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Serial Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:30 AM
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Hand over heart question
Just in past few years, I have noticed that people put their hand over their heart while singing the national anthem. I saw dubya and pickles (yuck) doing it yesterday while standing with the queen. It looks ridiculous!

From what I remember while growing up (I have hit the half century mark), we did that only when we said the Pledge of Allegiance, never when singing the anthem.

When did this start? I don't do it (like at baseball games and such) - am I wrong?

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SCDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:37 AM
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1. I have thought of the same thing
It was always your arms down and hands together either in front or in back of you (I forgot which). At least this is what I remember growing up.
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:37 AM
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2. NO
It is traditionally used for only the Pledge. I guess people do it because they want to display in thier own special way their alleigance to this nation. Now, you don't have to do it to show your patriotism. I think it is just an added gesture.
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:42 AM
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4. When I was a young boy ...
playing baseball, I remember that we would take off out hats, and put them over our hearts during the anthem. Our coach (one in patricular) made sure that we knew how important it was to be at our best behavior (respectful during the anthem).

This had an impact on me.

Cheers
Drifter
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Serial Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:45 AM
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6. I remember that for boys/men with caps/hats
especially athletes, but I don't ever remember somebody without a hat holding their hand over their heart.

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BelleCarolinaPeridot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:39 AM
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3. Noticed the same within the last couple of years
Edited on Wed Nov-19-03 10:42 AM by CarolinaPeridot
Although I have always noticed that it was more veterans who put their hand over their heart and sung than non-veterans .
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Nadienne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:43 AM
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5. I have also noticed this
And agree that it must be optional. I don't see everyone doing it. For the chimp, it's probably as sincere as anything else he says and does in public.
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hussar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:48 AM
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7. They looked like someone from a different planet
or Star Trek to me
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Jokerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:53 AM
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8. Always taught to put my hand over my heart for the anthem.
If I was wearing a hat I was supposed remove it and hold the hat over my heart. This came from my mom, a god-fearing, patriotic, liberal to the end.

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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:54 AM
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9. I always put my hand over my heart for the anthem
and I sing along too.

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Superfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:56 AM
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10. When in uniform, salute
when not in uniform, hand over the heart (removing hats).

One thing I cannot stand and drives me bonkers is when people do not remove their hats for the anthem.

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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:57 AM
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11. It makes a better photo-op
n/t
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 11:21 AM
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12. check out the next kid the freepers will be crediting to Daschle
or calling one of us.

From the Akron Beacon Journal photo pages:



Of course, it would have to be the one at the front and center.

If this kid turns out to be a freeper's kid - BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 11:39 AM
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13. No, for once, the "(general)Dynamic(s) Duo" are correct.
Men, remove your hat and either drop it or hold it over your heart (That includes that backwards "crips" cap you spent 20 minutes futzing wioth B4 you went out!). Ladies, keep your hat on, just hold your hand over your heart. People in uniform, render a military salute.

And you face the flag while the Anthem is played. singing is optional.
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:11 PM
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14. I didn't look it up
but there is a protocol office that determines these things. They do change from time to time. I was taught to place my hand over my heart for both the anthem and the pledge.

Footnote: once upon a time, Shirley Temple Black was the chief of protocol.
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ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 01:04 AM
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15. I always thought
(although I have nothing to back it up)

that your hand should be over your heart only if there is a flag present. I was under the impression that it was somewhat of a 'civilian salute' while saying the POA or singing the National Anthem.

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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:05 AM
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16. There should always be a flag present when playing
the National Anthem.
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