I think I've just lost complete respect for Jack Nicholson

[soleft]

http://www.imdb.com/PeopleNews/#1

Ranking the hysteria "right up there with the atomic bomb as events that impacted our culture for the worse", he writes in the 50th anniversary edition of Playboy magazine, "We were moving to a freer society before AIDS. "Most people who investigated this knew that if you were not shooting up or getting f***ed in the heinie, you were as likely to get AIDS as you were to have a safe fall on your head while walking down Wilshire Boulevard. But you could not proselytize this view. The facts were almost useless. You couldn't give a woman the facts and have her respond, 'Oh, all right.'"

[el_gato]

1. seems like he's been a shameless womanizer

for an awfully long time

[LynneSin]

3. Oddly enough his latest movie...

is about an aging womanizer who chases after way too young girls.

Jack Nicholson is so yesterday news. He's an old fart past his prime who dates anoexetic chicks like Lara Flynn Boyle

:puke:

[LynneSin]

2. OH MY GOSH!!! I saw that earlier today and I was flabergasted

I think Jack Nicholson should spend about 3 months in Sub-Saharan Africa to get an idea of how 'fake' this epidemic is.

I've lost all respect for him and I'm refusing to see anymore of his movies.

[THUNDER HANDS]

4. what a jackass

Great actor, probably the best of his generation, but still a jackass.

[HuckleB]

18. Umm.

Nicholson's range remains limited compared to the likes of Hoffman, De Niro, or even Anthony Hopkins...

Nicholson is good, but he's not THAT good.

[THUNDER HANDS]

39. hey, it's your opinion

Personally, I think Deniro has gone downhill MAJOR LEAGUE FAST. Hoffman hasn't done a good movie in ages and Hopkins made two lousy sequels to Silence of the Lambs.

Nicholson at least chooses good movies to make.

[liberalhistorian]

42. That's for sure, he just plays the same damn

character over and over and over again for the past 30 years.

[eileen_d]

5. An excellent example

of a man with his brain in his pants. And so I feel no remorse calling him a DICKHEAD for this statement.

[DulceDecorum]

6. What

took you so long?

The man oozes slime.
And maybe an infection or two.....

[mmm]

7. Worst actor of all time - he always 'acts' like himself...

a slimy SOB. (J. Depp he ain't!)

[el_gato]

8. he has been a great actor but he is still an ass

but I wouldn't deny the quality of his movies
most of them anyway

[VermontDem2004]

11. Worst actor of all time?

He doesn't act himself, in fact he is great at playing a convincing role in several different personalities.

[maxanne]

9. you mean

you had some respect for him??

:shrug:

[soleft]

16. I knew he would never win model citizen of the year award

But I respected him as an actor.

To say something like this not only completely devoid of empathy compassion and sensitivity - it's also just plain stupid.

He is Melvin Udall.

[CO Liberal]

10. I Lost All Respect For Him.....

...when he co-starred with that no-talent worthless piece of shit, Adam Sandler.

[VermontDem2004]

12. Anger Management was funny as hell

But whether he has not talent or not is your opinion, but he is now a worthless piece of shit? I highly doubt you even know him.

[CO Liberal]

13. I KNow Him From His "Body of Work"

And from what I've seen and gleaned from hearing him being interviewed, he's an over-rated, un-funny worthless piece of shit, IMHO.

[VermontDem2004]

14. Ok he is unfunny and overrated

But how is he a piece of shit? I don't exactly see you starring in any movies and making 25 million, selling out at stand up events. Are you a piece of shit?

[mac56]

20. Ahh, it's THIS argument again.

If he makes a lot of money and performs for lots of people, he's by definition a fine, worthwhile human being.

Geez, by that logic, Limbaugh's a saint.

Add on edit: And how are you so sure what CO Liberal does for a living?!

[VermontDem2004]

23. I forgot to make this point in this post

He does not know Adam Sandler or what kind of person he is, as far as I know he hasn't really made outrageous comments. You don't understand my logic, my logic was that by his logic Adam Sandler was a piece of shit because of his opinion that he is "over rated" and "untalented" when he is not exactly selling out crowds or staring in major movies.

I took a wild guess, if he was a movie star I am pretty sure I would've hear about it. Will Pitt sells a couple of books, makes tv appearences, and writes columns and he is a DU celebrity.

[CO Liberal]

26. You Can Tell A Lot About A Person......

....by what he says and does in public. Based on that, I consider Adam Sandler to be a worthless piece of shit.

I also put people like Eminem, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Laura Schlessinger, Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly, James Dobson, Pat Robertson, and Jerry Falwell in the same category. Care to defend any of THOSE losers???

[HuckleB]

27. What has Sandler said to offend you?

.

[HuckleB]

19. Yes.

Anger Management was funny. And anyone who has seen "Punch Drunk Love" knows that Sandler has talent to boot.

[CO Liberal]

28. Oh, Pul-Lease!!!!!

Adam Sandler is nothing more than that obnoxious kid we all went through junior high with. Only Sandler never matured........

[HuckleB]

29. Whatever you want to believe.

I won't try to stop you.

[CO Liberal]

30. And I Won't Try To Stop You

Just bear in mind that not everyone shares your opinions. And I'm getting a little tired of justifying my very low opinions of morons line Sandler and Eminem here in the Lounge.

[HuckleB]

31. Well,

I am still waiting to read what terrible things that Sandler has said to offend you. Isn't defending one's position what discussion is all about?

[CO Liberal]

32. I Just Don't Like Him

I thought he was lousy on Saturday Night Live.

I don't like anything about him.

I fail to see why he's so popular.

[HuckleB]

34. So why not just say that in the first place?

Why attack the man personally? It's not like you know him, after all.

