We should let some conservatives into DU...

[JohnLocke]

...just to crush them

[kentuck]

1. We've had this discussion many times...

the disruption would be counter -productive.

[Langis]

2. Please god no

I have to deal with them enough on other boards, it's so nice here without them :bounce:

[jmowreader]

3. No, that's okay

I like the relatively conservative-free atmosphere here.

[JohnLocke]

4. Come on, does'nt anyone want a real debate

[thebigidea]

6. try the I/P forum. Enjoy.

[wyldwolf]

8. They offer no real debate

[ablbodyed]

10. You can't DEBATE...

with freepers. It's like talking to linoleum. And their intellect is just about as deep.

[ronzo]

25. There are plenty of BBs where you can butt heads with freeps...

This isn't one of them.


Sanctuary.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

29. Yee gads!

Please tell me this isn't the current incarnation of seriptious/warner/helmeuth/grkda!!

[Terwilliger]

Hi John

You're new here, yet you're posting a lot. Maybe you could post when there's really something to say :shrug:

[_NorCal_D_]

5. They would

probably be more trouble than they are worth. There are plenty of other internet forums where one can crush freepers. B-)

[nostamj]

7. no

crushing people is not productive

educating ONE person that they are being lied to.... that's productive

[Kathy in Cambridge]

9. We have to deal with Repukes on a daily basis-DU is an oasis

The media is dominated by these freaks-I don't want them on my message board.

[ulysses]

no.

I can find conservatives elsewhere if I want to debate them.

[ScreamingMeemie]

11. There are thousands of boards for them to post on, and I

am thankful this is not one of them.

[Mz Pip]

12. Please no

We're argumentative enough without throwing conservatives into the mix.

MzPip
:dem:

[CWebster]

13. You mean like General Clark and

his troops?

[_NorCal_D_]

17. Exactly

:eyes::shrug:

[scottcsmith]

14. Conservative-free is fine by me

Prior to discovering DU, I posted to various Usenet groups, and these groups were all along the lines of liberals/conservatives bashing each other. I finally reached a point where I was bored to tears with the discussions. Clinton sucked, Bush sucks, blah blah blah. Round and round we went.

I do on occasion drop in on Free Republic and post messages there, but this is done mainly to drum up hate mail for my web site.

[David Zephyr]

15. Aren't There Enough "Conservatives" Already Here?

We have pro-gun DU'ers.
We have anti-choice DU'ers.
We have pro-death penalty DU'ers.
We have pro-NAFTA DU'ers.
We have "right to work" DU'ers.
We have DU'ers who oppose equality for homosexuals.
We have anti-universal heathcare DU'ers.
We have pro-premptive strike war policy DU'ers.
We have DLC champions as DU'ers.
We have pro "faith-based initiative" DU'ers.

And I am not speaking about lurking Freepers, but longstanding DU'ers with thousands of posts with those views.

Are you advocating more "conservative" than this?

[WillyBrandt]

16. In fairness, I haven't seen many with many of those views at once

I'm pro-NAFTA, but that's it from the list you've provided. A single non-liberal view does not a conservative make.

It requires a tiny brain as well.

[David Zephyr]

28. That's Why I Listed Them Separately, Bro.

And "in fairness" to myself, I listed them separately.

Like you, I haven't seen many, if any, here with all of those views at once, but who knows perhaps Newt might lurk and post someday.

[Leftist78]

18. umm....

so you're saying that if someone doesn't tow the party line on every single issue then they're conservative. I thought that kind of goose-stepping was reserved for the repugs. I guess not.

[Norcom]

20. when did supporting the Constitution

become "conservative"? The 2nd Amendment should be supported by all.

And do I not have a "right to work"? Why should I be forced to join a union as a condition of employment?

[Dr Fate]

21. So long as you REFUSE the benifits won for you Unions, then fine.

There goes your weekends, health plan, sick leave, work-mans comp, paid vaction (or any vaction at all), pay raises, raises in benifits, safer work place, less work injuries, etc, etc...

Sure, you have a "right to work", but do you have a right to the benifits that Unions won for you w/o suppoting them?? I say no.

[Leftist78]

22. agreed

the problem with the so called "right to work" laws is that they have nothing to do with protecting individual worker freedoms and everything to do with stopping union jobs from spreading. It's all part of the corporate master-plan to destroy unionism in this country. They are corporate protections at their core, and workers everywhere should stand up against them.

