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american_punk Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 02:48 PM
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Rage Against the Machine
Ok, one of the best bands ever is Rage Against the Machine. Their no-nonsense music combined with leftist politics made them one of the best band of the 90's. What do you think about them?


p.s. Mods, can we PLEASE get some Rage avatars. You got audioslave, but no Rage.:wtf: is up wit dat?
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 02:51 PM
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1. They did some really good stuff....
I like morello's guitar playing, even if it's mostly effects driven and when it's not it's little more than garden variety classic rock riffs.

The rythm section is/was great.

Zach was an adequate rapper, but nothing more.

Overall I like what they brought to the tableand into the public consciousness and they are sorely missed in a sea of meathead rock and self pitying whiners. I disagree with some (not all) of their politics but that's a minor point.
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Red_Storm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:01 PM
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2.  I have the same feelings,,,,,,

About Zach.....decent flow but .......he was also a good songwriter and I don't think he ever received enough credit for that.........
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Frangible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:08 PM
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8. What Zach lacked in lyrical talent
He more than compensated for with his lyrics and message.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:02 PM
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3. the new dvd should
really be great,i think it`s their last concert and alot of extras..i`ll agree with the best political band of the 90`s.
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Red_Storm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:11 PM
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9. can't wait to have to have both...........

the CD will be released on November 25th and the DVD will be released on December 9th ............
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mrgorth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:04 PM
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4. Love RATM
These guys sound noting like them but you may want to check out http://www.painofsalvation.com. Definitely left leaning. Similar in sound to Queensryche.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:05 PM
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5. great band...shitty lead singer
Audioslave is a much better overall band because I can actaully understand what Chris Cornell is singing.

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Red_Storm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:12 PM
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10. I don't think it was ever established that...........

Zach was a "singer"........he wore his hip hop influences heavily on his sleeve..........
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:14 PM
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12. singer, rapper, whatever
He was the front guy. And he had a terrible voice and I couldn't make out a damn thing he was saying. Which sucked, because I know his lyrics were good.
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Red_Storm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:16 PM
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14. as far as Chris Cornell................

I feel the same way about Audioslave as I did with Soundgarden......love the music, can't stand the sound of Cornell's voice.........
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:21 PM
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17. you have to admit it's better than the RATM guy
I mean. At least Cornell can scream in a harmonic tone. :D
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Red_Storm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:28 PM
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18. I don't think so ............

don't want to be argumentative.......i'm just not a Cornell fan, never have, never will be.........
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Misinformed01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:06 PM
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6. I don't know that much about RATM
But, I can promise you that my husband will hit this thread within 30 minutes.

Hi babe!

You are the World's Cutest Husband!
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jono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:07 PM
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7. american_punk
Please re-post your P.S. in the Ask the Administrators forum if you'd like to request an avatar.
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ZenLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:12 PM
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11. I write messages on money.
I write messages on money.

It's my own form of social protest.

BURN ME

A letter printed on paper that no one will destroy

I AM YOUR FATHER

passed indiscriminately across race, class and gender lines
and written in the blood that keeps the beast alive.

A quiet little hijacking
on the way to the check-out counter.

And a federal crime.

I hope that someone will find my message one day when they really need it.

Like I do.

YOU ARE NOT A SLAVE

-from the RENEGADES album, and one of my favorite things to read from time to time.
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TexasMexican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:15 PM
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13. They once raged for the machine...
now they are slaves to its audio.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:16 PM
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15. RATM
F*ck no I won't do what you tell me!

Music for the revolution.
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Red_Storm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:20 PM
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16. I have an MP3 ..........

Of Rage performing Allen Ginsberg's poem "Hadda Be Playin On The Jukebox" in concert....it is one of the most intense and powerful performances I have ever heard in my life......I listen to it every so often.....amazing stuff........
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:31 PM
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19. Rage was the shit
nuff said.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:41 PM
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20. Dean should use Fight the Power when he visits college campuses
I love RATM! From their name to the music, they are one of the best bands of the last 20 years.
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american_punk Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:19 PM
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22. here's one better
noce choice, but i think Dean's campaign song should be "Take the Power Back"
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leftist_rebel1569 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:42 PM
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21. RATM = BEST BAND EVER!
Edited on Wed Nov-19-03 03:43 PM by leftist_rebel1569
PERIOD! :D

edit: We do need some RATM Avatars...maybe the cover of the self-titled album and the cover for "Renegades"?
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