[CO Liberal]

35. Because

Calling him a "worthless piece of shit" is more descriptive of my complete and total dislike for the guy.

Let's just drop it right here, OK? I don't want to spend any more of my time even THINKING about that asshole.

[HuckleB]

36. OK.

But, remember, you brought him up in the first place. And, sorry, I still don't see the purpose in making such "vehement" statements about a mere actor/comedian.

Bye.

[abelenkpe]

15. I wonder

how Jack's good buddy Magic Johnson feels about that statement? I gotta say I wasd pretty shocked to hear such a statement from Nicholson. I had deluded myself into thinking maybe he wasn't the slimeball he so adeptly plays. And, for a bit of evil gossip.... Laura Flynn Boyle is disgusting up close. I was standing next to her while waiting for a screening on the Warners lot a few years back and I swear the girl must apply her makeup with a spatula. She had so much foundation caked on her she looked like she stepped right out of the middle ages. So unnatural. Oh well.

[RobinA]

17. Magic Johnson

Magic Johnson would probably agree with Nicholson's statement.

[ArkDem]

37. They wore makeup in the middle ages?

.

[abelenkpe]

43. the rich wore makeup

They would cake it on, too. It was unpopular to bathe so many women would have layers of cream and powder on their faces. I've been reading lately about courtesans in Italy, juicy stuff! Makeup has been around for a long long time. Ancient Romans, Greeks, Egyptians all wore makeup. Persians and Phoencians, too including one unlucky lady named Jezebel, whose biggest crime seems to be applying some makeup. Now I don't have anything against makeup in general. (Being a big fan of strawberry lip gloss.) Just feel it should enhance what one naturally has, not serve as a mask. If you wanna cover your whole face, why not wear a burqua? But to each his own. Some people like that stuff. My taste favors natural beauty.

Nicholson is still an insensitve fool for saying what he did about aids.

[Xithras]

21. Waitaminit.

I don't like Nicholson anyway (lousy actor IMHO) but lets look at the WHOLE quote:

Movie lothario Jack Nicholson has hit out at the AIDS 'hysteria' of the 1980s, claiming the threat of the killer disease was vastly exaggerated. The famed womanizer insists the reports surrounding the first known cases of the deadly disease didn't stop him enjoying sex - but regrets the damaging affect it had on popular culture. Ranking the hysteria "right up there with the atomic bomb as events that impacted our culture for the worse", he writes in the 50th anniversary edition of Playboy magazine, "We were moving to a freer society before AIDS. "Most people who investigated this knew that if you were not shooting up or getting f***ed in the heinie, you were as likely to get AIDS as you were to have a safe fall on your head while walking down Wilshire Boulevard. But you could not proselytize this view. The facts were almost useless. You couldn't give a woman the facts and have her respond, 'Oh, all right.'"

Have we already forgotten about Ryan White and all of the other innocents who were caught up in this? Have we forgotten about clubs shutting down because people were afraid to sweat together on a dance floor (much less screw each other afterward)? Have we forgotten about the paranoia that AIDS could be transmitted on toilet seats? There was an unfounded AIDS hysteria in America in the early 80's, and Nicholson is actually fairly accurate (if somewhat crass) in his description of it. We were all paralyzed with fear of a disease that AT THAT TIME really only existed in the gay and drug communities. Could you get the disease if you weren't part of those communities? Sure, but as Nicholson said: "you were as likely to get AIDS as you were to have a safe fall on your head while walking down Wilshire Boulevard". It could happen, and it DID happen, but it was pretty unlikely. Of course, CONVINCING people of that back then was nearly impossible...there were people who actually believed that AIDS was everywhere and that it signalled the end of humanity (it certainly signalled the end of the free love era).

So what exactly did he say that pissed you off?

[soleft]

22. Maybe it's my concern for people getting f*cked in the heiny

and other at risk groups.

[Xithras]

24. But that's not the point of what he said

Nicholson was making the point that, for the people who WERE NOT in those risk groups, the risk was seriously exaggeratted and overblown at the time, bordering on outright paranoia in many areas. He's not taking a shot at those groups (and just to be clear, I'm in one myself) or trivializing the disease, he's just making a very factual point that MANY people tried to make at the time, but which was lost in the hype: That the odds of actually getting AIDS outside of the gay community was infinitesimally small at that time.

Today, things have changed. AIDS has crossed the margins and now infects clean hetero's the same as any other population group. In the early 80's though, it was pure, ungrounded fear based on a lack of understanding about the disease.

[soleft]

25. Clean hetero's?

[Xithras]

33. ?

Sorry if that wasn't clear. "Clean hetero's" meant one who is not bi or gay, and who doesn't use drugs. It was a reference to the days when AIDS was seen as a gay disease, or a druggie disease. Now it's an "everyone" disease. The term "risk group" in relation to AIDS no longer exists...you can get it if you're gay, straight, drug using, or clean. Only abstinent people who live their lives in utter isolation are 100% immune to AIDS now.

[soleft]

38. actually a friend of mine who is abstinent is at risk

because she is a physician's assistant at a clinic for infectious diseases. I'm sure there are probably a lot of abstinent health care workers who are at risk.

[LynneSin]

40. And never forget

It's just not who you sleep with - but who your partner has slept with. Maybe I'm a hetero sleeping with another hetero, but what's the history of my partner's or the history of who he/she has slept with.

As my grandmother would always say 'Better to be safe than sorry'. (of course she meant for things in general)

[geniph]

41. While I actually do agree with your point

that he didn't say anything all that bad, just phrased it badly, I do need to point out that anal sex is by no means exclusive to homosexuals, and that many, MANY homosexuals don't engage in it.

Damn few sex acts are orientation-specific.