draws some seven hundred more warriors to Tecumseh.

Another Indian force under the command of the Winnebago chief Black Partridge and the Potawatomi chief Blackbird attacks the whites at Fort Dearborn, Chicago. All but a few of the whites are killed. The trader John Kinsey, who has long dealt honestly with the 'Indians' and is highly regarded as a silversmith, is protected from harm by the arrival of two of Tecumseh's chief lieutenants. Only days later, the fearful Hull surrenders Detroit and his army to Isaac Brock without a fight. With this humiliating defeat to the Americans, ever more warriors arrive to increase the Indian force under Tecumseh.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 04:46 PM
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12. I don't believe in Toledo
Doesn't exist.
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