That being said, I don't think being in favor of a "right to work" law makes you conservative. Moderate maybe, but we are the ones with the big tent so that's the way it goes.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

26. 'right-to'work' is another conservative euphemism

unions are needed now more than ever, especially with the cost of living rising far faster than the minimum wage.

[Dr Fate]

23. I agree- it is "conservative" to support the Constitution...

ALL of it. Including the right to privacy and the no establisment of religion clause. (Here is the part where you may try to tell me there is no right to privacy or separation of Church & State- Bring it on)

But the REAL meaning of the word "conservative"- the Edmund Burke definition, not the Rush-the-psychedelic-pill-popper definition of the word.

Also,you will find that many DUers like me are gun owners who do support the 2nd Amendment. We are not all lock-step boot-lickers like the Repubs.- we have diverse views.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

31. Why should a union be forced to bargain on your behalf

when you don't pay dues. I don't know what line of work you are in but that is one of the caveats of right-to- work. Talk about freeloading, name any other service you can enjoy all the benefits of while others pay for you to have that benefit.

[David Zephyr]

34. Freeloading!

You are soooooo good.

[mitchtv]

38. Surveys show that more than the higher pay in union

environments. Due process is the biggest reason to join a union. If not, its ass kissing 101, and fuck with the boss to get ahead.Right to suck ass.

[David Zephyr]

39. But How Do You Really Feel, Mitchtv?

"Right to suck ass". That just about sums it all up. :hi:

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

40. I call it RIGHT TO WORK FOR NOTHING

Ceo's have airtight employment contracts whether they perform or not...why shouldn't the average worker be able to enter an employment contract...that is what UNIONS do...collectively bargain for employment contracts...hey David...remember Kennedy's slogan...live like a Republican..VOTE DEMOCRATIC!

[David Zephyr]

42. Oh, You Can't Scare Me, I'm Sticking to the Union!

There once was a union maid, she never was afraid
Of goons and ginks and company finks and the deputy sheriffs who made the raid.
She went to the union hall when a meeting it was called,
And when the Legion boys come 'round
She always stood her ground.

Oh, you can't scare me, I'm sticking to the union,
I'm sticking to the union, I'm sticking to the union.
Oh, you can't scare me, I'm sticking to the union,
I'm sticking to the union 'til the day I die.

This union maid was wise to the tricks of company spies,
She couldn't be fooled by a company stool, she'd always organize the guys.
She always got her way when she struck for better pay.
She'd show her card to the National Guard
And this is what she'd say:

Oh, you can't scare me, I'm sticking to the union,
I'm sticking to the union, I'm sticking to the union.
Oh, you can't scare me, I'm sticking to the union,
I'm sticking to the union 'til the day I die.

--In loving tribute to Woody Guthrie.

[AntiCoup2K4]

33. Right to work

clean air act.
save the trees initiative.
leave no child behind.
restore honor and dignity to the white house.
iraq is a threat to the united states of america.

Anybody else got a newspeak phrase I left out?

[PVnRT]

35. I don't know

Why should those that wish to organize not be allowed to by law in your precious right-to-get-fired states?

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

30. Ahem

and AMEN! :D

[Ladyhawk]

43. I don't see why we all have to have exactly the same views.

I thought the whole idea of the Democratic Party was the freedom to debate some of these issues without the tone dissolving into a bout of flame-wars. I have problems with abortion in late-term pregnancy, but my solution to the problem would be better safe-sex programs in schools, etc.

The biggest obstacle to solving these problems are people who are so dogmatic they can't find middle ground...like a fundamentalist who is pro-life but against sex ed and against helping the child once it is born. Now that pisses me off.

Dogmatism--especially contradictory dogmatism--is the enemy.

[Amaya]

19. Nah..

I don't want them in my liberal haven.

[roughsatori]

24. We have too MANY here already

they are tedious enough.

[Mr. Brown of MD]

27. Repub is our conservative mascot

Where is that lovable guy, anyway?

Well, plus there's Bob Boudelang, but you know, he's too conservative for conservatives, so stop saying that.

-CollegeDude
Equal time and all that

[PVnRT]

32. Mmmmmmmmmm trolling

n/t

[Punkingal]

36. No, we shouldn't....

they are on television 24/7. Why should we have to put up with them here? They can go visit Freeperville and Lucianne where they belong.

[Swede]

37. DU is ok the way it is.

There are other sites with right wingers to argue with.

[Sting]

41. Conservatives...

need to stay away from the DU. They're not welcomed. :)
Sting

[flamingyouth]

44. No

[proud patriot]

45. I'm locking this thread

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